Cornell in Pairwise and KRACH

[Josh '99]

[quote Germ]I think the ECAC will be lucky if it gets three teams in.  I don't see a scenario where we'll get more than that.[/quote]Realistically speaking you're right and three would be a pretty good outcome all in all, but it's still fun to try to come up with scenarios yielding unlikely and amusing results.

[jtwcornell91]

[quote Josh '99][quote Germ]I think the ECAC will be lucky if it gets three teams in.  I don't see a scenario where we'll get more than that.[/quote]Realistically speaking you're right and three would be a pretty good outcome all in all, but it's still fun to try to come up with scenarios yielding unlikely and amusing results.[/quote]

If things break right, Air Force could be in line for an at-large bid.

[nyc94]

[quote Germ]I think SLU has to run the table or they're toast.[/quote]

I would have agreed until I started playing around with possibilities.  Assuming the top four seeds advance, if St. Lawrence can't win the tournament the best scenario for them is to beat Princeton in the consolation game.  It flips the comparison with Princeton and they swap places in the PWR.  Princeton becomes the bubble team.  There's one catch:  Princeton needs to lose a game to Union this weekend while St. Lawrence needs to sweep.

Beating Cornell in the consolation game doesn't help because they can't flip that comparison on their own.  St. Lawrence and Princeton have similar RPI so if they play again the winner takes RPI (currently in Princeton's favor) as well as Head to Head (currently tied 1-1).

[Jim Hyla]

[quote nyc94]
Beating Cornell in the consolation game doesn't help... [/quote]You said that right.

[nyc94]

[quote jtwcornell91][quote Josh '99]JTW, is your playoff script almost done?[/quote]

It should be ready to roll as soon as the quarterfinals (and the WZHA quintafinals) are done.[/quote]

If you can't wait until then you can plug in your own predictions:
http://www.slack.net/~whelan/tbrw/2009/rankings.diy.shtml

Make sure you check the button for "Specify Results".  Paste in today's games (listed below) beneath the scores for the games already played and change the score to reflect your picks.  I just made this list very quickly so I apologize if there are any errors.

20090313 NM 0 Mm 0 NC
20090313 NO 0 Nt 0 NC
20090313 OS 0 Ak 0 NC
20090313 WM 0 Mi 0 NC
20090313 Qn 0 SL 0 NC
20090313 Un 0 Pn 0 NC
20090313 RP 0 Cr 0 NC
20090313 Bn 0 Ya 0 NC
20090313 BC 0 NH 0 NC
20090313 MA 0 NE 0 NC
20090313 ML 0 Vt 0 NC
20090313 Me 0 BU 0 NC
20090313 Ar 0 Mh 0 NC
20090313 SH 0 AF 0 NC
20090313 Ca 0 By 0 NC
20090313 HC 0 RT 0 NC
20090313 Mk 0 Wi 0 NC
20090313 SC 0 Mn 0 NC
20090313 AA 0 DU 0 NC
20090313 MT 0 ND 0 NC
20090313 MD 0 CC 0 NC
20090313 RM 2 Ni 1 NC
20090313 AH 0 BS 0 NC

The entire schedule is the same for Saturday with the exception of the last two games on the above list which are the CHA semifinals (Robert Morris has already defeated Niagara today - thus dropping Cornell one spot to 11).  Rearrange the teams to get Saturday's consolation and championship games.  Add games for Sunday if you think a series is going three games.

[ebilmes]

Down to 12 in pairwise.

Not going to NCAAs if we don't win this series.

[DisplacedCornellian]

[quote ebilmes]Down to 12 in pairwise.

Not going to NCAAs if we don't win this series.[/quote]

Don't deserve to go to NCAAs if they lose this series.

[nyc94]

[quote lynah80]It would be helpful if either UMass or Union moved into the top 25.[/quote]

UMass beat Northeastern 2-1 last night.  A win tonight would make them 25 in the PWR.  Cornell would pick up the comparison with Northeastern but not move up in the standings (currently 12).  And despite the fact that another UMass win would knock Alaska-Anchorage out the top 25 (as would another Denver win), Minnesota stays on Cornell's heels as they would also pick up the comparison with Northeastern.  Minnesota picked up the comparison with Ohio State last night because Alaska-Fairbanks beat Ohio State last night.

[lynah80]

[quote nyc94][quote lynah80]It would be helpful if either UMass or Union moved into the top 25.[/quote]

UMass beat Northeastern 2-1 last night.  A win tonight would make them 25 in the PWR.  Cornell would pick up the comparison with Northeastern but not move up in the standings (currently 12).  And despite the fact that another UMass win would knock Alaska-Anchorage out the top 25 (as would another Denver win), Minnesota stays on Cornell's heels as they would also pick up the comparison with Northeastern.  Minnesota picked up the comparison with Ohio State last night because Alaska-Fairbanks beat Ohio State last night.[/quote]

Cornell really needs a W tonight and tomorrow!

[abmarks]

Umass about to lose tonight.. down 3-1 5 minutes left

[Rita]

Maine beats BU 6-3. Game 3 tomorrow.

NU scores on the PP to go up 3-1 with about 4 minutes left, thus it looks like a game 3 for that series too.

Goofers up 2-0 on SCSU, 13 minutes left in the 3rd.

[lynah80]

[quote Rita]Maine beats BU 6-3. Game 3 tomorrow.

NU scores on the PP to go up 3-1 with about 4 minutes left, thus it looks like a game 3 for that series too.[/quote]

The sweeps by BC (over UNH) and Mass-Lowell (Vermont) will help Cornell a lot.  

For Vermont, Cornell needs a TUC > 0.452 and an rpi > 0.551.  They can do that in Albany.  (Vermont wins out in COP)

For UNH, Cornell can pull ahead in COP with another win over Rennselaer.  They should also come out ahead in TUC and rpi with even one win in Albany (let's hope for 2).  

Miami lost tonight, so they will play N. Michigan again tomorrow.  Cornell has the edge in COP, but Miami has TUC and a very slight edge in rpi.  Let's hope for the best.  

I think winning the ECAC is priority #1 for Cornell, but things look encouraging for a #2 seed in the tournament as well.

[jkahn]

[quote lynah80]
The sweeps by BC (over UNH) and Mass-Lowell (Vermont) will help Cornell a lot.  

For Vermont, Cornell needs a TUC > 0.452 and an rpi > 0.551.  They can do that in Albany.  (Vermont wins out in COP)

For UNH, Cornell can pull ahead in COP with another win over Rennselaer.  They should also come out ahead in TUC and rpi with even one win in Albany (let's hope for 2).  

Miami lost tonight, so they will play N. Michigan again tomorrow.  Cornell has the edge in COP, but Miami has TUC and a very slight edge in rpi.  Let's hope for the best.  

I think winning the ECAC is priority #1 for Cornell, but things look encouraging for a #2 seed in the tournament as well.[/quote]

On the other hand, the UML and BC wins make it more likely that the Hockey East tournament and autobid will go to a team current below us in PWR. If we win out in the ECAC tournament, then it's all good, but if we go 0-1 or 1-2 these results are a big negative.  Similarly, there are several teams in the WCHA currently below us who could pass us with an autobid, and might pass us anyway if they win out and we don't.

[lynah80]

[quote jkahn][quote lynah80]
The sweeps by BC (over UNH) and Mass-Lowell (Vermont) will help Cornell a lot.  

For Vermont, Cornell needs a TUC > 0.452 and an rpi > 0.551.  They can do that in Albany.  (Vermont wins out in COP)

For UNH, Cornell can pull ahead in COP with another win over Rennselaer.  They should also come out ahead in TUC and rpi with even one win in Albany (let's hope for 2).  

Miami lost tonight, so they will play N. Michigan again tomorrow.  Cornell has the edge in COP, but Miami has TUC and a very slight edge in rpi.  Let's hope for the best.  

I think winning the ECAC is priority #1 for Cornell, but things look encouraging for a #2 seed in the tournament as well.[/quote]

On the other hand, the UML and BC wins make it more likely that the Hockey East tournament and autobid will go to a team current below us in PWR. If we win out in the ECAC tournament, then it's all good, but if we go 0-1 or 1-2 these results are a big negative.  Similarly, there are several teams in the WCHA currently below us who could pass us with an autobid, and might pass us anyway if they win out and we don't.[/quote]

For Hockey East, I think it's very likely that either Northeastern or BU will win the playoffs.  I guess we will see how things go tomorrow.

[Rita]

BU defeats Maine 6-2.

Princeton 3 v. Union 1 is now final.