Cornell in Pairwise and KRACH

nyc94 · March 15, 2009, 10:00:13 PM

Miami might have just played itself out of the tournament by losing to Northern Michigan. They drop to 15 and give a bump to teams on the bubble.

Rita · March 15, 2009, 10:25:40 PM

Canisus 2 @ Bentley 4

Umass 2 @ Northeastern 3 in OT.

I'm not sure what PWR implications Ohio State @ Alaska-Fairbanks have, but I think you can listen on-line from

http://ksua.uaf.edu

Game starts at 11:30 pm EDT. :-}

Ok, if I interpreted CHN's grid correctly, with respect to OSU, we are tied with the comparisons (1-1) and ranked ahead of them (10 v. 12t). With AK, we have the comparisons 1-0, and AK is ranked 25.

So, we would like Alaska to win, correct? ::help::

nyc94 · March 15, 2009, 10:35:36 PM

New Hampshire, Cornell, Princeton, and Minnesota are currently the projected #3 seeds. With New Hampshire and Minnesota locked in as regional hosts that would mean either Cornell or Princeton would be sent to Bridgeport to face Yale (currently a #2) in the first round.

David Harding · March 15, 2009, 10:47:53 PM

[quote nyc94]New Hampshire, Cornell, Princeton, and Minnesota are currently the projected #3 seeds. With New Hampshire and Minnesota locked in as regional hosts that would mean either Cornell or Princeton would be sent to Bridgeport to face Yale (currently a #2) in the first round.[/quote]But avoiding first round match-ups between teams from the same conference is supposed to be a high priority.

nyc94 · March 15, 2009, 10:50:10 PM

[quote David Harding][quote nyc94]New Hampshire, Cornell, Princeton, and Minnesota are currently the projected #3 seeds. With New Hampshire and Minnesota locked in as regional hosts that would mean either Cornell or Princeton would be sent to Bridgeport to face Yale (currently a #2) in the first round.[/quote]But avoiding first round match-ups between teams from the same conference is supposed to be a high priority.[/quote]

I thought seed or "band" integrity came first.

KeithK · March 15, 2009, 11:16:06 PM

[quote nyc94][quote David Harding][quote nyc94]New Hampshire, Cornell, Princeton, and Minnesota are currently the projected #3 seeds. With New Hampshire and Minnesota locked in as regional hosts that would mean either Cornell or Princeton would be sent to Bridgeport to face Yale (currently a #2) in the first round.[/quote]But avoiding first round match-ups between teams from the same conference is supposed to be a high priority.[/quote]

I thought seed or "band" integrity came first.[/quote]
I'd be very surprised if they kept a Yale/Princeton or Yale/Cornell matchup in the first round. If things were to stay the way they are you might see Yale moved to either Minnesota or New Hampshire, thus avoiding the issue.

Anyway, there's still too much hockey left for me to worry about how the brackets will work out. It's very unlikely the rankings will look exactly like this next Sunday. Just get me in the top 14 (or 13, 12, whatever).

Beeeej · March 15, 2009, 11:18:25 PM

[quote KeithK]I'd be very surprised if they kept a Yale/Princeton or Yale/Cornell matchup in the first round. If things were to stay the way they are you might see Yale moved to either Minnesota or New Hampshire, thus avoiding the issue.[/quote]

Yale's a host at Bridgeport. They're not going anywhere but Bridgeport.

Swampy · March 15, 2009, 11:18:43 PM

[quote KeithK][quote nyc94][quote David Harding][quote nyc94]New Hampshire, Cornell, Princeton, and Minnesota are currently the projected #3 seeds. With New Hampshire and Minnesota locked in as regional hosts that would mean either Cornell or Princeton would be sent to Bridgeport to face Yale (currently a #2) in the first round.[/quote]But avoiding first round match-ups between teams from the same conference is supposed to be a high priority.[/quote]

I thought seed or "band" integrity came first.[/quote]
I'd be very surprised if they kept a Yale/Princeton or Yale/Cornell matchup in the first round. If things were to stay the way they are you might see Yale moved to either Minnesota or New Hampshire, thus avoiding the issue.

Anyway, there's still too much hockey left for me to worry about how the brackets will work out. It's very unlikely the rankings will look exactly like this next Sunday. Just get me in the top 14 (or 13, 12, whatever).[/quote]

I thought Yale has to play at Bridgeport if they're in the tourney at all.

KeithK · March 15, 2009, 11:33:46 PM

[quote Beeeej][quote KeithK]I'd be very surprised if they kept a Yale/Princeton or Yale/Cornell matchup in the first round. If things were to stay the way they are you might see Yale moved to either Minnesota or New Hampshire, thus avoiding the issue.[/quote]

Yale's a host at Bridgeport. They're not going anywhere but Bridgeport.[/quote]
OK, forgot that. I still think they would scrap bracket integrity to avoid first round matchups.

Rita · March 16, 2009, 12:19:30 AM

Alaska 1 v. OSU 0. final.

the Nanooks scored with about 56 seconds left in the 3rd period.

They will play Michigan in the CCHA semis.

lynah80 · March 16, 2009, 12:27:18 AM

[quote Rita]Alaska 1 v. OSU 0. final.

the Nanooks scored with about 56 seconds left in the 3rd period.

They will play Michigan in the CCHA semis.[/quote]

I read it was a very strange looking goal.

That moves Miami to 14t with SLU, and OSU down to 16. BC is now 17, but with only 7 PW comparisons won, vs. 11 for SLU.

Josh '99 · March 16, 2009, 12:33:11 AM

We could have a great crowd in Bridgeport. For students, one of the closest possible regional venues to Ithaca (further than Albany or Rochester, sure, but still not very far). For alumni, there are a zillion of us in NYC. I think Cornell would have a better shot as a 4 there against, say, BU, than as a 3 in Minnesota in a rubber game against the Sioux.

lynah80 · March 16, 2009, 12:53:59 AM

Cornell looks like a #3 seed. It will be difficult for them to become a #2. If they win the conference, they will win their comparison with UNH, but possibly not with Vermont. Neither of those two will be playing next weekend.

Edit: Using the Pairwise predictor at CHN, I found a number of scenarios where Cornell could be a #2 seed. They require Cornell to win twice in Albany and N. Dakota to lose in the WCHA semifinal. ~~However, the predictor does not include consolation games.~~ It's here:

http://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/yatc.php

Flyers1037 pointed out that the consolation games show up after the first set of winners is entered.

grizzdan24 · March 16, 2009, 01:19:14 AM

Sportscenter thinks that Cornell is in saying: "Cornell hockey should also make the NCAA Hockey Tournament" after talking about the Men's Bball seeding.

KeithK · March 16, 2009, 01:45:42 AM

I haven't tried working a lot of combinations but I would bet that it's in our best interest for the top seeds in the CCHA, WCHA and HEA to advance next Friday. That is, Michigan, both ND's, Denver, BU and Northeastern. That would ensure no AQ's from lower ranked teams, thus maximizing the likelihood of us getting a bid if we don't win the title in Albany.