Dartmouth player arrested

[ithacat]

Ouch...how to make a bad decision worse:

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S466618.shtml?cat=7

[Josh '99]

[quote ithacat]Ouch...how to make a bad decision worse:

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S466618.shtml?cat=7[/quote]Breaking into a house and then leading the police on a chase IS a good way to compound the bad decision to go to Dartmouth.

[Trotsky]

As the police blotter in my town often says, "alcohol was presumed involved."

[Dpperk29]

[quote Trotsky]As the police blotter in my town often says, "alcohol was presumed involved."[/quote]

I am not going to pretend to be a grammar expert but either you (or your town's paper) left some words out of that quote or you are from Alabama (or the north country)

[CM cWo 44]

ESTO-______ !

[Trotsky]

[quote Dpperk29][quote Trotsky]As the police blotter in my town often says, "alcohol was presumed involved."[/quote]

I am not going to pretend to be a grammar expert but either you (or your town's paper) left some words out of that quote or you are from Alabama (or the north country)[/quote]I may have lived next to WV for too long, but it looks okay to me.

[KenP]

[quote Trotsky][quote Dpperk29][quote Trotsky]As the police blotter in my town often says, "alcohol was presumed involved."[/quote]

I am not going to pretend to be a grammar expert but either you (or your town's paper) left some words out of that quote or you are from Alabama (or the north country)[/quote]I may have lived next to WV for too long, but it looks okay to me.[/quote]
Alcohol was presumed to be involved.
Alcohol was presumably involved.
Presumably, alcohol was involved.
A presumtion can be made by those reading this sentence on the involvement of alcohol in the incident hitherto discussed.

[Robb]

[quote Trotsky][quote Dpperk29][quote Trotsky]As the police blotter in my town often says, "alcohol was presumed involved."[/quote]

I am not going to pretend to be a grammar expert but either you (or your town's paper) left some words out of that quote or you are from Alabama (or the north country)[/quote]I may have lived next to WV for too long, but it looks okay to me.[/quote]

Me, too.  To write it out, the sentence would read, "Alcohol was presumed (to have been) involved."  Trotsky simply eliminated the past perfect form of the  verb "is" from the sentence.  If that doesn't work for you, try "The Dartmouth player's shirt was presumed green."  Stylistically it's perhaps a little archaic or poetic, but (in my opinion) it's grammatically okay, I think.

[French Rage]

God I hate the offseason.

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

Well the only example I can think of that fits the "presumed involved" form is "presumed innocent until proven guilty."

In every other context I can think of, people generally do not exclude the "to be."

[ugarte]

[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]Well the only example I can think of that fits the "presumed involved" form is "presumed innocent until proven guilty."

In every other context I can think of, people generally do not exclude the "to be."[/quote]
For whatever reason, the phrase "missing and presumed dead" popped into my head. And not only mine.

[RichH]

[quote Jeff Hopkins '82]Well the only example I can think of that fits the "presumed involved" form is "presumed innocent until proven guilty."

In every other context I can think of, people generally do not exclude the "to be."[/quote]

Unless your a Pittsburgh native, and "The lawn needs mowed" sounds right to yinz.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2007/11/11/lawn_needs_cut/

[ftyuv]

We might also remember that this was in a police blotter, not an English class.  Police blotters, like newspaper headlines and tech specs, often skimp on words.

Them fail English?  That's unpossible.

[Give My Regards]

His MOM turned him in.  He is presumed not the favorite son.

[KeithK]

[quote Give My Regards]His MOM turned him in.  He is presumed not the favorite son.[/quote]
Or maybe Mom had the sense to realize that if he turned himself in he might get away with a couple years of probation and not time in prison.  They've got him on pretty serious charges if they choose to throw the book at him.