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#1
Quote from: ugarte on August 26, 2026, 03:19:52 PM
Quote from: stereax on August 26, 2026, 02:28:00 PM@adamw on the ASU player:

What I'm learning ... preseason team workouts that use 3rd parties, often run by ex-Navy Seals, have become very common across the NCAA, across all sports. They use them as team bonding exercises. There's dozens of companies that do this.
This is how Tiger Woods apparently injured his knees and back (running in army boots) and the Pirates had spring training exercises run by a Navy SEAL that got Gregory Polanco injured. Everything is gender.

For a while, Tiger's ex wife Ellen was dating Douglas Murray.
#2
Hockey / Re: Recruits 2026 and Beyond
August 25, 2026, 10:49:25 AM
Quote from: ursusminor on August 25, 2026, 05:12:33 AMFree Neutral Zone post including short evaluations of the Collins twins.

https://neutralzone.com/2026/08/24/ncaa-commitments-august-17-august-23/

Seems like a lot of up-side to both of them, especially if they can pack on 20 lbs in the gym.
#3
Hockey / Re: Recruits 2026 and Beyond
August 24, 2026, 12:18:16 PM
11 and 01 should be allowable goalie numbers, in the case of 1 being retired or used. This includes 31, 41, 51, etc. I will not be taking any questions at this time.
#4
Hockey / Re: Recruits 2026 and Beyond
August 20, 2026, 02:35:05 PM
We just like twins around here.
#5
Quote from: stereax on August 20, 2026, 01:56:47 PM
Quote from: BearLover on August 20, 2026, 01:16:28 PMEven within the Ivies most hockey players aren't serious students.
I think it depends on the Ivy - like, most of our guys end up with 3.0+ GPA. I think Marty brought up that Dartmouth players also are very invested in academics - though historically Dartmouth has also been a terrible hockey school. You usually need to be at least somewhat academically inclined to succeed at an Ivy.

On the other hand, if you listen to the blue chip prospects at BC/BU/PSU who are taking theater design (Leonard/Smith/Perreault line), ceramics (Hagens), fly fishing (McKenna), or classes where you're apparently simulating preschool math education with peers your age (Cole Hutson brought this one up on a podcast recently, that they were basically "playing blocks"), it's different. Blue chip prospects see it as a step in their NHL dreams, not as much a degree. (Though I think Hutson also mentioned doing summer classes to be able to finish his degree, so, you go Glen Coco.)

CHL guys - especially those that came up in the CHL before the transfer stuff opened, ESPECIALLY the better players - are often going to think of college ONLY as a step in furthering their hockey careers. USHL guys - especially those that aren't star players, especially those going to schools like the Ivies that have good reputation scholastically - may very well consider the hockey as more a way to get a scholarship than a true future career path.

Cournoyer was a bit of an outlier in terms of the kinds of guys we usually get - very late commit and one that very specifically filled a dire need on the roster (starting goalie). I suspect Casey and company will learn a valuable lesson with that one. (And I hope Rousseau kicks ass.)


Re: USHL players- yeah until very recently they have all had to keep themselves academically eligible, or at least take academics seriously to the point of being accepted, whereas CHL players grades didn't matter at all (at least for a US college, no idea what Canadian standards are) now that has flipped a little, and some USHL or BCHL players can freely join their CHL draft teams (see the USNDP) ad then go to school, if motivated to do so.
#6
Hockey / Re: Recruits 2026 and Beyond
August 20, 2026, 02:24:29 PM
Quote from: stereax on August 20, 2026, 01:46:17 PMCornell receives commitments from twin brothers Peyton and Ben Collins!

Peyton Collins - Forward
74 points in 64 GP last season for @JrPredators (U16)

Benjamin Collins - Forward
58 points in 49 GP last season for @JrPredators (U16)

The Tennessee natives are both are expected to play 2026-27 season for @OHLSteelheads.


I'm excited already!

Hell yeah! It's about time.
#7
Quote from: marty on August 20, 2026, 12:14:47 PM
Quote from: The Rancor on August 20, 2026, 09:05:15 AMBummer for RPI.
But, this illustrates that many of these CHL guys aren't interested in college. If there's a fat bag for them or for whatever reason their 'advisors' tell them to go here, go there, but we are going to see a lot of de-commits as money gets funneled back north to Major Junior.
Factors like being able to pay his home town squad are hard to beat too, with their 7,000 seat arena and state of the art (and bigger) locker rooms etc. (edit RPI does offer athletic scholarships - I was thinking Union my bad, Ursus)

How the hell could anyone consider RPI if they are not interested in college (or Institute)? They were known for giving D's and F's last i read.

Are the days of "Tute, love it or leave it." just a memory?


I don't think they are considering the fact that studying and grades are important there. The agents, or players, want to go to college because it's now the next step to the NHL. A school like RPI needs recruits, but, perhaps they didn't fully grasp what the true expectations were. There's a sign on the locker room wall at RPI that clearly states their team and individual goals and responsibilities- 3.2 GPA is one of them, and I'm sure they mean it.
#8
Bummer for RPI.
But, this illustrates that many of these CHL guys aren't interested in college. If there's a fat bag for them or for whatever reason their 'advisors' tell them to go here, go there, but we are going to see a lot of de-commits as money gets funneled back north to Major Junior.
Factors like being able to pay his home town squad are hard to beat too, with their 7,000 seat arena and state of the art (and bigger) locker rooms etc. (edit RPI does offer athletic scholarships - I was thinking Union my bad, Ursus)
#9
Hockey / Re: Recruits 2026 and Beyond
August 16, 2026, 05:15:34 PM
Quote from: stereax on August 16, 2026, 02:26:34 PM
Quote from: chimpfood on August 15, 2026, 02:24:31 PMI don't trust these rankings at all tbh. Wouldn't be surprised if Arend can't even crack the lineup with everyone healthy.
I mean it's a bullshit ranking by idiots. But it's nice to be respected in the bullshit rankings by idiots.

43 in 52 last season in the USHL 6-1 195, +7, I expect to see him in some games. It is a big class, so ice time will be fought over. With 5 (?) seniors and several sign-able juniors, they want him ready.
#10
Hockey / Re: Recruits 2026 and Beyond
August 16, 2026, 10:28:12 AM
I'm looking at the incoming players, and I am very excited to see them play. This is a special group that is joining 3 more excellent recruiting classes. There is a lot more CHL experience than I registered before. When this team gets to know each other on ice and starts to click, it will be fireworks.
Especially focused on the potential of Cal Hughes, Brad Gardiner and Coco Armstrong- with goaltending from Rousseau and help from 'puck moving defensemen' hopefully translates to keeping the puck in the opposite end.
#11
Hockey / Re: Ceramic Dalmatians, 2026-27
August 15, 2026, 08:45:17 AM
Quote from: Trotsky on August 15, 2026, 02:07:13 AMcollegepucknxt also has a pre-season top 15:

1. Den
2. Mich
3. NDak
4. Mich St
5. UMD
6. Qpc
7. WMU
8. BU
9. Wis
10. UMass
11. Drt
12. UConn
13. Prv
14. Minn
15. BC


Eh. This is just a list of annual contenders and Dartmouth. UConn had a similar record and finished behind us in polling. That is to say, they A. Don't know Jack B. None of this Matters.
#12
Hockey / Re: Coaching staff addition
August 12, 2026, 09:48:59 AM
Quote from: LGR14 on August 12, 2026, 09:28:56 AM
Quote from: stereax on August 12, 2026, 08:25:25 AM
Quote from: Old Red on August 11, 2026, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: stereax on August 11, 2026, 09:06:15 PM
Quote from: BearLover on August 11, 2026, 01:14:12 PMThe lower ranking assistant coaches bounce around constantly. It's not specific to this season nor to Cornell.
Yep, this exactly. And it's not like we lost an coach or staff member who's been with the team for years.

Also possible that they were looking into Kaiser already before Robinson accepted the offer.

I disagree.  The "lesser" coaches are the foundation of the program.  They develop the players and the better their quality, the better the team.  And obviously the better programs will attract better talent at all levels.

Cornell was expecting Robinson to stay because they posted this bio update in early summer, before he left.  It refers to him starting his second year.   https://cornellbigred.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/coaches/josh-robinson/11947

And if you think the goaltending coach is not important consider this:
Dartmouth  -- Associate Head Coach Jason Tapp
Princeton -- Assistant Coach Shane Talarico (former Cornell Directory of Operations)
Michigan -- Assistant Coach Kevin Reiter

Dartmouth has been attracting great goalies. 

I sense that Cornell undervalues goalie coaches.  That may be why we lost Cournoyer to Wisconsin.

We lost Cournoyer to Wisconsin primarily because of $. Pretty sure Adam said about as much.

Goalies are not inherently coachable in the way skaters are. By the time you hit college level, most of the base instincts are already locked in; you're mostly just fine-tuning details in the game at that point. Nobody's learning RVH at Lynah. And, I mean, we haven't had any issue with finding good goalies out of piles of dirt before. A coach who runs the powerplay is one thing. Goalie coaching is glorified voodoo.

And also, nobody joins a college hockey program specifically for an assistant coach/goalie coach/whatever. Those guys move around a fair bit. Occasionally you have guys who move with a head coach move (see: Ryan, Caton), but I can't think of anyone who moved with an assistant.

This is wrong.  Even NHL goalies adjust technique, positioning, enhance their skills, mindset, etc., often as a direct result of their goaltending coach.  I don't see why that wouldn't be a consideration for a junior goaltender considering where to develop for 3-4 years. 

It is a ton of video analysis (ahem) and tweaks, but sometimes major adjustments to positioning, reactions and tons of strength, mobility, conditioning work with the goalies. But, many goalies kinda have their own way of things, so its a lot of head shrinking too. Goalies typically have a coach or guru they have worked with for years, probably mostly in the off season, but I wouldn't be surprised if they were contracted to view video weekly and give tips to them on the side.
#13
Hockey / Re: Coaching staff addition
August 11, 2026, 10:44:39 AM
Seems like he is a defacto goalie coach too, which is great. Welcome to the Big Red!
#14
Quote from: stereax on August 04, 2026, 08:34:10 PMMark Divver:

Providence College freshman goalie Ben Hrebik, who played for OHL Barrie the last two years, recently became academically ineligible because he failed a class

Friars looking to add a goalie before start of season and already have a few targets


Hrebik had been on campus at PC for month of July going to summer school

As I've said before, there are a lot of CHL kids that just aren't college kids. It's totally ok. That's why the balance of NCAA and CHL has worked for so long- and I understand some kids have to major in fly fishing, but I think in time there will be many more academically ineligible or incapable hockey players.
#15
Hockey / Re: Schedule 2026-27
July 31, 2026, 08:59:32 AM
Quote from: stereax on July 30, 2026, 05:41:02 PM
Quote from: Weder on July 30, 2026, 04:13:11 PMFinal piece of the puzzle (well, not counting exhibitions):
vs. Holy Cross on Dec. 8
https://goholycross.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/schedule/2026-27

A Tuesday game? In this economy?

Love a mid week game!