Hobey Hat Trick

[Chris \'03]

Elliott (UW), Carle (DU), and Collins (BC) were the top three vote getters this year.

Carle is probably the favorite, but given that the voting is completed after regionals where Carle was a notable absentee, Elliott may steal it.

It'd be a shame if Elliott won despite his amazing weekend. He missed time with an injury and was decidedly sub-par for a few weeks after coming back. If he's a more worthy goalie than Lenny or McKee who played complete (or near complete) seasons and dominated statistically, it probably means it take a 50 goal season (or something similarly dramatic) from an ECAC forward to bring the award back to the ECAC.

[jtwcornell91]

[quote Chris '03]Elliott (UW), Carle (DU), and Collins (BC) were the top three vote getters this year.

Carle is probably the favorite, but given that the voting is completed after regionals where Carle was a notable absentee, Elliott may steal it.[/quote]

Are you sure about that?  I thought the Hobey voting was done before the NCAAs began.

[jkahn]

[quote jtwcornell91][quote Chris '03]Elliott (UW), Carle (DU), and Collins (BC) were the top three vote getters this year.

Carle is probably the favorite, but given that the voting is completed after regionals where Carle was a notable absentee, Elliott may steal it.[/quote]

Are you sure about that?  I thought the Hobey voting was done before the NCAAs began.[/quote]
Form the Hobey site:
[Q]The award's winner will be determined from among the finalists by the Hobey Baker Selection Committee, a group of coaches, scouts, media and a representative from USA Hockey. Fans also contribute to the final decision through Vote for Hobey's Final Voting phase, which will run through Monday, March 27.[/Q]by finalists, they are referring to the final 10, but it looks like voting closed Monday, unless that's just the fan vote only, as the language is not crystal clear.

[calgARI '07]

Considering the voting is done after the regionals, one has to think that Elliott is a lock to get it.  He was the best college hockey player I saw this year and I saw both Collins and Carle a few a times each.

[Omie]

It would still be a shame considering Elliott's #'s pale in comparison to McKee's last year, you would have to question why McKee wasn't good enough but Elliott is.

[Trotsky]

[quote Omie]It would still be a shame considering Elliott's #'s pale in comparison to McKee's last year, you would have to question why McKee wasn't good enough but Elliott is.[/quote]

Because McKee's challengers were stronger than Elliott's?

[bigred06]

I'm amazed that Chris Collins was chosen over Ryan Potulny who scored 38 goals ( the last time somebody scored 38 goals was i believe in 1997 by Todd White).

[Al DeFlorio]

[quote bigred06]I'm amazed that Chris Collins was chosen over Ryan Potulny who scored 38 goals ( the last time somebody scored 38 goals was i believe in 1997 by Todd White).[/quote]
And Todd didn't win it either.:-/

[Chris \'03]

[quote bigred06]I'm amazed that Chris Collins was chosen over Ryan Potulny who scored 38 goals ( the last time somebody scored 38 goals was i believe in 1997 by Todd White).[/quote]

I think Collins being in the top three is a function of the east/west divide. The west had more finalists (7 to 3), leaving the eastern voters to rally around Collins (and Moore and Travelyan to a lesser degree). The western vote was probably more split among quality candidates.

[jkahn]

[quote bigred06]I'm amazed that Chris Collins was chosen over Ryan Potulny who scored 38 goals ( the last time somebody scored 38 goals was i believe in 1997 by Todd White).[/quote]
Collins is at 1.52 PPG to Potulny's 1.54,and BC only averaged 3.48 goals per game to Minnesota's 4.12, so you can say that Collins did it with less offensive support.  In addition, Collins had 5 SHG's, which I think deserve extra credit, to none for Potulny.  I think a pretty good case can be made for Collins.

[Josh '99]

[quote bigred06]( the last time somebody scored 38 goals was i believe in 1997 by Todd White).[/quote]Ho-bey Cherry-picker
Clap-clap clap-clap-clap

[ugarte]

[quote jmh30][quote bigred06]( the last time somebody scored 38 goals was i believe in 1997 by Todd White).[/quote]Ho-bey Cherry-picker
Clap-clap clap-clap-clap[/quote]Wait for it... wait for it...

[RatushnyFan]

[quote Al DeFlorio][quote bigred06]I'm amazed that Chris Collins was chosen over Ryan Potulny who scored 38 goals ( the last time somebody scored 38 goals was i believe in 1997 by Todd White).[/quote]
And Todd didn't win it either.:-/[/quote]And he didn't deserve to, either.

[RatushnyFan]

[quote bigred06]I'm amazed that Chris Collins was chosen over Ryan Potulny who scored 38 goals ( the last time somebody scored 38 goals was i believe in 1997 by Todd White).[/quote]You're right.  Peter Sejna had 36 in '03 for CC and Mark Hartigan had 37 in 2002.  Sejna won in '03 and Hartigan was a Hobey finalist in '02.  But I'm not going to quibble with leaving a Goofer out of the mix.

[Dafatone]

If Elliott wins, it is also because the WCHA is so much more offensively orientated than the ECAC.  Without getting into any debate about the quality of the two conferences, there's no question that WCHA is more offensive.  So a 1.70 GAA from a WCHA goalie could be considered equal or better than the numbers McKee put up last year.  I don't think they quite cover the difference, but given that Wisconsin is only a good (not great) scoring team, I wouldn't mind seeing Elliott get the award.

Of course, there's the debate on whether he is good, or it is simply defense.  After our game with Wisconsin, I think the defense certainly helps, but Elliott's one hell of a goalie as well.