2005-2006 PWR - playoffs edition!

[Josh '99]

[quote Chris '03]I doubt this is your point, but if you're trying to say that a Cornell vs. Wisconsin in a regional game in GB is unfair, I'd call that a stretch. The same argument would have to apply to Cornell vs. Wisconsin in Rochester next year.[/quote]I've asked this before, and it's probably been answered before, but who's the host of the Rochester regional?  The NCAA website says the ECAC Hockey League is the host, but does anyone know whether any particular school is part of that?

[Jacob '06]

[quote jmh30][quote Chris '03]I doubt this is your point, but if you're trying to say that a Cornell vs. Wisconsin in a regional game in GB is unfair, I'd call that a stretch. The same argument would have to apply to Cornell vs. Wisconsin in Rochester next year.[/quote]I've asked this before, and it's probably been answered before, but who's the host of the Rochester regional?  The NCAA website says the ECAC Hockey League is the host, but does anyone know whether any particular school is part of that?[/quote]

I'm pretty sure I saw someone here or on USCHO say that it is just the league, so no team will get put there by default.

[jy3]

i like updating the rankings b/c i like to procrastinate

[schoaff]

[quote Jordan 04]Ok, completely honest question here, which requires that preface because otherwise it could come across as some type of flaming:

Why does everyone pay such god-damn close attention to this?  Who cares?

[/quote]

The same reason we watch a bunch of kids whack a piece of rubber while sliding around on ice. By pretending it's important we can willingly fool our brains into producing pleasurable neuro-chemical reactions.

It's a neat trick when you think about it.

[cth95]

That's why I like reading all of this stuff!  :-D

[Steve M]

[quote Jacob '06][quote jmh30][quote Chris '03]I doubt this is your point, but if you're trying to say that a Cornell vs. Wisconsin in a regional game in GB is unfair, I'd call that a stretch. The same argument would have to apply to Cornell vs. Wisconsin in Rochester next year.[/quote]I've asked this before, and it's probably been answered before, but who's the host of the Rochester regional?  The NCAA website says the ECAC Hockey League is the host, but does anyone know whether any particular school is part of that?[/quote]

I'm pretty sure I saw someone here or on USCHO say that it is just the league, so no team will get put there by default.[/quote]

That figures.  The ECAC wouldn't want to give Cornell an unfair advantage or anything. ::rolleyes::

[Beeeej]

[quote Steve M][quote Jacob '06]I'm pretty sure I saw someone here or on USCHO say that it is just the league, so no team will get put there by default.[/quote]
That figures.  The ECAC wouldn't want to give Cornell an unfair advantage or anything. ::rolleyes::[/quote]

Before you go assuming some massive anti-Cornell conspiracy, are you aware that any school designated as the "host" of a regional has chosen to be involved, and has been actively involved, in the bidding process?  Last I heard, Cornell didn't bid on that regional, the conference did.

Beeeej

[Jim Hyla]

[quote Steve M][quote Jacob '06][quote jmh30][quote Chris '03]I doubt this is your point, but if you're trying to say that a Cornell vs. Wisconsin in a regional game in GB is unfair, I'd call that a stretch. The same argument would have to apply to Cornell vs. Wisconsin in Rochester next year.[/quote]I've asked this before, and it's probably been answered before, but who's the host of the Rochester regional?  The NCAA website says the ECAC Hockey League is the host, but does anyone know whether any particular school is part of that?[/quote]

I'm pretty sure I saw someone here or on USCHO say that it is just the league, so no team will get put there by default.[/quote]

That figures.  The ECAC wouldn't want to give Cornell an unfair advantage or anything. ::rolleyes::[/quote]Come on, Cornell could have applied to the NCAA to hold a tourney. That's what the ECAC did and they got it. BU regularly does this at Worcester.

I think some of us are too paranoid.  ::nut::

[Trotsky]

[quote schoaff]The same reason we watch a bunch of kids whack a piece of rubber while sliding around on ice. By pretending it's important we can willingly fool our brains into producing pleasurable neuro-chemical reactions.

It's a neat trick when you think about it.[/quote]

Yes.  Yes, it is.  Well said.

[Winnabago]

[quote Jim Hyla][quote Steve M]
That figures.  The ECAC wouldn't want to give Cornell an unfair advantage or anything. ::rolleyes::[/quote]Come on, Cornell could have applied to the NCAA to hold a tourney. That's what the ECAC did and they got it. BU regularly does this at Worcester.

I think some of us are too paranoid.  ::nut::[/quote]

Ok, I'll ask the question.  Is there a financial or other IVY-related reason that Cornell does not apply to host a regional at Blue Cross or the OnCenter?  I would imagine that there is significant cost to rent the building, but that would be offset by ticket revenue (and the NCAA distributes teams to help attendance).  They use Rochester as a neutral site already, so it can't be that much of a stretch.  If RPI can host, our boosters surely can manage it.

[RichH]

[quote Winnabago]

Ok, I'll ask the question.  Is there a financial or other IVY-related reason that Cornell does not apply to host a regional at Blue Cross or the OnCenter?  I would imagine that there is significant cost to rent the building, but that would be offset by ticket revenue (and the NCAA distributes teams to help attendance).  They use Rochester as a neutral site already, so it can't be that much of a stretch.  If RPI can host, our boosters surely can manage it.[/quote]

Wait.  You trust our athletic director (note the capitalization) with anything that needs to be organized??!?  He's in charge of the people who have recently brought you such events as the Hockey ticket sprint-n-beatdown '05, and the forms-that-slipped-our-mind-so-students-have-to-pay-for-sports-now-apalooza.  If they were given an NCAA hockey regional, I'm sure teams would show up to find a squash court set up instead of ice.

Now if it were wrestling, we'd be all set.

[Winnabago]

[quote RichH][quote Winnabago]

Ok, I'll ask the question.  Is there a financial or other IVY-related reason that Cornell does not apply to host a regional at Blue Cross or the OnCenter?  I would imagine that there is significant cost to rent the building, but that would be offset by ticket revenue (and the NCAA distributes teams to help attendance).  They use Rochester as a neutral site already, so it can't be that much of a stretch.  If RPI can host, our boosters surely can manage it.[/quote]

Wait.  You trust our athletic director (note the capitalization) with anything that needs to be organized??!?  He's in charge of the people who have recently brought you such events as the Hockey ticket sprint-n-beatdown '05, and the forms-that-slipped-our-mind-so-students-have-to-pay-for-sports-now-apalooza.  If they were given an NCAA hockey regional, I'm sure teams would show up to find a squash court set up instead of ice.

Now if it were wrestling, we'd be all set.[/quote]

There's a lot of pent-up frustration showing, Rich.  I'll play along, though.  Obviously Schafer understands the advantage host teams have, so why is it such a stretch, or a better question might be: why isn't this a bigger issue to him, the players, and contributing alumni?  90% of D1 doesn't even try to host, and many that do attempt it, don't go on to make the tourney.  We could have an advantage, gained through off-ice work, that doesn't seem to be the big issue for those who are responsible for it.  Does coach just not have that much sway?

[Lauren '06]

[quote Winnabago][quote RichH][quote Winnabago]

Ok, I'll ask the question.  Is there a financial or other IVY-related reason that Cornell does not apply to host a regional at Blue Cross or the OnCenter?  I would imagine that there is significant cost to rent the building, but that would be offset by ticket revenue (and the NCAA distributes teams to help attendance).  They use Rochester as a neutral site already, so it can't be that much of a stretch.  If RPI can host, our boosters surely can manage it.[/quote]

Wait.  You trust our athletic director (note the capitalization) with anything that needs to be organized??!?  He's in charge of the people who have recently brought you such events as the Hockey ticket sprint-n-beatdown '05, and the forms-that-slipped-our-mind-so-students-have-to-pay-for-sports-now-apalooza.  If they were given an NCAA hockey regional, I'm sure teams would show up to find a squash court set up instead of ice.

Now if it were wrestling, we'd be all set.[/quote]

There's a lot of pent-up frustration showing, Rich.  I'll play along, though.  Obviously Schafer understands the advantage host teams have, so why is it such a stretch, or a better question might be: why isn't this a bigger issue to him, the players, and contributing alumni?  90% of D1 doesn't even try to host, and many that do attempt it, don't go on to make the tourney.  We could have an advantage, gained through off-ice work, that doesn't seem to be the big issue for those who are responsible for it.  Does coach just not have that much sway?[/quote]
Cornell hosted an NCAA men's lacrosse regional on campus in 2004 and came out of it looking not so good.  They just weren't prepared for the amount of people that showed up.  I cannot speak to whether hockey would have more or less personnel issues, but I figure if Cornell athletics can't take care of business in their own backyard, they probably couldn't do it in Rochester.

[nyc94]

Wouldn't the arena shoulder some/most of the burden on the day of the event?

[jy3]

plus maybe with the renovations the athletic department doesnt have the cash - the university could kick in some cash but they dont have it either ::rolleyes::