Bill Gates Hall > goodbye Hoy Field?

Started by Ben Rocky '04, January 26, 2006, 09:35:36 AM

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Liz '05

[quote jtwcornell91][quote Liz '05]Oooh, then maybe Upson will have more than one women's bathroom.  Not that I particularly minded getting to leave math class for excessive amounts of time, but it was annoying when I was on crutches.[/quote]

But really, what about Cornell is not annoying when you're on crutches?  (Other than history majors who let you lean on their shoulders as you walk them to the library :-))[/quote]

Excellent point.  For instance, the office that gives out handicapped passes is on the third floor of a building that requires walking up stairs to get to the elevator (or, alternatively, walking around to the opposite side of the building from its parking spaces).

David Harding

[quote rstott]Just keep in mind that this is this year's master plan.  Master plans come and go.
               
I've been told that the reason Bradfield Hall is so oddly sited with no entrance onto Tower Road is because the master plan at the time called for building a connecting road from Tower Road to Forest Home Drive so Bradfield would have been on the corner.[/quote] http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Oct07/masterPlan.html[quote Cornell Chronicle]CMP will provide a context for physical changes on campus over the next 25-plus years. The plan is intended to realize the university's research, teaching and outreach missions and its residential, recreational and administrative priorities. The input from the open houses will help to further refine the draft plan over the fall and winter.

"Frankly, you don't want to be reinventing this every 10 years as you go along," said Dark. "People who do that run into a lot of difficulty in the long term. I give Cornell a lot of credit for trying to think this far ahead."



About the CMP:
For all you need to know about the CMP, visit http://masterplan.cornell.edu/default.cfm. The online site describes the purpose of the plan, the planning process, background on the Toronto-based consultant team, related planning initiatives on campus, as well as news and upcoming events.[/quote]

David Harding

Quote from: Ben Rocky '04They want it near Engineering and Ag, that doesn't leave too many options....

http://www.cornellsun.com/media/paper866/news/2006/01/26/News/Gates.Foundation.Gives.25.Million.For.Building-1505285.shtml?norewrite&sourcedomain=www.cornellsun.com

Goodbye Hoy Field parking lot.
The Cornell Chronicle reports that William H. Gates Hall will be built on the site of the current Hoy North parking lot across from Barton Hall.  Ithaca Journal doesn't add much.  Pritzker Award winning architect Thom Mayne.  As noted in the earlier posts, it's for CIS to enhance collaborative efforts.  To help you visualize the site, check the Google Maps satellite view.

phillysportsfan

Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: Ben Rocky '04They want it near Engineering and Ag, that doesn't leave too many options....

http://www.cornellsun.com/media/paper866/news/2006/01/26/News/Gates.Foundation.Gives.25.Million.For.Building-1505285.shtml?norewrite&sourcedomain=www.cornellsun.com

Goodbye Hoy Field parking lot.
The Cornell Chronicle reports that William H. Gates Hall will be built on the site of the current Hoy North parking lot across from Barton Hall.  Ithaca Journal doesn't add much.  Pritzker Award winning architect Thom Mayne.  As noted in the earlier posts, it's for CIS to enhance collaborative efforts.  To help you visualize the site, check the Google Maps satellite view.

Does that mean goodbye racquetball courts?

upperdeck

not yet but the design isnt done who knows. doesnt even really mean no parking lot as they added back parking when Martha van was rebuilt. in a year when they actually start building things will become clear.

when hoy field goes maybe we get back lots of parking right next to the garage..

ajh258

It's a horrible space for an additional building - not enough parking space and a bit removed from the Eng Quad. They could have spent the money rebuilding the Eng Library or renovating Olin Hall (Chem Eng) and then renamed it after Gates if he wanted to. I don't see how we need more space considering Duffield was just built and more Engs stay in their rooms anyways.

KeithK

Quote from: ajh258It's a horrible space for an additional building - not enough parking space and a bit removed from the Eng Quad. They could have spent the money rebuilding the Eng Library or renovating Olin Hall (Chem Eng) and then renamed it after Gates if he wanted to. I don't see how we need more space considering Duffield was just built and more Engs stay in their rooms anyways.
Considering that the new building is intended for CS and the new Information Science Dept. I doubt it was as simple as Gates saying "here's some money - do something with it".

amerks127

From the few baseball games I saw, it seemed foul balls frequently landed in that parking lot.  Any word on whether Gates has offered to fund a baseball-repellent forcefield around the building as well?

As the Cornell Master Plan indicated, moving Hoy Field is a matter of when, not if.

semsox

Quote from: ajh258It's a horrible space for an additional building - not enough parking space and a bit removed from the Eng Quad. They could have spent the money rebuilding the Eng Library or renovating Olin Hall (Chem Eng) and then renamed it after Gates if he wanted to. I don't see how we need more space considering Duffield was just built and more Engs stay in their rooms anyways.

If they weren't renovating Olin, what were they doing when they closed the entire 2nd floor and the ChemE lounge in the basement for my entire senior year :-/

mnagowski

Quote from: ajh258It's a horrible space for an additional building - not enough parking space and a bit removed from the Eng Quad. They could have spent the money rebuilding the Eng Library or renovating Olin Hall (Chem Eng) and then renamed it after Gates if he wanted to. I don't see how we need more space considering Duffield was just built and more Engs stay in their rooms anyways.

Right, because the only people who use these buildings are undergraduates.
The moniker formally know as metaezra.
http://www.metaezra.com

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: ajh258It's a horrible space for an additional building - not enough parking space and a bit removed from the Eng Quad. They could have spent the money rebuilding the Eng Library or renovating Olin Hall (Chem Eng) and then renamed it after Gates if he wanted to. I don't see how we need more space considering Duffield was just built and more Engs stay in their rooms anyways.

All I can say is when I was an engineering undergrad, our study groups tended to be at my apartment.

For practical reasons, of course.  We had HBO and were only a few yards from Dunbar's.  ::drunk::

ajh258

Quote from: semsox
Quote from: ajh258It's a horrible space for an additional building - not enough parking space and a bit removed from the Eng Quad. They could have spent the money rebuilding the Eng Library or renovating Olin Hall (Chem Eng) and then renamed it after Gates if he wanted to. I don't see how we need more space considering Duffield was just built and more Engs stay in their rooms anyways.

If they weren't renovating Olin, what were they doing when they closed the entire 2nd floor and the ChemE lounge in the basement for my entire senior year :-/

They've been "renovating" Olin for a while now... Honestly, they are only replacing old walls with new ones and consolidating small rooms. The huge hallways are a big waste of space - nothing is being done with it.

I'm not sure when Olin hall was built (if I remember correctly, it's the late 60s) but definitely could use a bigger facelift. In any case, that area is prime real estate and should be utilized more. It's right across from the Eng Library - which a lot of ECEs hang out because they need the computer labs.

nyc94

Olin Hall opened in 1942.  I believe the renovations also included new windows and replacement of HVAC system.

Trotsky

The Eng quad is growing so fast relative to the rest of the campus that perhaps they'd consider relocating the whole thing?  To, say, Troy? ;-)

David Harding

The Cornell Sun has a little more background on the architect, Thom Mayne.