Bill Gates Hall > goodbye Hoy Field?

Started by Ben Rocky '04, January 26, 2006, 09:35:36 AM

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Scersk '97

Starchitect, Starchitect, what are they feeding you?

The San Francisco Federal Building.

Looking forward to another ugly, misshapen box that will be hailed as "revolutionary."  You know what would be revolutionary?  A quality building made of quality materials that is intended to make life easy for the humans that use it rather than as some intellectual, "artistic" enterprise.

Trotsky

Quote from: Scersk '97You know what would be revolutionary?  A quality building made of quality materials that is intended to make life easy for the humans that use it rather than as some intellectual, "artistic" enterprise.
I'll bet you also want music and art that has an emotional and meaningful impact on normal humans, as opposed to masturbatory or meta-ironic toys for snotty cognoscenti?

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Scersk '97You know what would be revolutionary?  A quality building made of quality materials that is intended to make life easy for the humans that use it rather than as some intellectual, "artistic" enterprise.
I'll bet you also want music and art that has an emotional and meaningful impact on normal humans, as opposed to masturbatory or meta-ironic toys for snotty cognoscenti?

And we have a winner in the 24¢ word contest!  ::banana::

David Harding

Ithaca Journal has a story on campus construction featuring a preliminary rendering of Gates Hall.  A somewhat jarring gateway to campus.

Jeff Hopkins '82

Quote from: David HardingIthaca Journal has a story on campus construction featuring a preliminary rendering of Gates Hall.  A somewhat jarring gateway to campus.

Can you say "Hammerhead Hall?"

Ben

Quote from: David HardingIthaca Journal has a story on campus construction featuring a preliminary rendering of Gates Hall.  A somewhat jarring gateway to campus.
So assuming Hoy Field stays, it would be off to the right from that angle.

David Harding

Quote from: Ben
Quote from: David HardingIthaca Journal has a story on campus construction featuring a preliminary rendering of Gates Hall.  A somewhat jarring gateway to campus.
So assuming Hoy Field stays, it would be off to the right from that angle.
Yes, there is plenty of room for the building in the little parking lot at the corner.

Ben

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Quote from: Ben
Quote from: David HardingIthaca Journal has a story on campus construction featuring a preliminary rendering of Gates Hall.  A somewhat jarring gateway to campus.
So assuming Hoy Field stays, it would be off to the right from that angle.
Yes, there is plenty of room for the building in the little parking lot at the corner.
Looking at the plans for that area, if the Gates building is only along Campus Road (and doesn't include the other planned buildings where Hoy now sits), then the Field would survive this phase of development.

upprdeck

Hoy field has a shelf life that I am not sure has been published yet but is not far off.  It is the prime spot left on campus

nyc94

Quote from: David HardingIthaca Journal has a story on campus construction featuring a preliminary rendering of Gates Hall.  A somewhat jarring gateway to campus.

Will that be a gateway to campus in a decade or so?  I think one version of the Master Plan envisions Hoy Road being eliminated.  Looking back at a post I made in this thread back in 2007 there had been a plan at one time to put Gates Hall in the back of the quad attached to Upson.  Upson would have been renovated and assumed many of the functions Carpenter currently serves paving the way for Carpenter's demolition.  I kind of wish they had gone through with that idea.

Ben

Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: David HardingIthaca Journal has a story on campus construction featuring a preliminary rendering of Gates Hall.  A somewhat jarring gateway to campus.

Will that be a gateway to campus in a decade or so?  I think one version of the Master Plan envisions Hoy Road being eliminated.  Looking back at a post I made in this thread back in 2007 there had been a plan at one time to put Gates Hall in the back of the quad attached to Upson.  Upson would have been renovated and assumed many of the functions Carpenter currently serves paving the way for Carpenter's demolition.  I kind of wish they had gone through with that idea.
Looking at The Master Plan™, Hoy Road will survive, although Rhodes will not be replaced when its lifespan is up.

To retread some ground that others discussed in this thread (much of it before my time on here -- or on the hill), I like a lot of what's in The Master Plan™: there's a lot of surface parking lot removal (which is fantastic) and re-opening of green space. I'll be sad to see Hoy go when it finally does, and the same with Berman. The East Center part of the project is far too urban for my liking, and gives the sense that the university will no longer focus on educating undergraduates. Most perplexing, though, is the designation of Uris and Bradfield -- the two ugliest prominent buildings on campus -- as "buildings with architectural merit."

nyc94

Quote from: BenLooking at The Master Plan™, Hoy Road will survive, although Rhodes will not be replaced when its lifespan is up.

I thought the road was being eliminated so I'm very wrong.  In looking at the plan for the first time in a while it looks like Hoy Road is being moved to line up with Garden Ave.  It would thread between the parking garage on one side and Gates Hall and a second building on the field on the other.  Maybe there is an updated plan but this is what I just looked at: http://www.masterplan.cornell.edu/doc/CMP_PART_2/Zones/05_GardenAvenue.pdf

Josh '99

Quote from: BenMost perplexing, though, is the designation of Uris and Bradfield -- the two ugliest prominent buildings on campus -- as "buildings with architectural merit."
How much more awesome does Goldwin Smith look when you see Uris if you turn your head the other way?
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04

Ben

Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: BenLooking at The Master Plan™, Hoy Road will survive, although Rhodes will not be replaced when its lifespan is up.

I thought the road was being eliminated so I'm very wrong.  In looking at the plan for the first time in a while it looks like Hoy Road is being moved to line up with Garden Ave.  It would thread between the parking garage on one side and Gates Hall and a second building on the field on the other.  Maybe there is an updated plan but this is what I just looked at: http://www.masterplan.cornell.edu/doc/CMP_PART_2/Zones/05_GardenAvenue.pdf
I was looking at the part for Zone 3 (Hoy Green)...and we're both partly right. It looks like the final development extends Garden Avenue to Hoy Road, which will eventually be split next to the open space between the north edge of Rhodes and the south end of Phillips in order to create an open green between Upson/Phillips and the building that will go up along Hoy Field's third base line.

Josh '99

Quote from: nyc94
Quote from: BenLooking at The Master Plan™, Hoy Road will survive, although Rhodes will not be replaced when its lifespan is up.

I thought the road was being eliminated so I'm very wrong.  In looking at the plan for the first time in a while it looks like Hoy Road is being moved to line up with Garden Ave.  It would thread between the parking garage on one side and Gates Hall and a second building on the field on the other.  Maybe there is an updated plan but this is what I just looked at: http://www.masterplan.cornell.edu/doc/CMP_PART_2/Zones/05_GardenAvenue.pdf
Maybe I missed something - is Day Hall being redeveloped or considered for redevelopment?  I notice on the third page of the linked PDF that it's shown in the colors indicating "potential building footprint" rather than any of the colors indicating the various types of existing buildings.
"They do all kind of just blend together into one giant dildo."
-Ben Rocky 04