(OT) Nickerson starting out right w/CU wrestling

[profudge]

Quoting a column from Binghamton Press by John Fox):  
[Q] Nickerson was a conceded starter when he enrolled. In his debut, host Cornell's 11-team Body Bar Invitational on Nov. 19, he won all four matches, averaging 43 seconds for two, then 12-2 over the West Point entry and 14-7 in the final.

The competition ratcheted up to 50 teams last weekend in the Cliff Keen Las Vegas Invitational, and Cornell finished second to Michigan, third-ranked nationally. Only Nickerson took a title. In his 9-4 semi, he beat top-seeded third-year soph Chad Mendes of Cal Poly. In the 7-4 championship match, he dominated second-seeded senior Jeremy Mendoza of Arizona State, whose coach explained in his tournament summary on the Sun Devils' Web site: "In the finals, Jeremy took on a tough freshman who is quickly making a name for himself on the college scene." [/Q]

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[Q]"Many dozens of wrestlers reach college with 'billings,' and don't live up to it," Koll said.  
The problem with Troy, Koll said, is that expectations are so high, "People hear me say what he's done so far and say, 'So what?' " [/Q]
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[Q]Nickerson remains 18 until next month, days before Cornell joins the Oklahomans and Iowans at the loaded National Duals. Defending NCAA champion Joe Dubuque, No. 1, is going on 24.[/Q]

[Jordan 04]

And the best news yet: he does not have syphilis, nor does he partake in the eating of babies.

[daredevilcu]

No, but the simple fact that you have your own Nickerson, and he's a wrestler, is funny.

[Rich S]

Yep, and that you remain obsessed with the "other" Nickerson is well...that's beyond funny.  

[RichH]

[Q]Rich S Wrote:

 Yep, and that you remain obsessed with the "other" Nickerson is well...that's beyond funny.  [/q]

I think the only reason for that obsession is that it never fails to get a rise out of you, Rich...which is also hilarious.

[Rich S]

You call that a "rise"?   C'mon, a rise from me is a lot more than that and you know it.  :-D

Seriously now, John Fox, who is the Sports Editor emeritus at the Evening Press, which is my hometown paper, has been at it for over 40 years.  He's a legend in the Southern Tier.

Which Binghamton area HS is Nickerson from?  I no longer follow HS wrestling up there.

[ugarte]

[Q]Rich S Wrote: Yep, and that you remain obsessed with the "other" Nickerson is well...that's beyond funny.[/q]Are you familiar with the phrase "running gag"? It is not synonymous with "obsession."

[Q]Rich S Wrote: You call that a "rise"?   C'mon, a rise from me is a lot more than that and you know it.  [/q]Say what you want to, but Pavlov's bell didn't work this well.

[RichS]

Yeah you can call it a "running gag" if you like.   A mighty pathetic one.

As for Pavlov, well, I am a dog lover.  :-D

[profudge]

Rich  - Troy wrestled  at  Chenango Forks HS   I believe and he won 5 NY State titles while there.

[RichS]

The Forks has had a strong program for decades.  But how did he win 5 titles?  Isn't four still the max # of years in a varsity sport?

[Trotsky]

Some states allow underage/underclass participants in some sports dependent on the sport's other requirements (weight class, etc), but I always thought if you did that (say, playing varsity tiddly winks as an 8th grader) then you lost a year of eligibility on the upper end.

[profudge]

Folks,

If an exceptional player is elegible (tests and guidelines change by sport and  gender etc.)  they can play 5 years of varsity competition in NY State.  

Locally I can think of 2 good examples - a talented young lady who played boys varsity soccer about half the games in her 8th grade year and played again her 9th grade year and switched to girls varsity for her last 3 years as a team was developed for girls - - she went on to play NCAA soccer Div 2 or lower Div 1.

A nice young man who played varsity Bball from 8th - 12th grade, league MVP several years and all section 4 for at least 2 (maybe  3 years) - went on to play at Canisus for NCAA Div 1  ...  and is back now coaching and teaching a wonderful example for kids in HS here.

:-)

[marty]

[Q]RichS Wrote:

 
Seriously now, John Fox, who is the Sports Editor emeritus at the Evening Press, which is my hometown paper, has been at it for over 40 years. He's a legend in the Southern Tier. [/q]



I'm lost as to what Fox has to do with this thread.  Rich??

[peterg]

[Q]profudge Wrote:

 Folks,

If an exceptional player is elegible (tests and guidelines change by sport and  gender etc.)  they can play 5 years of varsity competition in NY State.  

Locally I can think of 2 good examples - a talented young lady who played boys varsity soccer about half the games in her 8th grade year and played again her 9th grade year and switched to girls varsity for her last 3 years as a team was developed for girls - - she went on to play NCAA soccer Div 2 or lower Div 1.

A nice young man who played varsity Bball from 8th - 12th grade, league MVP several years and all section 4 for at least 2 (maybe  3 years) - went on to play at Canisus for NCAA Div 1  ...  and is back now coaching and teaching a wonderful example for kids in HS here.

[/q]

Locally, in Ithaca, a number of 8th graders have played HS hockey, including, the LA Kings' Dustin Brown who played two years with the HS before heading off to the OHL.  It's happening in HS hockey more frequently with the growth of junior programs that take away a lot of the older HS players.

[ugarte]

[Q]RichS Wrote:

 Yeah you can call it a "running gag" if you like.   A mighty pathetic one.[/q]I'm not particularly fond of the gag myself, but I at least get the joke. I'm not sure you are in any position to judge whether it is pathetic or not until you figure it out.