Why is the second Niagara game in Rochester?

[GTSnowracer]

Does anybody know why the 11-26 game against Niagara is in Rochester?  It looks like that is supposed to be a "home and home" weekend, but Rochester seems a very random place for a game between those two teams.

My folks live walking distance from NU, and I'll be home for thanksgiving that weekend, but Rochester is a bit of a hike to go see the game.

[jy3]

[Q]GTSnowracer Wrote:

 Does anybody know why the 11-26 game against Niagara is in Rochester?  It looks like that is supposed to be a "home and home" weekend, but Rochester seems a very random place for a game between those two teams.

My folks live walking distance from NU, and I'll be home for thanksgiving that weekend, but Rochester is a bit of a hike to go see the game.[/q]

and you call your self a member of the lynah faithful? j/k
my  wife and i will  be driving from cheektowaga to rochacha for the game. for us it is better than trying to get to ithaca, that is the way that I look at it. not sure why it is there instead of at niagara. as you know from living in the buffalo metro area...the rochester buffalo sports mix has been doing just that, mixing.

i am excited considering i am postcall that day and have to be in the next AM - roch is better than ithaca for me. niagara would be closer but 1 hr 15 minutes each way is easy. i did that for a concert two weeks ago.

[canuck89]

Yeah, I expressed that same frustration at first.  I live in Amherst and expected a 20 min. drive, but I guess 1 hour 15 min isn't that bad after all.  Problem is that I don't know if I'm going to Ithaca the night before for the game.  Hm... lots of driving I guess.

[ithacat]

Personally, I'd like to see Cornell play a game in Rochester every couple of years for recruiting reasons -- though I don't know if that has anything to do with it. Niagara has 3 kids from the Rochester area and wants to continue to recruit there; if they're the "home" team playing at BCA might be a nice, and smart, thing to do. Both schools may see this as a chance to generate a bigger gate than either would at home.

It'll be interesting to see how big a draw this game is. It certainly gives a lot of Cornell fans in the Rochester & Buffalo areas a chance to see the Big Red. Every Cornell fan able to do so should try to go to the game. This is Cornell's chance to show the NCAA that (if eligible) they would be a strong draw in a Rochester regional next year.

[billhoward]

Cornell is pretty empty on Thanksgiving weekend so it's not such a big deal - for departed students - to not have it in Ithaca. You feel different if you're faculty or Ithaca resident or living in Binghamton. Having it in Rochester makes it a two-hour drive or less for students and alumni from Buffalo, Ithaca, Syracuse, and of course Rochester. The CC of Rochester is pretty large and this makes a nice event for them ... and what else is there to do that weekend in Rochester other than wrap burlap around all the lilac trees?

As with Niagara, it doesn't hurt Cornell's recruiting presence to play a game in Rochester, either. We get a few players from the Flower City.

It's a bit closer of a drive for player parents from Ontario.

It's better than playing the second game in Syracuse. Does anyone remember the dreary Syracuse Hockey Invitational Tournaments of the 1970s-1980s? Speaking of Syracuse, it's too bad the Orange don't create a D1 hockey team. That would be a great rivalry. OTOH, the more people go D1, the harder it is going to be statistically for Cornell to recapture the glory of 1967 and 1970.

[ben03]

[Q]ithacat Wrote:
It'll be interesting to see how big a draw this game is. It certainly gives a lot of Cornell fans in the Rochester & Buffalo areas a chance to see the Big Red. Every Cornell fan able to do so should try to go to the game. This is Cornell's chance to show the NCAA that (if eligible) they would be a strong draw in a Rochester regional next year.[/q]
i'm too lazy to check if regionals ever been co-hosted but is there any chance this is a "dry-run" for next year.

[billhoward]

East Regional is slated for Rochester in 2007 but Cornell apparently is not the host school. If you make the regionals and you're the host school, you play there.

[ben03]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:
East Regional is slated for Rochester in 2007 but Cornell apparently is not the host school. If you make the regionals and you're the host school, you play there. [/q]
where did you find this information?

[RichH]

[Q]ben03 Wrote:

 [Q2]billhoward Wrote:
East Regional is slated for Rochester in 2007 but Cornell apparently is not the host school. If you make the regionals and you're the host school, you play there. [/Q]
where did you find this information?[/q]

Which part?  The regional sites of the future are listed on the NCAA site:
http://ncaasports.com/icehockey/mens/schedules/

as for playing there if you're the host school, that's pretty common knowledge, see Minnesota, 2005.

from http://www.uscho.com/FAQs/?data=selection

[Q]teams will be moved in order to intra-conference matchups in the first round. That remains a priority. As does the need to put schools hosting a regional into that regional. These are the two sacred cows for the committee.[/Q]

[redhair34]

[Q]RichH Wrote:

 [Q2]ben03 Wrote:

 [Q2]billhoward Wrote:
East Regional is slated for Rochester in 2007 but Cornell apparently is not the host school. If you make the regionals and you're the host school, you play there. [/Q]
where did you find this information?[/Q]
Which part?  The regional sites of the future are listed on the NCAA site:


as for playing there if you're the host school, that's pretty common knowledge, see Minnesota, 2005.

from

[Q2]teams will be moved in order to intra-conference matchups in the first round. That remains a priority. As does the need to put schools hosting a regional into that regional. These are the two sacred cows for the committee.[/Q]
[/q]


I think the $64,000 question is does "Host: ECAC Hockey League" mean that the "best" ECAC team gets placed at that regional?  Even as I type this I'm thinking the answer is "no," but it sure would be nice.

[ben03]

i was asking where Bill found out that Cornell wasn't the host for the '07 Rochester regional?

[Trotsky]

If recruiting is the issue, I'd rather Cornell play games in Ottawa, Edmonton and Vancouver. :-)

I can't see us hosting an NCAA unless at the Pepsi-Knick-Corporate-Chump-of-the-Month in Albany.  What are they on the hook for if they host?  Money?  I could see Cornell bribe, er, um, sorry, answer an NCAA RFP with a few dollars, if in doing so it improves the program --> leads to wins --> leads to alumni giving.  If it turns out to be revenue neutral and by doing so we don't have to play in Minny, then what's the downside?

[redhair34]

[Q]ben03 Wrote:

 i was asking where Bill found out that Cornell wasn't the host for the '07 Rochester regional?[/q]

Check the link RichH posted...

[Q]
FUTURE SITES 2007
 
Regionals (4)
 
East
March 23-24, 2007
Blue Cross Arena
Rochester, N.Y.
Host: ECAC Hockey League
 [/Q]

[ben03]

[Q]redhair34 Wrote:

 [Q2]ben03 Wrote:

 i was asking where Bill found out that Cornell wasn't the host for the '07 Rochester regional?[/Q]
Check the link RichH posted...

[Q2]
FUTURE SITES 2007
 
Regionals (4)
 
East
March 23-24, 2007
Blue Cross Arena
Rochester, N.Y.
Host: ECAC Hockey League
 [/Q]
[/q]
i took this as the host was TBD, not that the whole league was a host. i could be wrong.

[DeltaOne81]

[Q]Trotsky Wrote:

 If recruiting is the issue, I'd rather Cornell play games in Ottawa, Edmonton and Vancouver.  

I can't see us hosting an NCAA unless at the Pepsi-Knick-Corporate-Chump-of-the-Month in Albany.  What are they on the hook for if they host?  Money?[/q]


How about 'running the entire event'? Organizing ticket sales, selling tickets, planning, scheduling, events (on an off ice), everything. Generally done by schools with big athletic departments, not a small operation like we have.

As for the ECAC as a host, I would think the committee would try to give us ('us' being some team in the league) some preference, but I don't think it'll be written in stone.