Cornell 3 @ Brown 2 (OT 11/5) post-game thread

[gatitita '05]

the problem wasnt getting them in there, the problem was them coming over and counting how many people we had playing.  and then stopping us, in the middle of playing, to kick us out of the building.  we got the 41 in at first....

[KP '06]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

Reality check time: The other school's athletic director doesn't give a rap about the visiting band, nor does the facility or ticket manager, nor perhaps their Cornell counterparts. And they care even less about your wanting to bring 40 people to play instead of 25. [/q]

Would you rather have the band bend over and give Brown the ol' thumbs up when we're pissed off about something that legitimately matters to us? That doesn't seem like much of a life lesson.

The band is well aware that the vast majority of our athletics department (and the entirety of other athletics departments) treats us like the bastard stepchild that nobody wants. However, if other athletics departments are anything like ours, then they care very much about their reputation and how they are seen in the public light, and that is a weakness that can be exploited.

Edit: Sorry again for hijacking a hockey thread!

[ugarte]

[Q]Section A Banshee Wrote: It's like coaching youth soccer and benching the same kids week after week.  It makes you sick but it's necessary.[/q]Please don't coach youth soccer after your days as band leader end.

[Trotsky]

[Q]KP '06 Wrote:
Would you rather have the band bend over and give Brown the ol' thumbs up when we're pissed off about something that legitimately matters to us? That doesn't seem like much of a life lesson.[/q]
Good preparation for marriage, though. ;-)

[billhoward]

[Q]KP '06 Wrote:Would you rather have the band bend over and give Brown the ol' thumbs up when we're pissed off about something that legitimately matters to us? That doesn't seem like much of a life lesson.

The band is well aware that the vast majority of our athletics department (and the entirety of other athletics departments) treats us like the bastard stepchild that nobody wants. However, if other athletics departments are anything like ours, then they care very much about their reputation and how they are seen in the public light, and that is a weakness that can be exploited.

Edit: Sorry again for hijacking a hockey thread![/q]We all want to support the underdog and the persecuted. I was the one at Yale with the "Free Mike" poster. Maybe we should make one up for the band. "Let My People Play"? "Free Bird, Free (the) Band"? "Band Blows, Administration Sucks"? "Band Blows, Andy Sucks" fits better on a two-line poster, but then you're making it personal and there should always be an element of humor.

BTW: For Lynah East, how about: "Mean People Suck. Harvard Swallows." Maybe make it two separate posters and put on poster #2 "Courtesy Cornell Ornithology Labs."

[Lauren '06]

So the word has come down from on high.  According to Anita Brenner, all the AD's in the ECAC got together before the season and agreed to not let in more than 25 members of any traveling band, which is why things happened differently this season than we were used to in the past.  It is probably not documented, it's just an agreement they all reached in committee.  So it looks like this is policy forever from now on.

I'm also very appreciative to athletics for not telling us this before we left last Friday...

[Bryan '06]

Well, I'm happy to know that someone who is intimately involved with our group represented us at this meeting...::rolleyes::

[Chris \'03]

[Q]Section A Banshee Wrote:

 So the word has come down from on high.  According to Anita Brenner, all the AD's in the ECAC got together before the season and agreed to not let in more than 25 members of any traveling band, which is why things happened differently this season than we were used to in the past.  It is probably not documented, it's just an agreement they all reached in committee.  So it looks like this is policy forever from now on.

I'm also very appreciative to athletics for not telling us this before we left last Friday...[/q]

They could just be lying. Athletics administrators have wild imaginations and often the way to defeat logical arguments or defusing a situation is fabricating a rule.  See the "ivy rule" about bands not being allowed to sit under the basket at basketball following the armond hill incident. What? There is no rule? That's crazy talk! Our own athletics department would never lie to us...oh wait. ::rolleyes::

Chip firmly still on shoulder...

[Lauren '06]

[Q]Chris '03 Wrote:

 [Q2]Section A Banshee Wrote:

 So the word has come down from on high.  According to Anita Brenner, all the AD's in the ECAC got together before the season and agreed to not let in more than 25 members of any traveling band, which is why things happened differently this season than we were used to in the past.  It is probably not documented, it's just an agreement they all reached in committee.  So it looks like this is policy forever from now on.

I'm also very appreciative to athletics for not telling us this before we left last Friday...[/Q]
They could just be lying. Athletics administrators have wild imaginations and often the way to defeat logical arguments or defusing a situation is fabricating a rule.  See the "ivy rule" about bands not being allowed to sit under the basket at basketball following the armond hill incident. What? There is no rule? That's crazy talk! Our own athletics department would never lie to us...oh wait.  

Chip firmly still on shoulder...[/q]
Point being, if we push the issue, all they'll do is REALLY issue a regulation saying the same thing.  Either way, the days of 41-person bands seem to be over.

[ugarte]

[Q]Section A Banshee Wrote:Point being, if we push the issue, all they'll do is REALLY issue a regulation saying the same thing.  Either way, the days of 41-person bands seem to be over.[/q]As a non-band alum who has read a lot of band posts here, it appears that there are two (maybe three) bands that really matter (ie, travel in numbers): ours, Clarkson's, and (perhaps) Colgate's.

Any chance those three schools would agree to a reciprocal waiver of the 25 person rule? (Or that the AD's would agree to the waiver if agreed?) I don't think that I am alone in feeling that the atmosphere at Lynah is enhanced when the opposition band arrives in force and plays respectfully*. I'd like to think that the bandies at Clarkson and Colgate feel the same way.

* The specific definition of respectfully used here: loud and obnoxious, but only when it is the visitors' turn to play. It is assumed that the hosts should treat the guests with the same "respect."