Cornell 3 @ Brown 2 (OT 11/5) post-game thread

[Liz '05]

[Q]A-19 Wrote:

and when did brown decide to have fans? i mean, after last night's amazing performance i can see why they decided to show up again. conspicuously absent were the 3 little juvey hall kids with their plastic horns.

-mike '04[/q]

I wonder if there are more fans because this game is not over Christmas break, as it has been over the past few years.  And I can't decide whether the missing kids is a good or bad thing - they were fun to make fun of.

[redhair34]

[Q]A-19 Wrote:

oh, and the non-goal off the post looked very much in. after it bounced out of the inside of the post, it landed right on a cornell stick, but they blew the play dead bc they called it a goal. had they not stopped, it's likely it would have been an actual goal too

[/q]

On the radio Jason was very insistant that it should have been a goal and that Brown got away with one.

[redhair34]

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 [Q2]Anne 85 Wrote:

 Well, tonight at least, the defense was missing a few cogs.  Pokaluk was out due to the DQ, and Gleed was apparently a last-minute scratch.  So, we were skating 5 D-men:  O'Byrne, Glover, Krantz, Seminoff, and Davenport.  I think we can all agree that's not a dream-team line-up -- at least not this early in the season.

Given that Sasha is on the top PP unit, and we were also missing Chris Abbott, a go-to faceoff guy, the offense was also a little off-balance.  I'd say that we did what we had to this weekend and came out with the wins, and it's much too soon to panic.
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Did anyone notice if Kindret ever made it onto the ice?  There seemed to be a lot of shifting going on with the lines tonight to compensate for having only three centers.  Scott filled in occasionally at center, IIRC.[/q]

I believe I heard his name once on the broadcast, but I'm sure those that were there would have a better idea.

[billhoward]

Kindret was in the box score lineup. http://www.collegehockeystats.net/0506/boxes/mbrncor1.n05

Attendance was listed as 1865 (Meehan capacity if 3100 I believe) vs. around 1100 for Colgate on Friday.

[oceanst41]

I do remember on the radio hearing he nearly scored a goal in the first, and then Jason went on to talk about McCutcheon scoring his first ever against Yale.

[Al DeFlorio]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 Kindret was in the box score lineup.
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He dressed for the game, so he's in the lineup.  No Gametracker for the Brown game, so can't check that.

Anyone know what's up with Gleed missing the game?

[redhair34]

[Q]Al DeFlorio Wrote:

 [Q2]billhoward Wrote:

 Kindret was in the box score lineup.
[/Q]
He dressed for the game, so he's in the lineup.  No Gametracker for the Brown game, so can't check that.

Anyone know what's up with Gleed missing the game?[/q]

Jason said he was "banged up" during the Yale game and we "might not see much of him tonight."  It turned out that we didn't see him last night.  Also there was no mention of Chris Abbott just that he was injured.  I know we've discussed this ad nauseam about player injury privacy but I think it is a good idea from a strategy standpoint.  Not only does it keep our opponents guessing who will be in the line up, but in a game like hockey knowledge of a player's recovering injury could give the opposition dangerous ammunition on the ice.

[calgARI '07]

Just got back a few hours ago.  I thought Cornell played a lot better against Brown than they did against Yale.  These guys reallyl really battled.  Huge character win for them.  With Pokuluk out and Gleed hurt, Cornell only dressed five defensemen, including Davenport who had never played a college game before.  O'Byrne and Glover both played over 35 minutes and were extraordinary.   Seminoff really stepped up his game in this obviously dire situation.  Krantz was BRUTAL.  The entire complexion of the game was changed when he handed the puck over leading to the short handed breakaway that tied the game.  Brown was a step behind up until that point and that goal gave them a ton of confidence.  Krantz did not see another shift on the powerplay that night and if Pokuluk and Gleed were dressed, I don't think he would have seen another shift.  I'll be interested to see if he stays in the lineup next weekend.  Kindret dressed in Chris Abbott's place but he only played two shifts the entire game both of which came in the first period.  Carefoot was far and away Cornell's best player this weekend, creating offense every time he was out there.  Was just amazing all over the ice.  Sawada and Cam Abbott also really stood out to me in a positive way.  A great weekend for Cornell where they easily could have dropped both games.  They found a way to win both night and in the situation they were in, that is enormous.  There is no doubt in my mind that they are vastly superior to both teams and I think we will see that when they come to Lynah later in the season.  When you're only playing 13 or 14 players on a Saturday night on the road, you are happy to get the win regardless of who they play.

[Trotsky]

Nice wrap, Ari.  Was McKee really that soft early in each game, or was it just a matter of right place, right time, for the scorers?

[calgARI '07]

[Q]Trotsky Wrote:

 Nice wrap, Ari.  Was McKee really that soft early in each game, or was it just a matter of right place, right time, for the scorers?[/q]

I don't think McKee played poorly, but he definitely isn't at his highest level.  He hasn't a come close to stopping either breakaway (both shorthanded) he has faced this year.  The D has been pretty bad so far this year, missing assignments with regularity.  Last night, the reasoning for that was obvious and all things considered weren't bad at all, but they struggled badly against Yale I thought.  I have concerns about the blueline this year not quite as much about McKee.   It is just a different type of unit that isn't quite as mobile as last year's and right now are not making the best decisions.  I have been pretty happy with Pokuluk and O'Byrne and I think they will only get better.  Glover has been decent too.  It's Gleed and Krantz who are really concerning me.  The former needs to raise the level of his game substantially while the latter has struggled as much as he did in the first half of last season.  I'd honestly like to see Salmela given a game next weekend to send him a message.  

[DeltaOne81]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:
O'Byrne... [was] extraordinary.[/q]

 ::twitch::  ::twitch::
 :-O
 ::help::

Not that I disagree, what I've seen of O'B has been pretty impressive so far, some nice defensive plays - not without some downside, but very promising. Still, I'm saving that quote

[calgARI '07]

I just got a chance to read the whole thread and I was surprised to see that Hynes wasn't definitively missed maybe prior to the weekend.  I don't see much point in talking about it since he's not here, but if there was ever any thought that Hynes was replacable and not an integral player to this team, then whoever thought that was flat out wrong.  You do not replace a Shane Hynes.  His ability along the boards and his dominant physical style was an enormous part of last year's team.  I think Sawada has raised his level of play substantially but obviously Cornell's top-to-bottom size and physical ability isn't anywhere near what it would have been with Hynes.  
Do I miss Hynes?  Of course, but he's gone and the personnel that they have has to get it done and I have confidence that they can and will.   Cornell found a way to win this weekend and that is very important.  This is a good team, but they aren't just going to walk all over every team, especially when you have three defensemen and ten forwards.  As far as physical play is concerned, I haven't seen a Schafer team physically beaten the way Yale beat them on Friday night.  To think that Hynes was not an enormous loss seems to be pretty naive.  

[calgARI '07]

Also, I forgot to say that I think Brown is far and away the worst ECACHL rink to watch a game, although I have not since one at Quinnipiac yet.  Boring rink, no fans, no atmosphere whatsoever.  

[Trotsky]

Meehan has that concrete-overturned-toilet-Kingdome feel.  It's not bad when it's full, but it sucks when it's empty.  It hosted NCAA finals in the mid 70s...  ::screwy:: \\

The worst barn under the worst conditiiosn is Thompson when it's empty, becase it is frikkin' FREEZING.  The worst sight lines are Ingalls.  I have no idea why it won architecture awards; it's the worst-designed sports facility I've ever been in.

[KP '06]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote:

 Also, I forgot to say that I think Brown is far and away the worst ECACHL rink to watch a game, although I have not since one at Quinnipiac yet.  Boring rink, no fans, no atmosphere whatsoever.  [/q]

Not to mention that, despite the Brown band not being there, the rink staff decided to enforce the NCAA rule about visiting bands only having 25 instruments. Yale also did this, but at least we knew it was coming -- they are usually dicks, while I've never seen Brown ever have a problem with 40-member bands. The end result was that 15 bandies made the trip but didn't get to play all weekend, while the remaining 25 traded time with Brown's talentless DJ.

I was half expecting Freebird by the 2nd period break.