Bracketology Sunday

Started by Beeeej, March 13, 2005, 12:05:00 PM

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Beeeej

Moy did a brand-new bracketology with last night's games in the mix, and we still get sent to Minneapolis, but with a very interesting Maine vs. Cornell and Dartmouth vs. Minnesota bracket - and four ECACHL teams in the tourney to one CCHA team, which is pretty fabulous.

Frankly, I'd much rather be in Amherst or Worcester, but I really don't think a weekend in Minnesota would be the worst thing.  At the very least, I'm pretty sure I'd have a place to stay for free and some local company at the games.  :-)

Beeeej
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Puck Icer

If we get sent to Minnesota, does that mean playing on a big sheet?

Beeeej

Yes, 200x100.  Lynah is 200x85, as is Alfond, Maine's home ice; Dartmouth's Thompson is 200x90.  So there would be a potential advantage for Minnesota in addition to the usual "home ice" advantages.

Beeeej
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Pace

Isn't there also an advantage to being used to smaller ice? I would imagine it makes the game a lot quicker. One's passes and shots have to be that little bit more accurate when the ice is comparatively more crowded.

Beeeej

Possibly, but the point being raised here is that with wider ice, Cornell's "shut down the skating lanes" style might not be as effective.  And frankly, our passes and our shots have never exactly been our strongest suit, so I'm not sure how wider ice would help on that count.  But then we did just fine in Lake Placid many times, so you never know.

Beeeej
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Jim Hyla

Sunday Morning's Brackets                 Last Week's Brackets

                                Minneapolis:
Dartmouth vs. Minnesota                   Quinnipiac vs. Colorado College
Maine vs. Cornell                         Ohio State vs. Minnesota

                                Grand Rapids:
Bemidji State vs. Colorado College       Bemidji State vs. Denver
North Dakota vs. Michigan                Dartmouth vs. North Dakota

                                Amherst:
Colgate vs. Denver                      New Hampshire vs. Michigan
New Hampshire vs. Harvard               Wisconsin vs. Cornell

                                Worcester:
Quinnipiac vs. Boston College            Northern Michigan vs. Boston College
Wisconsin vs. Boston University          Boston University vs. Harvard

Well, for those who worry, I can't help you.::worry:: **] But for the rest of us, just look at the changes from last week. Who knows what might happen in another week. We just have to keep winning and I suspect we might turn out OK. But then, who am I to say.::crazy::
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

KenP

If Cornell wins the ECAC tourney and Minnesota does not win the WCHA, we flip the TUC comparison.  Pretty sure we'd keep the RPI comparison, which means we win the comparison and move to a #1 seed.

If Cornell loses either game, we are not a #1 seed.  Then again, if we don't win the ECAC's, I don't think we would deserve it either.

calgARI '07

Of course if Cornell loses either game, they would likely drop from fifth meaning they would hopefully still avoid Minneapolis.  

Ken \'70

That's not true.  Even if we win out, as long as MN wins one of two next weekend, doesn't matter which one, they keep the TUC and the overall comparison, assuming AA loses tonight.  If AA wins tonight then Cornell can flip the MN comparison by winning out even if MN wins once next week.

As long as MI doesn't win out, then even a Cornell win and loss next week will flip the MN comparison if AA wins tonight and MN loses both next weekend (since they'll be playing CC and DU, that's entirely possible).

But Cornell can get a #1 seed without flipping MN, but they do have to win out.

1) If DU doesn't win out that comparison flips to Cornell.  There's then a 3 way tie for PWR #3 which Cornell wins by the RPI tie breaker, DU is 4th and is visiting MN's (#5) Regional in Minneapolis.

2) If BU stays alive tonight, and MN loses at least once next week:

   a) If BU wins out at the Fleet, or
   b) UNH beats BU in their semi then wins the HE Championship

the HE Champion (BU or UNH) would flip it's comparison with MN based on RPI.  By virtue of BC having lost this would flip the BC comparison with Cornell (change in RPI) and Cornell would have one more comparison win than MN, even though MN won the H2H with Cornell.






Ken \'70

[Q]Ken '70 Wrote:

 As long as MI doesn't win out, then even a Cornell win and loss next week will flip the MN comparison if AA wins tonight and MN loses both next weekend (since they'll be playing CC and DU, that's entirely possible).
[/q]

That should have read "...and possibly DU..."


calgARI '07

Wow.  You REALLY know the PWR inside and out.  So overall, what would say the chances of Cornell cracking the top four are based on them winning both games and then based on them splitting?

Jeff Hopkins '82

Ari:

I havent done all the math, but my general impression is if we don't win out, one of the four teams ahead of us will have to lose TWO games in their tourney for us to get a one seed, and I'm not sure it even happens then, cause Michigan might sneak in.  The most likely to do that, IMO, are Minny or BC.

calgARI '07

Is it safe to say that if Cornell wins both games next weekend, they will have a very good shot at a top four finish in the PWR?

jtwcornell91

This is gonna get a whole lot easier in about 8 hours...

Jim Hyla

[Q]jtwcornell91 Wrote: This is gonna get a whole lot easier in about 8 hours...[/q]And even easier still in about 8 days::looking::
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005