Unsung Hero

mjh89 · February 27, 2005, 10:06:37 PM

I don't know if Varteressian would be considered an unsung hero because I don't really think he does that much. Obviously there is no right answer to this question, but I'd give my vote to Carefoot. Great on the PK and on the forecheck.

Chabot · February 27, 2005, 10:08:48 PM

Gotta be Chabot .... look at that hair!!!!!!!!

puff · February 27, 2005, 10:15:32 PM

Couldn't have worded my thoughts better myself about special K.

As for pegs, he had a pretty good freshman year, struggled last year, seems to be pulling things together a bit this year. Does he suck, no, but there are many other players that i would place as the unsung hero. My vote would be either abbott or downs. Until Iggy got named as the shorthanded hero, and got his 5 (i think?) gwg i would have put him down because of his defensive contributions. But lately he's gotten a more deserving amount of praise so he doesn't fit the bill now either.

Maybe Carefoot?

The Rancor · February 28, 2005, 02:32:32 AM

[Q]Will Wrote:

[Q2]The Rancor Wrote:

[Q2]Dpperk29 Wrote:

I am with you on that one. I would even go as far as to say that Chabot is more valuable than Davenport.[/Q]
you better believe it, bub. hes our only back up this year and next. [/Q]
Do we know for a fact that there won't be another goalie recruited for next year?[/q]

we dont. its a guess mostly. i think all the best of the best goalies are taken right now. and this is cornell hockey. goaltender u. no new goalie next year unless they can get someone like marr off of transfer.

Lauren '06 · February 28, 2005, 02:54:13 AM

[Q]i think all the best of the best goalies are taken right now. and this is cornell hockey. goaltender u.[/q]
Which makes me ask again how Chabot slipped through the cracks and onto our bench. Was Schafer out for somebody who would be a back up for life, a. k. a. never good enough to quit the team (see Davenport for reference), or did they honestly expect him to perform better? God willing nothing happens to McKee, Chabot will graduate next year with what... something like 8 minutes of career playing time? Yow.

Jordan 04 · February 28, 2005, 09:10:19 AM

[Q]Section A Banshee Wrote:

God willing nothing happens to McKee, Chabot will graduate next year with what... something like 8 minutes of career playing time? Yow.[/q]

Maybe he'll start Senior Night

:-)

Lauren '06 · February 28, 2005, 09:54:08 AM

[Q]Jordan 04 Wrote:

[Q2]Section A Banshee Wrote:

God willing nothing happens to McKee, Chabot will graduate next year with what... something like 8 minutes of career playing time? Yow.[/Q]
Maybe he'll start Senior Night

[/q]
Schafer didn't even let Marr start senior night last year and Marr wasn't bad at all.

puff · February 28, 2005, 09:55:58 AM

But things were undecided at that point. I could see him starting Chabot if the win/loss doesn't affect seedings for the playoffs.

But say if we've say already locked up 1st place in the league going into the last home game, i could see Chabot getting the start for the amount of loyalty he's shown to the team. Sure, he's no Mckee, Lenevue, Underhill, etc. but he has had the loyalty to the TEAM (as the practice jerseys say don't they?) to stick around even without getting playing time. Thats more than someone did a couple years ago who got a lot of playing time. Or someone this year who didn't get much playing time although more playing time in his first semester than Chabot has gotten in his three years.

Give My Regards · February 28, 2005, 10:32:49 AM

[Q]Section A Banshee Wrote:
God willing nothing happens to McKee, Chabot will graduate next year with what... something like 8 minutes of career playing time? Yow.[/q]

Then again, he would have a better career GAA and sv% than McKee. Or LeNeveu and Dryden, for that matter.

:-)

Give My Regards · February 28, 2005, 10:35:44 AM

[Q]puff Wrote:

But things were undecided at that point. I could see him starting Chabot if the win/loss doesn't affect seedings for the playoffs.
[/q]

We already have a test case for this -- last Saturday night. With Cornell having already wrapped up the top spot in the ECACHL, the game against Clarkson was essentially meaningless for the Big Red as far as playoff seeding was concerned. McKee got the start, as he should have. The thing is, while a loss would have had no effect on Cornell's seeding in the ECACHL playoffs, it would have adversely affected the Big Red's potential seeding in the NCAA's.

Now, had the team been comfortably ahead, and had McKee not been working on another shutout, I could maybe see Chabot going in for the last five or ten minutes of the game, as Davenport did against Army.

I agree that Chabot should get some sort of recognition for the dedication and loyalty he has shown to the team, but if McKee is able to play and is not in the middle of some unimaginably hideous slump, McKee should be starting.

Jordan 04 · February 28, 2005, 11:27:15 AM

True, there may be no precedent for starting Chabot simply because he is a senior.

Although, I don't believe Schafer completely ignores sentimental factors. Pajerski did play (start?) at the end of last year in what certainly seemed to be a pat-on-the-back move by coach.

Lauren '06 · February 28, 2005, 11:40:20 AM

[Q]Jordan 04 Wrote:

True, there may be no precedent for starting Chabot simply because he is a senior.

Although, I don't believe Schafer completely ignores sentimental factors. Pajerski did play (start?) at the end of last year in what certainly seemed to be a pat-on-the-back move by coach.[/q]
Unfortunately for Chabot, the starting goaltender is slightly more crucial to winning than the sixth defenseman. I would love to see him start just once, though... maybe in next year's exhibition game? Just to see how he plays, and maybe if he's as horrible as his current playing time seems to dictate.

ugarte · February 28, 2005, 11:41:46 AM

[Q]Section A Banshee Wrote:

[Q2]Jordan 04 Wrote:

True, there may be no precedent for starting Chabot simply because he is a senior.

Although, I don't believe Schafer completely ignores sentimental factors. Pajerski did play (start?) at the end of last year in what certainly seemed to be a pat-on-the-back move by coach.[/Q]
Unfortunately for Chabot, the starting goaltender is slightly more crucial to winning than the sixth defenseman. I would love to see him start just once, though... maybe in next year's exhibition game? Just to see how he plays, and maybe if he's as horrible as his current playing time seems to dictate.[/q]His current playing time doesn't dictate anything. McKee's numbers dictate Chabot's playing time.

KeithK · February 28, 2005, 11:44:30 AM

[q]Which makes me ask again how Chabot slipped through the cracks and onto our bench. [/q]Recruiting is an inexact science. There have been lots of players who have come to Cornell with some expectation of success and haven't panned out. Goaltenders are no different.

Lauren '06 · February 28, 2005, 11:46:33 AM

[Q]ugarte Wrote:

[Q2]Section A Banshee Wrote:

[Q2]Jordan 04 Wrote:

True, there may be no precedent for starting Chabot simply because he is a senior.

Although, I don't believe Schafer completely ignores sentimental factors. Pajerski did play (start?) at the end of last year in what certainly seemed to be a pat-on-the-back move by coach.[/Q]
Unfortunately for Chabot, the starting goaltender is slightly more crucial to winning than the sixth defenseman. I would love to see him start just once, though... maybe in next year's exhibition game? Just to see how he plays, and maybe if he's as horrible as his current playing time seems to dictate.[/Q]
His current playing time doesn't dictate anything. McKee's numbers dictate Chabot's playing time.[/q]
If he's as bad as some of us seem to think, then. I amend my statement.