Unsung Hero

[KeithK]

IIRC, several times Schafer has started an all senior lineup for introductions, only to revert to regular lines when the game starts.  Schafer could start Chabot for the same reason and then pull him at the first stoppage.  I doubt he would do it though - afraid of messing up McKee somehow by breaking the routine.

[The Rancor]

[Q]ugarte Wrote:

 [Q2]Section A Banshee Wrote:

 [Q2]Jordan 04 Wrote:

 True, there may be no precedent for starting Chabot simply because he is a senior.

Although, I don't believe Schafer completely ignores sentimental factors.  Pajerski did play (start?) at the end of last year in what certainly seemed to be a pat-on-the-back move by coach.[/Q]
Unfortunately for Chabot, the starting goaltender is slightly more crucial to winning than the sixth defenseman.  I would love to see him start just once, though... maybe in next year's exhibition game?  Just to see how he plays, and maybe if he's as horrible as his current playing time seems to dictate.[/Q]
His current playing time doesn't dictate anything. McKee's numbers dictate Chabot's playing time.[/q]

exactly. plus who do you think is the other goalie in practice?  he sees plenty of quality shots during the week. as i've said before, if he couldn't do the job, he wouldn't be here. i'm not saying he's some how slighted, because as we all know, mckee and lenny were both amazing, are amazing, and chabbot is the clear #2 at this point in his and mckee's career. but who in the NCAAs isn't second or worse then our #1 (well, #31)

[billhoward]

[Q]calgARI '07 Wrote: No, they [Conrell] have been looking for a goalie for next year and almost got one, but he committed elsewhere.  I'd imagine they're still looking.[/q]

From what you've heard, how problematic is it in recruiting a goalie that he's unlikely to see ice time until junior year - given McKee appears headed toward breaking Lou Gehrig's record?

There was discussion elsehwhere (here? USCHO?) that players have much better information about team quality and depth, and so  if say a team has four quality centers who are freshmen-through-junior, that tends to make a good HS or Junior center look elsewhere.

If Schafer brings in a goalie this fall after losing his #1 choice, it sounds as if he's really going to be hunting *hard* for a goalie two years from now and that means anyone who comes in next fall as an insurance goalie is going to be opening and closing the bench door a lot, if that.

[KeithK]

[q]given McKee appears headed toward breaking Lou Gehrig's record?[/q]Gehrig played hockey?  I guess we did play the Lions back in 1921.  Maybe Larrupin' Lou was in goal for Cornell's 7-3 win...

[RichH]

And the Columbia club team is being coached somehow by Alexei Kasotonov, former CCCP Red Army star defensman.

http://www.collegesports.com/cgi-bin/csvideo.cgi?schools=&sport=ICE+HOCKEY+-+MEN%27S

Right now, the video is 3rd from the bottom.

Also, some articles in the Columbia paper:
http://www.columbiaspectator.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/10/14/416e3c1fd8040
http://www.columbiaspectator.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/10/14/416e3e55d9fe5

[Q]"I know it's not easy to be a player and a student. First it's about academics," he said. "But there are examples like Harvard or Cornell that have top-level academics as well as good hockey teams. Why not Columbia? Especially that it's New York City, which has a great tradition with the New York Rangers."[/Q]

[madhatter]

No knock on Jan, but he started due to suspensions and injuries to Cornell's starters.  Additionally, he was a junior last season, so the start wasn't for sentimental reasons as your post implies.  Schafer plays his best available players.

[calgARI '07]

[Q]billhoward Wrote:

 [Q2]calgARI '07 Wrote: No, they  have been looking for a goalie for next year and almost got one, but he committed elsewhere.  I'd imagine they're still looking.[/Q]
From what you've heard, how problematic is it in recruiting a goalie that he's unlikely to see ice time until junior year - given McKee appears headed toward breaking Lou Gehrig's record?

There was discussion elsehwhere (here? USCHO?) that players have much better information about team quality and depth, and so  if say a team has four quality centers who are freshmen-through-junior, that tends to make a good HS or Junior center look elsewhere.

If Schafer brings in a goalie this fall after losing his #1 choice, it sounds as if he's really going to be hunting *hard* for a goalie two years from now and that means anyone who comes in next fall as an insurance goalie is going to be opening and closing the bench door a lot, if that.

[/q]

I think that McKee's successor will be a freshman in '06.  I'm thinking the reason the recently lost goalie chose the school he did was because their current number one will be a senior next season.  It's a pretty tough sell to any top notch goalie that he isn't going to be the full time starter until he's a junior.  Even though it seems like McKee won't move, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a freshman goalie in '06 get some games if he is legit as LeNeveu did with Underhill.  I still expect a goalie of average caliber to come in next season to at least be the third goalie (more likely the backup though) and then he would battle the '06 freshman for the backup spot when McKee is a senior.

[Will]

I thought Schafer usually liked to play goalies in tandem anyway.  He just needs to find another goalie at or above McKee's level.

[Josh '99]

[Q]Will Wrote:
I thought Schafer usually liked to play goalies in tandem anyway.  He just needs to find another goalie at or above McKee's level.[/q]Sounds like a good plan to me.  Any idea where we can find one?  :-P

[Trotsky]

[Q]Will Wrote:
I thought Schafer usually liked to play goalies in tandem anyway.  He just needs to find another goalie at or above McKee's level.[/q]

That may take a while.

The optimal outcome, IMHO, would be a pair of strong freshmen in Fall '06, who would then have one season of light duty to break in and then three years to push one another / share the burden.  A pair like Harvard's national championship team of Allain Roy and Chuckie Hughes (or the Cornell duo of Corrie D'Alessio and Jim Crozier) would be just fine.

[Dpperk29]

you know. something just hit me, what about Jon Gleed as the unsung hero? he plays solid day in and say out, doesn;t make alot of mistakes, just an all around good player.

[Josh '99]

[Q]Dpperk29 Wrote:
you know. something just hit me, what about Jon Gleed as the unsung hero? he plays solid day in and say out, doesn;t make alot of mistakes, just an all around good player.[/q]Not a bad call.  He's displayed a lot of offensive confidence as well.

[Dpperk29]

basically what it comes down to, is this team is not full of heros. This team is full of good players who do there jobs game in, game out. some get the credit, some don't. but the team does not rely on one person.

[billhoward]

Goalies are like quarterbacks: Next to impossible to have two great ones at the same time. One of the two will demand a trade (pro QB) ... leave school ... not come to the school.

Conversely, you can have 2-3 great pitchers with no problem and the only question is who gets the Game 1-4-7 starting call.

[KeithK]

[q]Conversely, you can have 2-3 great pitchers with no problem and the only question is who gets the Game 1-4-7 starting call.[/q]Not even 1-4-7 anymore as pitchers these days are too weenie to start on three days rest.