Hockey at Fenway?

Started by gtsully, February 19, 2005, 10:19:59 AM

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DeltaOne81

[quote Rich S]Anyone calling one of the truly historic and great stadiums in the world "a disgusting hole" should be crushed.[/quote]

I agree that "disguisting hole" is too far - much too far. I hate the Yankees, but have been to Yankee Stadium. I don't think there's anything wrong with it, but its your standard modernish-looking, large stadium... with some nice touches, like Monument Park.

But it is nowhere near the visual icon of Fenway or a Wrigely (note I just said visual, Yankee Stadium is definitely a historical icon). You know, the kind of quirkly style they tried to replicate in places like Minute Maid Park, which I won't comment on as I've never been there, but whether you like the new replica of the style or not, the originals are classics.

Trotsky

Yankee Stadium is beautiful.  I used to go there to watch the Mariners lose in the '70s.  It's St. Peter's Cathedral.

I don't care for the Yankees (who can get a hard-on for the Pentagon?), and I'd far prefer to spend an afternoon amidst Wrigley's or Fenway's charming dilapidation, but The Bronx Bedpan is the most elegant venue in America's most elegant game.

Now if you want a disgusting hole, you need go no further than a few miles east, where my beloved Amazins toil in their aptly-named neighborhood.

Rosey

[quote Trotsky]Yankee Stadium is beautiful.[/quote]
I'm a Yankee fan, and even I think the Stadium is a shithole.

Give me Camden Yards any day.  Beautiful stadium, and every seat is good.  It's like Fenway done right.

Kyle
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ugarte

[quote krose]
Give me Camden Yards any day.  Beautiful stadium, and every seat is good.  It's like Fenway done right.[/quote]I agree that Camden Yards is gorgeous. I don't think all seats are great, though. They didn't curve the stands well, so the farther from the plate you sit, the more into the outfield you look without turning in your seat.

That said ... Boog's. ::dribble:: (Perhaps not the best 'cue anywhere, but certainly the best in a ballpark.)

I have often told people that if there is baseball in heaven, the stadium is based on Wrigley. Best place to watch an MLB game that I've been to. I sure would have liked to watch from the overhang in Tigers Stadium, though.

Rosey

[quote ugarte]They didn't curve the stands well, so the farther from the plate you sit, the more into the outfield you look without turning in your seat.[/quote]
Clearly you haven't experienced the seats beyond the third base line at Fenway, because they face straight ahead, meaning that you need to crane your neck almost 90 degrees to see home plate.  It's worst in the corner.  By contrast, none of the seats at CY are anywhere near that bad.  But, sure, they probably could have done a better job... still, it's a whole lot better than Fenway. :)

Cheers,
Kyle
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ugarte

[quote krose][quote ugarte]They didn't curve the stands well, so the farther from the plate you sit, the more into the outfield you look without turning in your seat.[/quote]
Clearly you haven't experienced the seats beyond the third base line at Fenway, because they face straight ahead, meaning that you need to crane your neck almost 90 degrees to see home plate.  It's worst in the corner.  By contrast, none of the seats at CY are anywhere near that bad.  But, sure, they probably could have done a better job... still, it's a whole lot better than Fenway. :)
[/quote]In fact I have not been to Fenway. Even if a neck cramp is the cost of watching a game, it is still a high priority. (Whoops! Forgot to close the tag.)

DeltaOne81

[quote krose][quote ugarte]They didn't curve the stands well, so the farther from the plate you sit, the more into the outfield you look without turning in your seat.[/quote]
Clearly you haven't experienced the seats beyond the third base line at Fenway, because they face straight ahead, meaning that you need to crane your neck almost 90 degrees to see home plate.  It's worst in the corner.  By contrast, none of the seats at CY are anywhere near that bad.  But, sure, they probably could have done a better job... still, it's a whole lot better than Fenway. :)
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The setas in the back right corner in Fenway are awful. Even the ones that face the right way.

But "beyond third base" is a little strong, you have to get decently far out before its much of an issue though. Save yourself some money anyway and sit in the bleachers. Very good few and doesn't feel far out at all.

Rosey

[quote DeltaOne81]Save yourself some money anyway and sit in the bleachers. Very good few and doesn't feel far out at all.[/quote]
Unfortunately, the Yankees cap gets more boos (and potentially thrown beers) in the bleachers than it does in the regular sections. :)

Kyle
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Trotsky

Do not sit in the Fenway CF bleachers with a visitors' cap.  I've been threatened for wearing a Seattle cap.  Not exactly a hot rivalry.

However, if you go incognito, and you can stand the stench and behavior of 750 drunken BU frat boys, the CF bleachers on a Sunday day game are the best6 place to sit in Fenway.

Next is "oh shit corner," which juts out beyond 3B right up to the LF foul line.  I sat there for a Baseball Beanpot.  Aluminum bats.  Closest I ever want to come to playing the hot corner.  But it keeps one alert.

ugarte

[quote Trotsky]Do not sit in the Fenway CF bleachers with a visitors' cap.[/quote]Same thing at the shrine in the Bronx. I saw more fights prompted by nothing more than the temerity of coming into the upper deck with an Orioles hat. One guy even threw his own hat over the railing when he heard the whole section exhorting the people on the aisles to "get the hat... get the hat..."

It was a playoff game (the Jeffrey Meier game, actually), but still.

Trotsky

Probably doesn't beat wearing an opposing jersey to a Raiders or Eagles game, however.  I dunno about the new football stadium, but the Vet used to have its own lockup, right on site.

jtwcornell91

[quote Trotsky]Do not sit in the Fenway CF bleachers with a visitors' cap.  I've been threatened for wearing a Seattle cap.  Not exactly a hot rivalry.[/quote]

I have, however, sat in the bleachers at Candlestick wearing a Marlins cap and survived.  (I think it helped that the Giants crushed the Fish that day.)  I also saw a guy wear a Dodgers cap to a SF-LA game.  It was a batting helmet.

Rosey

[quote Trotsky]Do not sit in the Fenway CF bleachers with a visitors' cap.[/quote]
Well, I did this past September.  I got a bunch of boos and a resounding "Yan-kees-suck! Yan-kees-suck!" chant, but since I was in the middle of a bunch of other Akamai people, there weren't any belligerent, drunken Sox fans close enough to me to start any real shit.

Kyle
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KeithK

[quote jtwcornell91]I have, however, sat in the bleachers at Candlestick wearing a Marlins cap and survived.  (I think it helped that the Giants crushed the Fish that day.)  I also saw a guy wear a Dodgers cap to a SF-LA game.  It was a batting helmet.[/quote]I went to a Giants-Dodgers game in SF recently with a couple of Dodgers fans.  There was a little bit of back and forth, but nothing worth mentioning.  Great historic rivalry and all, but Northern California can't hold a candle to anything back east for sports enthusiasm (Raiders fans excluded).

KeithK

[q]I have often told people that if there is baseball in heaven, the stadium is based on Wrigley. Best place to watch an MLB game that I've been to. I sure would have liked to watch from the overhang in Tigers Stadium, though.[/q]Tiger Stadium is right up there among my favorite places to watch a game (only saw one, but still). Maybe it's because I grew up in NYC/Yankee Stadium but I like the big old yards.  That's why I can say that I think I might've put the pre-renovation House That Ruth Built higher than Wrigley or Fenway.