HARVARD SUCKS

Started by Josh '99, December 01, 2003, 06:31:07 PM

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Beeeej

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Quote from: billhowardMerrick Garland Harvard '74 / Harvard Law '77 would replace Antonin Scalia Harvard Law '60.

Scalia also went to sucks law.

::smashfreak::
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

LGR14

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: billhowardMerrick Garland Harvard '74 / Harvard Law '77 would replace Antonin Scalia Harvard Law '60. He would join six others who attended Harvard Law:
1 John Roberts (also Harvard undergrad)
2 Stephen Breyer
3 Anthony Kennedy
4 Stephen Breyer
5 Elena Kagan
6 Ruth Bader Ginsburg '54 (attended Harvard Law, degree from Columbia)

Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, and Sonia Sotomayor are Yale Law.

Enough. If only Douglas Ginsburg '70 didn't have such a checkered background. Imagine that: Cornellian in the 1960s, smoked weed. Probably wore bell-bottom jeans and had a red or UV mood light that also cleared up his complexion. Who'd have imagined him lighting up.

Scalia also went to sucks law.

This has probably already been done, but someone working on a sociology PhD should do a similar analysis of lower-level federal courts. These are said to be the spawning grounds for the SCOTUS. It would be interesting to see to what degree this Ivy League (actually HY) inner circle is enforced at the lower levels.

The name of the game for law schools is the T14. So you're most likely to see Yale, Harvard, Chicago, UVA, Penn Stanford, etc. than you are Cornell.
But there's much greater disparity at the lower levels.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: LGR14
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: billhowardMerrick Garland Harvard '74 / Harvard Law '77 would replace Antonin Scalia Harvard Law '60. He would join six others who attended Harvard Law:
1 John Roberts (also Harvard undergrad)
2 Stephen Breyer
3 Anthony Kennedy
4 Stephen Breyer
5 Elena Kagan
6 Ruth Bader Ginsburg '54 (attended Harvard Law, degree from Columbia)

Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, and Sonia Sotomayor are Yale Law.

Enough. If only Douglas Ginsburg '70 didn't have such a checkered background. Imagine that: Cornellian in the 1960s, smoked weed. Probably wore bell-bottom jeans and had a red or UV mood light that also cleared up his complexion. Who'd have imagined him lighting up.

Scalia also went to sucks law.

This has probably already been done, but someone working on a sociology PhD should do a similar analysis of lower-level federal courts. These are said to be the spawning grounds for the SCOTUS. It would be interesting to see to what degree this Ivy League (actually HY) inner circle is enforced at the lower levels.

The name of the game for law schools is the T14. So you're most likely to see Yale, Harvard, Chicago, UVA, Penn Stanford, etc. than you are Cornell.
But there's much greater disparity at the lower levels.

538 has already looked into this. "Just over a quarter of circuit court judges attended either Harvard or Yale Law School."
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

LGR14

Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: LGR14
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: billhowardMerrick Garland Harvard '74 / Harvard Law '77 would replace Antonin Scalia Harvard Law '60. He would join six others who attended Harvard Law:
1 John Roberts (also Harvard undergrad)
2 Stephen Breyer
3 Anthony Kennedy
4 Stephen Breyer
5 Elena Kagan
6 Ruth Bader Ginsburg '54 (attended Harvard Law, degree from Columbia)

Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, and Sonia Sotomayor are Yale Law.

Enough. If only Douglas Ginsburg '70 didn't have such a checkered background. Imagine that: Cornellian in the 1960s, smoked weed. Probably wore bell-bottom jeans and had a red or UV mood light that also cleared up his complexion. Who'd have imagined him lighting up.

Scalia also went to sucks law.

This has probably already been done, but someone working on a sociology PhD should do a similar analysis of lower-level federal courts. These are said to be the spawning grounds for the SCOTUS. It would be interesting to see to what degree this Ivy League (actually HY) inner circle is enforced at the lower levels.

The name of the game for law schools is the T14. So you're most likely to see Yale, Harvard, Chicago, UVA, Penn Stanford, etc. than you are Cornell.
But there's much greater disparity at the lower levels.

538 has already looked into this. "Just over a quarter of circuit court judges attended either Harvard or Yale Law School."

Also a much older list, but this gives some more of the breakdown: http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2004/04/where_federal_j.html

billhoward

Another statistical oddity:

5 Catholics on the court, had been 6 (vs. 22% of US population)
3 might be 4 Jews on the court (vs 2.2% of the population)

Swampy

Quote from: LGR14
Quote from: Jim Hyla
Quote from: LGR14
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: billhowardMerrick Garland Harvard '74 / Harvard Law '77 would replace Antonin Scalia Harvard Law '60. He would join six others who attended Harvard Law:
1 John Roberts (also Harvard undergrad)
2 Stephen Breyer
3 Anthony Kennedy
4 Stephen Breyer
5 Elena Kagan
6 Ruth Bader Ginsburg '54 (attended Harvard Law, degree from Columbia)

Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, and Sonia Sotomayor are Yale Law.

Enough. If only Douglas Ginsburg '70 didn't have such a checkered background. Imagine that: Cornellian in the 1960s, smoked weed. Probably wore bell-bottom jeans and had a red or UV mood light that also cleared up his complexion. Who'd have imagined him lighting up.

Scalia also went to sucks law.

This has probably already been done, but someone working on a sociology PhD should do a similar analysis of lower-level federal courts. These are said to be the spawning grounds for the SCOTUS. It would be interesting to see to what degree this Ivy League (actually HY) inner circle is enforced at the lower levels.

The name of the game for law schools is the T14. So you're most likely to see Yale, Harvard, Chicago, UVA, Penn Stanford, etc. than you are Cornell.
But there's much greater disparity at the lower levels.

538 has already looked into this. "Just over a quarter of circuit court judges attended either Harvard or Yale Law School."

Also a much older list, but this gives some more of the breakdown: http://leiterreports.typepad.com/blog/2004/04/where_federal_j.html

Interesting. Geography seems to play a role too. Not all that surprising, if it does.

Roy 82

Quote from: billhowardAnother statistical oddity:

5 Catholics on the court, had been 6 (vs. 22% of US population)
3 might be 4 Jews on the court (vs 2.2% of the population)

It's 87% likely that we are in the off-season and so time for some good old-fashioned thread drift:
I just want to point out that these religious labels are in some cases more accurately ethnic or social group designations rather than actual beliefs. We still don't live in a world where politicians can be openly free thinkers, but I suspect that many of the justices don't actually base their morality and decisions on modified translations of some of the mythology of ancient middle eastern tribes.

Greenberg '97

From last night's Yale-Baylor game:

Swampy

Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: billhowardAnother statistical oddity:

5 Catholics on the court, had been 6 (vs. 22% of US population)
3 might be 4 Jews on the court (vs 2.2% of the population)

It's 87% likely that we are in the off-season and so time for some good old-fashioned thread drift:
I just want to point out that these religious labels are in some cases more accurately ethnic or social group designations rather than actual beliefs. We still don't live in a world where politicians can be openly free thinkers, but I suspect that many of the justices don't actually base their morality and decisions on modified translations of some of the mythology of ancient middle eastern tribes.

May be true for many on the SCOTUS, perhaps because of some law of large numbers (8-9 people on the court, depending on how you count). But there is only one POTUS, and one of the remaining candidates for this office does indeed appear to base morality and decisions on the mythology of ancient middle-eastern tribes, as well as that of wandering tribes of the twenty-first century. This candidate's candidacy does seem to be based, at least in part, on the belief that this is the time to "take dominion" over the government, as according to scripture. ::scared::

KeithK

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Roy 82
Quote from: billhowardAnother statistical oddity:

5 Catholics on the court, had been 6 (vs. 22% of US population)
3 might be 4 Jews on the court (vs 2.2% of the population)

It's 87% likely that we are in the off-season and so time for some good old-fashioned thread drift:
I just want to point out that these religious labels are in some cases more accurately ethnic or social group designations rather than actual beliefs. We still don't live in a world where politicians can be openly free thinkers, but I suspect that many of the justices don't actually base their morality and decisions on modified translations of some of the mythology of ancient middle eastern tribes.

May be true for many on the SCOTUS, perhaps because of some law of large numbers (8-9 people on the court, depending on how you count). But there is only one POTUS, and one of the remaining candidates for this office does indeed appear to base morality and decisions on the mythology of ancient middle-eastern tribes, as well as that of wandering tribes of the twenty-first century. This candidate's candidacy does seem to be based, at least in part, on the belief that this is the time to "take dominion" over the government, as according to scripture. ::scared::
Guys, there's a perfectly good forum just a few clicks away for political stuff.

Trotsky

At the risk of being hall monitor, I agree with Keith.  Please post politics elsewhere -- might I recommend any of dozens (hundreds) of USCHO threads.

KeithK

Quote from: TrotskyAt the risk of being hall monitor, I agree with Keith.  Please post politics elsewhere -- might I recommend any of dozens (hundreds) of USCHO threads.
Feel free to keep it among friends.  Just do it in JSID.  Lets keep this thread pure in it's (perhaps silly and tired) denigration of a horrible institution in Cambridge and their hockey team.

Swampy

Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: TrotskyAt the risk of being hall monitor, I agree with Keith.  Please post politics elsewhere -- might I recommend any of dozens (hundreds) of USCHO threads.
Feel free to keep it among friends.  Just do it in JSID.  Lets keep this thread pure in it's (perhaps silly and tired) denigration of a horrible institution in Cambridge and their hockey team.

Fair enough.

But before moving over, let's just recap the drift. On 3/16, Bill Howard pointed out that Merrick Garland, Sucks '74, was nominated to replace Antonin Scalia, Sucks '60. Currently there are 3 Yalies and 5 Suckies on the court, and Garland would bring it to 3 + 6. I then wondered out loud how widespread this was in the federal judiciary. LGR14 answered this with references, which boiled the answer down to "very, very widespread." Then Jim Hyla noticed a similar disproportionality in religious composition, but Roy 82 quickly pointed out this is probably more indicative of identity than belief. And I just observed that a certain Princeton '92 grad running for president seems very rooted in belief.

You know, this isn't hockey. But stepping back, it sure does look like a team sport, doesn't it?

OK. I'm out of here. ::bolt::

RichH

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: KeithK
Quote from: TrotskyAt the risk of being hall monitor, I agree with Keith.  Please post politics elsewhere -- might I recommend any of dozens (hundreds) of USCHO threads.
Feel free to keep it among friends.  Just do it in JSID.  Lets keep this thread pure in it's (perhaps silly and tired) denigration of a horrible institution in Cambridge and their hockey team.

Fair enough.

But before moving over, let's just recap the drift. On 3/16, Bill Howard pointed out that Merrick Garland, Sucks '74, was nominated to replace Antonin Scalia, Sucks '60. Currently there are 3 Yalies and 5 Suckies on the court, and Garland would bring it to 3 + 6. I then wondered out loud how widespread this was in the federal judiciary. LGR14 answered this with references, which boiled the answer down to "very, very widespread." Then Jim Hyla noticed a similar disproportionality in religious composition, but Roy 82 quickly pointed out this is probably more indicative of identity than belief. And I just observed that a certain Princeton '92 grad running for president seems very rooted in belief.

You know, this isn't hockey. But stepping back, it sure does look like a team sport, doesn't it?

OK. I'm out of here. ::bolt::

So we can blame billhoward since he initiated the impossible angle of that place actually excelling in something. Clearly lies.

Scersk '97

A bid, a 1st-round exit. Like death and taxes.