HARVARD SUCKS

[French Rage]

Time for me to update my signature?

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

A bid, a 1st-round exit. Like death and taxes.

Beanpot II

[redice]

Well, at least they didn't disappoint the crowd here.....    And, who says there's no consolation game in the NCAA's....;-)

[Iceberg]

Vesey testing out free agency, much to the irritation of Nashville GM David Poile.

[css228]

Vesey testing out free agency, much to the irritation of Nashville GM David Poile.

That's really on Poile for counting on Vesey joining the team for the playoffs and not doing anything at the deadline.. Its in the CBA and he should. I have no problem with a player who has done 4 years in college since his draft year deciding to use the leverage the CBA gives him to find a better opportunity elsewhere. Especially because he's turning down an opportunity to burn a year of his ELC to do so.

[BearLover]

Vesey testing out free agency, much to the irritation of Nashville GM David Poile.

That's really on Poile for counting on Vesey joining the team for the playoffs and not doing anything at the deadline.. Its in the CBA and he should. I have no problem with a player who has done 4 years in college since his draft year deciding to use the leverage the CBA gives him to find a better opportunity elsewhere. Especially because he's turning down an opportunity to burn a year of his ELC to do so.

That article says Vesey made numerous verbal commitments to join the Predators.

[KeithK]

Vesey testing out free agency, much to the irritation of Nashville GM David Poile.

That's really on Poile for counting on Vesey joining the team for the playoffs and not doing anything at the deadline.. Its in the CBA and he should. I have no problem with a player who has done 4 years in college since his draft year deciding to use the leverage the CBA gives him to find a better opportunity elsewhere. Especially because he's turning down an opportunity to burn a year of his ELC to do so.

That article says Vesey made numerous verbal commitments to join the Predators.

That's the key point. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the kid using his leverage. But if he made verbal commitments it's unethical.

But he's from SUCKS so what do you expect?

[css228]

Vesey testing out free agency, much to the irritation of Nashville GM David Poile.

That's really on Poile for counting on Vesey joining the team for the playoffs and not doing anything at the deadline.. Its in the CBA and he should. I have no problem with a player who has done 4 years in college since his draft year deciding to use the leverage the CBA gives him to find a better opportunity elsewhere. Especially because he's turning down an opportunity to burn a year of his ELC to do so.

That article says Vesey made numerous verbal commitments to join the Predators.

A verbal commitment is not a signed contract. Technically you can have an oral contract, but those can't be for longer than a year. Point being until he signed on the dotted line, it was his right to change his mind. We don't call teams awful when they tell a guy he's going to be a big part of their future and then trade him. I don't really see the difference.

[KeithK]

Vesey testing out free agency, much to the irritation of Nashville GM David Poile.

That's really on Poile for counting on Vesey joining the team for the playoffs and not doing anything at the deadline.. Its in the CBA and he should. I have no problem with a player who has done 4 years in college since his draft year deciding to use the leverage the CBA gives him to find a better opportunity elsewhere. Especially because he's turning down an opportunity to burn a year of his ELC to do so.

That article says Vesey made numerous verbal commitments to join the Predators.

A verbal commitment is not a signed contract. Technically you can have an oral contract, but those can't be for longer than a year. Point being until he signed on the dotted line, it was his right to change his mind. We don't call teams awful when they tell a guy he's going to be a big part of their future and then trade him. I don't really see the difference.

Just because you have the right to do something doesn't make it right.  I'm not saying he's the devil incarnate for doing this.  but I do think it's fair to criticize this kind of action.

[css228]

Vesey testing out free agency, much to the irritation of Nashville GM David Poile.

That's really on Poile for counting on Vesey joining the team for the playoffs and not doing anything at the deadline.. Its in the CBA and he should. I have no problem with a player who has done 4 years in college since his draft year deciding to use the leverage the CBA gives him to find a better opportunity elsewhere. Especially because he's turning down an opportunity to burn a year of his ELC to do so.

That article says Vesey made numerous verbal commitments to join the Predators.

A verbal commitment is not a signed contract. Technically you can have an oral contract, but those can't be for longer than a year. Point being until he signed on the dotted line, it was his right to change his mind. We don't call teams awful when they tell a guy he's going to be a big part of their future and then trade him. I don't really see the difference.

Just because you have the right to do something doesn't make it right.  I'm not saying he's the devil incarnate for doing this.  but I do think it's fair to criticize this kind of action.

I mean we've only heard Poile's side of the story. Maybe he didn't explicitly promise the Perds the way Polie said. Maybe he wants to play hockey with his brother in Toronto. Perhaps he wants to play for the Bruins, for whom he rooted as a child, or maybe he has some other completely legit reason to want to sign elsewhere. Way I see it, he's not in the wrong either. He owes the Predators nothing.

[ugarte]

Vesey testing out free agency, much to the irritation of Nashville GM David Poile.

That's really on Poile for counting on Vesey joining the team for the playoffs and not doing anything at the deadline.. Its in the CBA and he should. I have no problem with a player who has done 4 years in college since his draft year deciding to use the leverage the CBA gives him to find a better opportunity elsewhere. Especially because he's turning down an opportunity to burn a year of his ELC to do so.

That article says Vesey made numerous verbal commitments to join the Predators.

A verbal commitment is not a signed contract. Technically you can have an oral contract, but those can't be for longer than a year. Point being until he signed on the dotted line, it was his right to change his mind. We don't call teams awful when they tell a guy he's going to be a big part of their future and then trade him. I don't really see the difference.

Just because you have the right to do something doesn't make it right.  I'm not saying he's the devil incarnate for doing this.  but I do think it's fair to criticize this kind of action.

I mean we've only heard Poile's side of the story. Maybe he didn't explicitly promise the Perds the way Polie said. Maybe he wants to play hockey with his brother in Toronto. Perhaps he wants to play for the Bruins, for whom he rooted as a child, or maybe he has some other completely legit reason to want to sign elsewhere. Way I see it, he's not in the wrong either. He owes the Predators nothing.

Maybe he thought their opening contract offer was such shit he decided he'd rather unwind after an intense senior year of college hockey, take his finals, graduate and exercise his rights under the CBA rather than sign a bad deal and join the Preds.

Never demand punctilious honor of one person in a system where the other side can never be counted on to act honorably.

[KeithK]

Never demand punctilious honor of one person in a system where the other side can never be counted on to act honorably.

Why not? I have every right to hold people that I will never meet and really have no great interest in to whatever standards I want, however unreasonable they may or may not be.

Besides he's from Harvard.

[sah67]

Somewhat Sucks-related:
Delay-of-game penalties due to objects being thrown on the ice are now becoming a big concern for Jaromir Jagr and the Panthers:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/jaromir-jagr-worried-rivals-will-hire-rat-throwing-fans-for-florida-penalties-073139159.html

[RichH]

I have every right to say that he's a Jerkface for absolutely no reason.

[css228]

I have every right to say that he's a Jerkface for absolutely no reason.

I mean he went to Harvard so I'd say that's reason enough right there :-P