HARVARD SUCKS

Started by Josh '99, December 01, 2003, 06:31:07 PM

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RichH

This is why using joke threads as the de facto game thread is usually not a good idea.

BearLover

I'm not so sure a whole lot has changed between the beginning of the season and now, besides our luck.  We were getting outshot then, and we're getting outshot now.  The advanced stats suggested we were a mediocre team all along, and our recent results have borne that out.  The only real identifiable change I have noticed is that Gillam's play has been worse.  He stole some games early (BU, Prov especially), but has been struggling with rebound control and playing the puck behind the net as of late.  I was hopeful that, despite all signs pointing to the fact that we'd fall back down to earth, our injured players returning would counteract that regression to the mean.  That hasn't happened, unfortunately.  Starrett and Buckles (the two highest draft picks on the team) being healthy scratches against Harvard doesn't bode too well as far as developing NHL talent is concerned.

Trotsky

Quote from: RichHThis is why using joke threads as the de facto game thread is usually not a good idea.

Wait, what?

Harvard sucks.

There.  All fixed.  As you were.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: BearLoverI'm not so sure a whole lot has changed between the beginning of the season and now, besides our luck.  We were getting outshot then, and we're getting outshot now.  The advanced stats suggested we were a mediocre team all along, and our recent results have borne that out.  The only real identifiable change I have noticed is that Gillam's play has been worse.  He stole some games early (BU, Prov especially), but has been struggling with rebound control and playing the puck behind the net as of late.  I was hopeful that, despite all signs pointing to the fact that we'd fall back down to earth, our injured players returning would counteract that regression to the mean.  That hasn't happened, unfortunately.  Starrett and Buckles (the two highest draft picks on the team) being healthy scratches against Harvard doesn't bode too well as far as developing NHL talent is concerned.

Unless you know why they were scratched I don't think your conclusion is valid. I can think of reasons why being a healthy scratch for a game, or more, would be useful in development. If we had the number of players to do it, some healthy scratches in the past 3 years might have been helpful.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim HylaUnless you know why they were scratched I don't think your conclusion is valid.

In the pre-game interview Schafer strongly implied that Starrett and Buckles were benched due to lack of hustle and/or discipline against Dartmouth.  I remember it because from what I saw of Buckles on Friday I found it very surprising.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaUnless you know why they were scratched I don't think your conclusion is valid.

In the pre-game interview Schafer strongly implied that Starrett and Buckles were benched due to lack of hustle and/or discipline against Dartmouth.  I remember it because from what I saw of Buckles on Friday I found it very surprising.

Thanks, that could be helpful in their development. Work ethic is obviously very important, especially when you need everyone to contribute. When you bench some of your "better" players, it also sends a signal to the rest of the team. As I said before, I wish he could have done that the last few years. Oh well, water over the dam.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim HylaThanks, that could be helpful in their development. Work ethic is obviously very important, especially when you need everyone to contribute. When you bench some of your "better" players, it also sends a signal to the rest of the team. As I said before, I wish he could have done that the last few years. Oh well, water over the dam.

Schafer also said (IIRC in the same pre-game) that now that the team is healthy again all the players have to learn that they will be accountable since there's a "next man up" for each position.

I'm not sure whether this means Lalor and Otterman are healthy and just on the bottom of the ladder right now, or whether they are unhealthy but Schafer's thinks the team now has a critical mass of players to start enforcing accountability.

BTW, I loved Freschi being back in the lineup and hope he sticks.  He is such a great pest and I think he helps keep the team from going into coma when bad things happen.

Jim Hyla

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaThanks, that could be helpful in their development. Work ethic is obviously very important, especially when you need everyone to contribute. When you bench some of your "better" players, it also sends a signal to the rest of the team. As I said before, I wish he could have done that the last few years. Oh well, water over the dam.

Schafer also said (IIRC in the same pre-game) that now that the team is healthy again all the players have to learn that they will be accountable since there's a "next man up" for each position.

I'm not sure whether this means Lalor and Otterman are healthy and just on the bottom of the ladder right now, or whether they are unhealthy but Schafer's thinks the team now has a critical mass of players to start enforcing accountability.

BTW, I loved Freschi being back in the lineup and hope he sticks.  He is such a great pest and I think he helps keep the team from going into coma when bad things happen.

Agree, again. He just needs to stop taking stupid penalties.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

Trotsky

Quote from: Jim HylaAgree, again. He just needs to stop taking stupid penalties.
Well, yes.  There is that.

TimV

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaAgree, again. He just needs to stop taking stupid penalties.
Well, yes.  There is that.

I also agree- but if he does, will he still be a pest?:-D
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

David Harding

Quote from: TimV
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaAgree, again. He just needs to stop taking stupid penalties.
Well, yes.  There is that.

I also agree- but if he does, will he still be a pest?:-D
He's still our pest.

Trotsky

Quote from: David Harding
Quote from: TimV
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Jim HylaAgree, again. He just needs to stop taking stupid penalties.
Well, yes.  There is that.

I also agree- but if he does, will he still be a pest?:-D
He's still our pest.
Indeed.

Cornell95

Can it be that no one bumped this thread for the annual wasted opportunity for Harvard to help he ECAC's out-of-conference record in the BeanPot?

Less than 10 days till the LynahEast tilt (Friday, February 19, 2016)
Not sure whether Cornell Athletics has any tickets left, but I just noticed that Harvard has about 2 dozen tickets in section 15 in groups of 3/5/7/8

Looking like I wont be able to make it this year, and I have listed my 6 tickets (section 14) in the Ticket forum as well if anyone is looking and wants to help me out.

GO BIG RED!

billhoward

Merrick Garland Harvard '74 / Harvard Law '77 would replace Antonin Scalia Harvard Law '60. He would join six others who attended Harvard Law:
1 John Roberts (also Harvard undergrad)
2 Stephen Breyer
3 Anthony Kennedy
4 Stephen Breyer
5 Elena Kagan
6 Ruth Bader Ginsburg '54 (attended Harvard Law, degree from Columbia)

Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, and Sonia Sotomayor are Yale Law.

Enough. If only Douglas Ginsburg '70 didn't have such a checkered background. Imagine that: Cornellian in the 1960s, smoked weed. Probably wore bell-bottom jeans and had a red or UV mood light that also cleared up his complexion. Who'd have imagined him lighting up.

Swampy

Quote from: billhowardMerrick Garland Harvard '74 / Harvard Law '77 would replace Antonin Scalia Harvard Law '60. He would join six others who attended Harvard Law:
1 John Roberts (also Harvard undergrad)
2 Stephen Breyer
3 Anthony Kennedy
4 Stephen Breyer
5 Elena Kagan
6 Ruth Bader Ginsburg '54 (attended Harvard Law, degree from Columbia)

Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, and Sonia Sotomayor are Yale Law.

Enough. If only Douglas Ginsburg '70 didn't have such a checkered background. Imagine that: Cornellian in the 1960s, smoked weed. Probably wore bell-bottom jeans and had a red or UV mood light that also cleared up his complexion. Who'd have imagined him lighting up.

Scalia also went to sucks law.

This has probably already been done, but someone working on a sociology PhD should do a similar analysis of lower-level federal courts. These are said to be the spawning grounds for the SCOTUS. It would be interesting to see to what degree this Ivy League (actually HY) inner circle is enforced at the lower levels.