Money: Cornellians lost to (and gained from) the portal

Started by Trotsky, April 14, 2026, 06:37:09 PM

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stereax

I had popped open Wehmann's page too, just to peer at it, that's gone as well.
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The Rancor

Quote from: stereax on April 19, 2026, 10:50:09 PM
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Quote from: stereax on April 19, 2026, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: underskill on April 19, 2026, 12:32:03 PMI wonder if the Habs had any sayin encouraging him to transfer to a Big 10 school for his development
The Habs also famously got this goalie from Cornell that was pretty good - I dunno if you've ever heard of Ken Dryden, though...

From what it sounds, his agent was working the phones trying to find a "better" opportunity and Wisconsin bit. I don't think the Habs would WANT Cournoyer going from Good School Where He Owns The Net to Good School Where Oops, Hauser Is Already There.

The oldest person in the Montreal Canadians Organization is Jeff Gorton, executive vice president of hockey bullshit and he was born in 1968. Marty St. Louis, an ECAC boy, born in 1975. So, no, they don't care, even if they do know about Ken Dryden, not that it would matter after 60 years. The Habs definitely want their players in the Big 10 not the EZAC if they care at all. Sorry.
the Habs want their guy as the undisputed #1 tendy on a good team, not battling for starts with some undrafted kid on a team that's famously streaky. sorry.

So we're in agreement.

stereax

Quote from: The Rancor on Today at 10:40:05 AM
Quote from: stereax on April 19, 2026, 10:50:09 PM
Quote from: The Rancor on April 19, 2026, 10:16:01 PM
Quote from: stereax on April 19, 2026, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: underskill on April 19, 2026, 12:32:03 PMI wonder if the Habs had any sayin encouraging him to transfer to a Big 10 school for his development
The Habs also famously got this goalie from Cornell that was pretty good - I dunno if you've ever heard of Ken Dryden, though...

From what it sounds, his agent was working the phones trying to find a "better" opportunity and Wisconsin bit. I don't think the Habs would WANT Cournoyer going from Good School Where He Owns The Net to Good School Where Oops, Hauser Is Already There.

The oldest person in the Montreal Canadians Organization is Jeff Gorton, executive vice president of hockey bullshit and he was born in 1968. Marty St. Louis, an ECAC boy, born in 1975. So, no, they don't care, even if they do know about Ken Dryden, not that it would matter after 60 years. The Habs definitely want their players in the Big 10 not the EZAC if they care at all. Sorry.
the Habs want their guy as the undisputed #1 tendy on a good team, not battling for starts with some undrafted kid on a team that's famously streaky. sorry.

So we're in agreement.

no we aren't lmao. Cornell is as far from "streaky" as they come in recent memory - they've made what, 8 of the last 9 NCAA tournaments, something only tied by Denver? the only reason we brought in Rousseau is because of the void left by Cournoyer - if he didn't leave, we wouldn't have done that. Wisconsin is streaky as fuck - sometimes they go on Linsanity runs, other times they're abysmal.

the #1 most important thing is that their prospect is getting played. at Cornell, he absolutely would be. at Wisconsin, he's gonna have to compete with Hauser for starts (unless Hauser transfers, which he honestly should). sure, the quality of play in the B10 vs the ECAC is better, overall, but that's much less important than the difference between playing 30 games a year vs being the designated doorman.
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Quote from: stereax on Today at 10:48:11 AM
Quote from: The Rancor on Today at 10:40:05 AM
Quote from: stereax on April 19, 2026, 10:50:09 PM
Quote from: The Rancor on April 19, 2026, 10:16:01 PM
Quote from: stereax on April 19, 2026, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: underskill on April 19, 2026, 12:32:03 PMI wonder if the Habs had any sayin encouraging him to transfer to a Big 10 school for his development
The Habs also famously got this goalie from Cornell that was pretty good - I dunno if you've ever heard of Ken Dryden, though...

From what it sounds, his agent was working the phones trying to find a "better" opportunity and Wisconsin bit. I don't think the Habs would WANT Cournoyer going from Good School Where He Owns The Net to Good School Where Oops, Hauser Is Already There.

The oldest person in the Montreal Canadians Organization is Jeff Gorton, executive vice president of hockey bullshit and he was born in 1968. Marty St. Louis, an ECAC boy, born in 1975. So, no, they don't care, even if they do know about Ken Dryden, not that it would matter after 60 years. The Habs definitely want their players in the Big 10 not the EZAC if they care at all. Sorry.
the Habs want their guy as the undisputed #1 tendy on a good team, not battling for starts with some undrafted kid on a team that's famously streaky. sorry.

So we're in agreement.

no we aren't lmao. Cornell is as far from "streaky" as they come in recent memory - they've made what, 8 of the last 9 NCAA tournaments, something only tied by Denver? the only reason we brought in Rousseau is because of the void left by Cournoyer - if he didn't leave, we wouldn't have done that. Wisconsin is streaky as fuck - sometimes they go on Linsanity runs, other times they're abysmal.

the #1 most important thing is that their prospect is getting played. at Cornell, he absolutely would be. at Wisconsin, he's gonna have to compete with Hauser for starts (unless Hauser transfers, which he honestly should). sure, the quality of play in the B10 vs the ECAC is better, overall, but that's much less important than the difference between playing 30 games a year vs being the designated doorman.
Also, Cornell was a good spot for him as he was playing well and presumably getting good coaching. Though, I don't have a sense for what our goaltending coaching is like.

stereax

GP, W, L, SO, GA, MIN, GAA, SH, SV, SV%, CHIP, GSAx.

Alexis Cournoyer    Cornell    Fr    28    18    10    0    56    1636    2.05    1    603    .915    40.3    +1.02
Daniel Hauser    Wisconsin    Fr    33    21    8    2    76    1833    2.49    3    681    .900    34.4    -4.48

Cournoyer's stats are slightly better, yes. Cournoyer was playing in front of one of the best defenses in the country. And Hauser took that team to the FF finals.

It's gonna be a dead heat next year, I think, and a platoon to start. And there's a serious consideration that Hauser might just be deemed the starter if Cournoyer isn't up to snuff. The Habs would NOT want that.
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Will

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Quote from: BearLover on Today at 10:19:37 AM
Quote from: stereax on Today at 09:54:10 AMThe 2026-27 roster is currently showing!

Notable: Walsh is still there.

Incoming!

Forward 6'0" 185 lbs Left
Charlie Arend
Freshman Wilmette, Ill. Dubuque Fighting Saints (USHL)

Forward 6'0" 185 lbs Right
Coco Armstrong
Freshman West Vancouver, British Columbia Spokane Chiefs (WHL)

Forward 6'1" 170 lbs Left
Callum Hughes
Freshman Basking Ridge, N.J. Erie Otters (OHL)

Defenseman 5'10" 170 lbs Left
Ryland Randle
Freshman Winnipeg, Manitoba Des Moines Buccaneers (USHL)

Goaltender 5'11" 175 lbs Left
Mathis Rousseau
Sophomore Boisbriand, Québec University of Maine (HEA)

Defenseman 6'4" 229 lbs Right
Cole Tuminaro
Freshman South Beloit, Ill. Chicago Steel (USHL)

Forward 6'3" 209 lbs Left
Louie Wehmann
Freshman Wayzata, Minn. Penticton Vees (WHL)

Forward 6'3" 200 lbs Left
Ivan Zadvernyuk
Junior Moscow, Russia Brown University (ECAC)

Huh, now the link doesn't work - it reverts to the 2025-26 roster.
Huh. Well, it was DEFINITELY working a minute ago...
Looks like someone published the draft version of the new page prematurely.
Is next year here yet?

The Rancor

Quote from: BearLover on Today at 10:51:44 AMAlso, Cornell was a good spot for him as he was playing well and presumably getting good coaching. Though, I don't have a sense for what our goaltending coaching is like.

now you're starting to get it.

stereax

Quote from: The Rancor on Today at 11:22:38 AM
Quote from: BearLover on Today at 10:51:44 AMAlso, Cornell was a good spot for him as he was playing well and presumably getting good coaching. Though, I don't have a sense for what our goaltending coaching is like.

now you're starting to get it.
are you implying our goalie coaching is bad?
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The Rancor

Defenseman 6'4" 229 lbs Right
Cole Tuminaro
Freshman South Beloit, Ill. Chicago Steel (USHL)

Forward 6'3" 209 lbs Left
Louie Wehmann
Freshman Wayzata, Minn. Penticton Vees (WHL)

Forward 6'3" 200 lbs Left
Ivan Zadvernyuk
Junior Moscow, Russia Brown University (ECAC)


Love seeing these monsters listed. Keep The Big Red Big.

stereax

Jane's article was updated:

According to head coach Casey Jones '90, the move initially "blindsided" him and his staff, who had not anticipated losing their starting goaltender. Upon speaking with Cournoyer in the wake of his entering the portal, it was evident that the program and the goaltender had different understandings of what the future held.

"Coming to Cornell, we surely want people that understand the connections and the value of the education," Jones said. "We've just moved on. We wish him well, and we'll pivot."

Jones pivoted by acquiring Mathis Rousseau, a rising sophomore goaltender who spent his freshman year at the University of Maine. The Montreal, Quebec, native posted a .896 save percentage across 17 games in 2025-2026, backing up Maine's starter, Albin Boija. Rousseau challenged Boija for the starting position down the stretch and will certainly bolster the goaltending position for the Red next season.

"There's no shortage of people that want to play here," Jones said. "No shortage of people that want this opportunity right now with the roster we have."

[...]

"We've got a lot of good players here. Our roster is loaded next year," Jones said. "We feel good about that, and we'll have the right guys in the room that want to be here, and then just move on from there. We just move on. That's the landscape."


Jane mentions in her Twitter post that it seems Cournoyer wants to sign with MTL ASAP.
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BearLover

Quote from: stereax on Today at 11:27:26 AMJane's article was updated:

According to head coach Casey Jones '90, the move initially "blindsided" him and his staff, who had not anticipated losing their starting goaltender. Upon speaking with Cournoyer in the wake of his entering the portal, it was evident that the program and the goaltender had different understandings of what the future held.

"Coming to Cornell, we surely want people that understand the connections and the value of the education," Jones said. "We've just moved on. We wish him well, and we'll pivot."

Jones pivoted by acquiring Mathis Rousseau, a rising sophomore goaltender who spent his freshman year at the University of Maine. The Montreal, Quebec, native posted a .896 save percentage across 17 games in 2025-2026, backing up Maine's starter, Albin Boija. Rousseau challenged Boija for the starting position down the stretch and will certainly bolster the goaltending position for the Red next season.

"There's no shortage of people that want to play here," Jones said. "No shortage of people that want this opportunity right now with the roster we have."

[...]

"We've got a lot of good players here. Our roster is loaded next year," Jones said. "We feel good about that, and we'll have the right guys in the room that want to be here, and then just move on from there. We just move on. That's the landscape."


Jane mentions in her Twitter post that it seems Cournoyer wants to sign with MTL ASAP.
Welp, more cryptic quotes.

The Rancor

Quote from: stereax on Today at 11:23:31 AM
Quote from: The Rancor on Today at 11:22:38 AM
Quote from: BearLover on Today at 10:51:44 AMAlso, Cornell was a good spot for him as he was playing well and presumably getting good coaching. Though, I don't have a sense for what our goaltending coaching is like.

now you're starting to get it.
are you implying our goalie coaching is bad?

No, it probably is very good- I'd be shocked if it wasn't. What I'm implying is that Wisconsin probably has a larger goaltending coaching staff and resources, because it's a bigger program with more money. Training/Coaching is SO important for goalies in this era. They train to be robots. Playing approximately the same amount of games at Wisco Vs Cornell but against a full slate of Big 10 goon squads and snipers. I'm not shitting on our program, but I do see that there are limits to what we offer, and the impression of quality in the hockey world. Seeing things through non Carnelian glasses...
Of course I think Cornell is awesome. Teams should fear us. But in the wider hockey world, we're on the B tier (and the ECAC is C/B- tier in their eyes...) in spite of our consistency and success. Is what it is. It's ridiculous obviously considering that the Big Whoop hasn't claimed a Natty since it started, but, even we on e-lynah get worried when we have to face off against them with the season on the line.

My insights come from being a fan my whole life and playing ice hockey for a long time- and playing with and interacting with on a regular basis former Junior, College and pro players. I'm not that good, but they are and they know. I skate with (literal) kids on their way to College and Juniors with pro ambitions- I have a sense of how they think and feel, not that anyone cares about credentials- only Adam W has the street cred that matters.

stereax

Quote from: BearLover on Today at 11:41:47 AM
Quote from: stereax on Today at 11:27:26 AMJane's article was updated:

According to head coach Casey Jones '90, the move initially "blindsided" him and his staff, who had not anticipated losing their starting goaltender. Upon speaking with Cournoyer in the wake of his entering the portal, it was evident that the program and the goaltender had different understandings of what the future held.

"Coming to Cornell, we surely want people that understand the connections and the value of the education," Jones said. "We've just moved on. We wish him well, and we'll pivot."

Jones pivoted by acquiring Mathis Rousseau, a rising sophomore goaltender who spent his freshman year at the University of Maine. The Montreal, Quebec, native posted a .896 save percentage across 17 games in 2025-2026, backing up Maine's starter, Albin Boija. Rousseau challenged Boija for the starting position down the stretch and will certainly bolster the goaltending position for the Red next season.

"There's no shortage of people that want to play here," Jones said. "No shortage of people that want this opportunity right now with the roster we have."

[...]

"We've got a lot of good players here. Our roster is loaded next year," Jones said. "We feel good about that, and we'll have the right guys in the room that want to be here, and then just move on from there. We just move on. That's the landscape."


Jane mentions in her Twitter post that it seems Cournoyer wants to sign with MTL ASAP.
Welp, more cryptic quotes.
Let me translate from Coach to English:

"Cournoyer really fucked us over by telling us he wanted to transfer... he doesn't care about being at Cornell or the Cornell education, he only seems to care about hockey... so he can screw off as far as we're concerned, we have no shortage of people who'd want to play here, especially because we're deep at F/D and a good team, and actually care about being here at Cornell."
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The Rancor

Quote from: stereax on Today at 11:27:26 AMJane's article was updated:

According to head coach Casey Jones '90, the move initially "blindsided" him and his staff, who had not anticipated losing their starting goaltender. Upon speaking with Cournoyer in the wake of his entering the portal, it was evident that the program and the goaltender had different understandings of what the future held.

"Coming to Cornell, we surely want people that understand the connections and the value of the education," Jones said. "We've just moved on. We wish him well, and we'll pivot."

Jones pivoted by acquiring Mathis Rousseau, a rising sophomore goaltender who spent his freshman year at the University of Maine. The Montreal, Quebec, native posted a .896 save percentage across 17 games in 2025-2026, backing up Maine's starter, Albin Boija. Rousseau challenged Boija for the starting position down the stretch and will certainly bolster the goaltending position for the Red next season.

"There's no shortage of people that want to play here," Jones said. "No shortage of people that want this opportunity right now with the roster we have."

[...]

"We've got a lot of good players here. Our roster is loaded next year," Jones said. "We feel good about that, and we'll have the right guys in the room that want to be here, and then just move on from there. We just move on. That's the landscape."


Jane mentions in her Twitter post that it seems Cournoyer wants to sign with MTL ASAP.

Hell yeah, Coach Jones!!

BearLover

Quote from: stereax on Today at 11:44:19 AM
Quote from: BearLover on Today at 11:41:47 AM
Quote from: stereax on Today at 11:27:26 AMJane's article was updated:

According to head coach Casey Jones '90, the move initially "blindsided" him and his staff, who had not anticipated losing their starting goaltender. Upon speaking with Cournoyer in the wake of his entering the portal, it was evident that the program and the goaltender had different understandings of what the future held.

"Coming to Cornell, we surely want people that understand the connections and the value of the education," Jones said. "We've just moved on. We wish him well, and we'll pivot."

Jones pivoted by acquiring Mathis Rousseau, a rising sophomore goaltender who spent his freshman year at the University of Maine. The Montreal, Quebec, native posted a .896 save percentage across 17 games in 2025-2026, backing up Maine's starter, Albin Boija. Rousseau challenged Boija for the starting position down the stretch and will certainly bolster the goaltending position for the Red next season.

"There's no shortage of people that want to play here," Jones said. "No shortage of people that want this opportunity right now with the roster we have."

[...]

"We've got a lot of good players here. Our roster is loaded next year," Jones said. "We feel good about that, and we'll have the right guys in the room that want to be here, and then just move on from there. We just move on. That's the landscape."


Jane mentions in her Twitter post that it seems Cournoyer wants to sign with MTL ASAP.
Welp, more cryptic quotes.
Let me translate from Coach to English:

"Cournoyer really fucked us over by telling us he wanted to transfer... he doesn't care about being at Cornell or the Cornell education, he only seems to care about hockey... so he can screw off as far as we're concerned, we have no shortage of people who'd want to play here, especially because we're deep at F/D and a good team, and actually care about being here."
That part I got. But his reasoning for transferring is what I want to know, and that is still a mystery. Did he transfer because he though Wisconsin would give him a better opportunity to sign pro? Because he was struggling in school/didn't want to go to class anymore? "He only cares about hockey" seems clear, but why transfer? I can think of several reasons, but we don't have much clarity as to the ones that led to the decision, other than maybe a vague allusion to the "education" bit.