Money: Cornellians lost to (and gained from) the portal

Started by Trotsky, April 14, 2026, 06:37:09 PM

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ugarte

Quote from: stereaxApparently he is also nicknamed Rooster, like Roest, haha.

Call whichever guy wins the starting job Roostest.

RichH

Quote from: BearLover on April 19, 2026, 12:32:17 PM
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Quote from: The Rancor on April 19, 2026, 08:54:25 AM
Quote from: Bluelightning on April 19, 2026, 06:42:41 AMPossibly Rousseau is coming here mainly because he is thinking (or told) he won't have to split  playing time. He had to split time with Albin Boija in Maine. When Boija was on his game, he was better than Rousseau (4 shutouts, 2 decent games at Denver, etc). But when Boija was off it was gross.
    An athlete entering the portal because he wants a better education? That would be refreshing. He has an amazing opportunity presented to him now: start for Cornell hockey and possibly graduate with Ivy League degree. Win-win.
      Amazing how placated I feel getting Rousseau even after comparing game by game stats to Cournoyer. It was our best (and probably only) option and Casey got it done. Hats off to him. He came to Cornell with impossible shoes to fill. Did great job in season 1 but now has lost top goaltender, forward and one of top defensemen before their senior year.


This is a good pick up, but he will have to battle for starts against Roest, and presumably Katz, as well as Cirka who may or may not come this season, but next year for sure.

Quote from: Pghas on April 19, 2026, 06:17:43 AMI have to say I'm pretty unimpressed with Cornoyer's decision and also the way he is handling it.  Maybe he really hated Cornell because kit strikes me as unusual for any player to not at least acknowledge his current team and coaching staff.  I guess the competition in the big ten is better but idk.  I think their coaching staffs are using that idea to poach higher level players from the ECAC. I also don't understand -as far as I can tell Wisconsin just went on a run.  They are not a perennial powerhouse.  Plus as someone mentioned above Cornoyer is going to have to compete for his spot.  I don't know I guess there is lots more behind the scenes that I don't know about. 

Agree with you, seemed really unclassy to make the 'level up comment' when Cornell was 2 games away from losing in the Championship too.
That said, Wisconsin is definitely a perennial powerhouse, the last few seasons they haven't won the big one, but they have 6 times- and 9 for the women.
Yeah the last one was in '06 but I'm not sure we can talk smack on that one. For sure the old WCHA and the Big 10 are tough hockey leagues, but Cornell has held it's own against them. So, yeah something else happened, or maybe it was the plan all along. But it doesn't matter because we have a new set of goalies, an awesome freshman class returning for more as sophomores and (for now) our Captain- and of course our Coach. We skate on.

Wisconsin isn't a perennial powerhouse. They're weird! They've been ass (like, well below .500) several times since the Big 10 started (2013-14). They've had 5 seasons over .500 and 8 below in that stretch.

The good seasons have been very good, and they're certainly a historic contender that doesn't surprise anyone when they're good, but they've also had some awful years recently.
Wisconsin's (lack of) success the past two decades doesn't have much bearing on their current situation. They now have a really good coach, recent success, and are in the Big 10, which is already well ahead of the rest of the country in resources with that gap continuing to grow.

Which isn't to say Cournoyer made a good decision. Also, it's not clear he made a decision to leave Cornell so much as he couldn't handle being a real student, or any number of other reasons he had to leave.



They've had FOUR 20 loss seasons this decade, including 2024-25 with this same coach. It's such a feast or famine program, and it's difficult to figure out what's happening.

Back in the Joe Marsh era, SLU would have a predictable success rate based on his recruiting cycle. Every 3-4 years or so, SLU would blast into the NCAA tournament and then fall into the cellar as a huge senior class would graduate.

College hockey has a history of the non-traditionals having a 2-3 year window of power. The Lake State, Maine, Vermont, UNH, Notre Dame, Miami, Yale, Union, UMass stretches...usually led by great coaches having an emergent moment or striking gold with a Gostisbehere or Makar or Kariya. Given the chaos of The Portal NIL revolution, it's suddenly a lotto jackpot win to be a program having one of those RIGHT NOW. Suddenly the portal jumpers who think "I want to win!" are looking at Western Michigan thinking "powerhouse" when they've been anything but throughout their history. Crazy times.

Strike while the iron is hot, and it is scalding this year. Get TV exposure and Pope Bucci singing your praises, and all the stars on bad teams are looking up your number. Is it good for Cornell? Well we have been a consistent name in the tournament and at least eastern folks know of our tradition and steady success. And suddenly OOC games at Lynah are quietly a recruiting tool.

stereax

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stereax

Quote from: underskill on April 19, 2026, 12:32:03 PMI wonder if the Habs had any sayin encouraging him to transfer to a Big 10 school for his development
The Habs also famously got this goalie from Cornell that was pretty good - I dunno if you've ever heard of Ken Dryden, though...

From what it sounds, his agent was working the phones trying to find a "better" opportunity and Wisconsin bit. I don't think the Habs would WANT Cournoyer going from Good School Where He Owns The Net to Good School Where Oops, Hauser Is Already There.
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ursusminor

#289
Heisenberg's list shows that Cornell got Ivan Zadvernyuk of Brown from the portal. I apologize if this was already mentioned.

sah67

Quote from: ursusminor on April 19, 2026, 03:22:45 PMHeisenberg's list shows that Cornell got Ivan Zadvernyuk of Brown from the portal. I apologize if this was already mentioned.

Hopefully he chills out on the 83 PIMs from last season  :o

chimpfood

Quote from: sah67 on April 19, 2026, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: ursusminor on April 19, 2026, 03:22:45 PMHeisenberg's list shows that Cornell got Ivan Zadvernyuk of Brown from the portal. I apologize if this was already mentioned.

Hopefully he chills out on the 83 PIMs from last season  :o
Between him, Wehmann, Tuminaro, and Armstrong, could be a bit of a problem, but we'll see.

stereax

Quote from: chimpfood on April 19, 2026, 03:33:37 PM
Quote from: sah67 on April 19, 2026, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: ursusminor on April 19, 2026, 03:22:45 PMHeisenberg's list shows that Cornell got Ivan Zadvernyuk of Brown from the portal. I apologize if this was already mentioned.

Hopefully he chills out on the 83 PIMs from last season  :o
Between him, Wehmann, Tuminaro, and Armstrong, could be a bit of a problem, but we'll see.
Don't forget the OG penalty king Fegaras in this one!

But we did lose two guys who always seemed to take penalties at the wrong time [Stanley and Casty] soooo. Gotta give the PK something to do!
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GBR1234

Don't get me wrong Cournoyer is a good goalie, but he is as superstitious as they come. Most goalies are to some degree.
My prayer with every game was that CU would score first. That is the only way he could play with confidence. How many times did he give up a softie early in a game, usually short side because he didn't snug his pads against the pipe?
Usually the offense could right the ship, but sometimes he would give up a fluke 2nd goal and it was all downhill from there. After a third Casey would likely pull him for Koepple because he knew the opposition were now in his head.
Maybe Wisconsin will improve his skills and confidence or he'll be spending a lot of time on the bench in that conference.

ugarte

Maybe he'll collapse and Robertson will get a post-Michigan contract. It's the perfect result.

stereax

Quote from: ugarte on April 19, 2026, 04:22:24 PMMaybe he'll collapse and Robertson will get a post-Michigan contract. It's the perfect result.
Oh?
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ursusminor

Quote from: sah67 on April 19, 2026, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: ursusminor on April 19, 2026, 03:22:45 PMHeisenberg's list shows that Cornell got Ivan Zadvernyuk of Brown from the portal. I apologize if this was already mentioned.

Hopefully he chills out on the 83 PIMs from last season  :o
Most of those penalties were for spamming eLynah. :)

stereax

Quote from: ursusminor on April 19, 2026, 04:24:03 PM
Quote from: sah67 on April 19, 2026, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: ursusminor on April 19, 2026, 03:22:45 PMHeisenberg's list shows that Cornell got Ivan Zadvernyuk of Brown from the portal. I apologize if this was already mentioned.

Hopefully he chills out on the 83 PIMs from last season  :o
Most of those penalties were for spamming eLynah. :)
the real bear lover... ;)
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The Rancor

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Quote from: stereax on April 19, 2026, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: underskill on April 19, 2026, 12:32:03 PMI wonder if the Habs had any sayin encouraging him to transfer to a Big 10 school for his development
The Habs also famously got this goalie from Cornell that was pretty good - I dunno if you've ever heard of Ken Dryden, though...

From what it sounds, his agent was working the phones trying to find a "better" opportunity and Wisconsin bit. I don't think the Habs would WANT Cournoyer going from Good School Where He Owns The Net to Good School Where Oops, Hauser Is Already There.

The oldest person in the Montreal Canadians Organization is Jeff Gorton, executive vice president of hockey bullshit and he was born in 1968. Marty St. Louis, an ECAC boy, born in 1975. So, no, they don't care, even if they do know about Ken Dryden, not that it would matter after 60 years. The Habs definitely want their players in the Big 10 not the EZAC if they care at all. Sorry.

stereax

Quote from: The Rancor on April 19, 2026, 10:16:01 PM
Quote from: stereax on April 19, 2026, 02:46:33 PM
Quote from: underskill on April 19, 2026, 12:32:03 PMI wonder if the Habs had any sayin encouraging him to transfer to a Big 10 school for his development
The Habs also famously got this goalie from Cornell that was pretty good - I dunno if you've ever heard of Ken Dryden, though...

From what it sounds, his agent was working the phones trying to find a "better" opportunity and Wisconsin bit. I don't think the Habs would WANT Cournoyer going from Good School Where He Owns The Net to Good School Where Oops, Hauser Is Already There.

The oldest person in the Montreal Canadians Organization is Jeff Gorton, executive vice president of hockey bullshit and he was born in 1968. Marty St. Louis, an ECAC boy, born in 1975. So, no, they don't care, even if they do know about Ken Dryden, not that it would matter after 60 years. The Habs definitely want their players in the Big 10 not the EZAC if they care at all. Sorry.
the Habs want their guy as the undisputed #1 tendy on a good team, not battling for starts with some undrafted kid on a team that's famously streaky. sorry.
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