Money: Cornellians lost to (and gained from) the portal

[BearLover]

I said this the other day but I think Dylan Silverstein makes the most sense at this point. I have no idea if he's interested, but hard to find a better option, assuming it's too late to get a commitment (non-transfer).

[stereax]

BTW - the story I heard is that Cournoyer's agent -- who is not very college hockey savvy -- was sending out e-mails to anyone that would listen. Wisconsin -- which had been shopping for a goalie, but not him -- was surprised to get an email like that out of the blue. And then things happened from there. Cornell's staff has been very aggressive in covering their butts from the expected increased amount of transience in college hockey now. But that is one they didn't really have an inkling about, as you can tell.

I get that the Big Ten is better overall than the ECAC, and has a higher profile. But it's completely misguided to believe he didn't have every opportunity to excel, improve and impress NHL types by staying at Cornell. I believe it demonstrates a lack of understanding for what he was getting into in the first place. So in that regard, que sera sera. It was a coup at the time, but he's also replaceable. The only issue is the timing, so we'll see.

I think Cournoyer is taking a huge risk for potentially little reward.

Best case scenario he beats out Hauser for the starting spot, and winds up starting for a team that may be marginally better than Cornell, with a marginally higher profile, in a marginally better league.

Worst case scenario Wisconsin figures out that "it was the system" at Cornell, decides Hauser is actually stronger, and Cournoyer sits most of the year, waiting to transfer again.

I think objectively it was a bad move on his part.

The thing is, I don't even know if Wisconsin is better than Cornell or if they just went on a 24-25 March Big Red Linsanity run!

[stereax]

I said this the other day but I think Dylan Silverstein makes the most sense at this point. I have no idea if he's interested, but hard to find a better option, assuming it's too late to get a commitment (non-transfer).

idk if I'm Casey rn I'm contacting basically every goalie in the portal and seeing who's interested. there's gotta be a bite. the Cornell goalie job is like being the goalie for the Edmonton Oilers, except the Oilers' GMs somehow fucked that one up repeatedly.

[BearLover]

I said this the other day but I think Dylan Silverstein makes the most sense at this point. I have no idea if he's interested, but hard to find a better option, assuming it's too late to get a commitment (non-transfer).

idk if I'm Casey rn I'm contacting basically every goalie in the portal and seeing who's interested. there's gotta be a bite. the Cornell goalie job is like being the goalie for the Edmonton Oilers, except the Oilers' GMs somehow fucked that one up repeatedly.

but there aren't many good ones left

[andyw2100]

BTW - the story I heard is that Cournoyer's agent -- who is not very college hockey savvy -- was sending out e-mails to anyone that would listen. Wisconsin -- which had been shopping for a goalie, but not him -- was surprised to get an email like that out of the blue. And then things happened from there. Cornell's staff has been very aggressive in covering their butts from the expected increased amount of transience in college hockey now. But that is one they didn't really have an inkling about, as you can tell.

I get that the Big Ten is better overall than the ECAC, and has a higher profile. But it's completely misguided to believe he didn't have every opportunity to excel, improve and impress NHL types by staying at Cornell. I believe it demonstrates a lack of understanding for what he was getting into in the first place. So in that regard, que sera sera. It was a coup at the time, but he's also replaceable. The only issue is the timing, so we'll see.

I think Cournoyer is taking a huge risk for potentially little reward.

Best case scenario he beats out Hauser for the starting spot, and winds up starting for a team that may be marginally better than Cornell, with a marginally higher profile, in a marginally better league.

Worst case scenario Wisconsin figures out that "it was the system" at Cornell, decides Hauser is actually stronger, and Cournoyer sits most of the year, waiting to transfer again.

I think objectively it was a bad move on his part.

The thing is, I don't even know if Wisconsin is better than Cornell or if they just went on a 24-25 March Big Red Linsanity run!

Yeah. That's why I wrote "may be marginally better." I'm not willing to concede that they are/will be.

[stereax]

I said this the other day but I think Dylan Silverstein makes the most sense at this point. I have no idea if he's interested, but hard to find a better option, assuming it's too late to get a commitment (non-transfer).

idk if I'm Casey rn I'm contacting basically every goalie in the portal and seeing who's interested. there's gotta be a bite. the Cornell goalie job is like being the goalie for the Edmonton Oilers, except the Oilers' GMs somehow fucked that one up repeatedly.

but there aren't many good ones left

we literally just need league average. we might even be able to get away with slightly BELOW league average. let me look at the portal.

or just wait for hauser to get pissed off, either works.

[BearLover]

I said this the other day but I think Dylan Silverstein makes the most sense at this point. I have no idea if he's interested, but hard to find a better option, assuming it's too late to get a commitment (non-transfer).

idk if I'm Casey rn I'm contacting basically every goalie in the portal and seeing who's interested. there's gotta be a bite. the Cornell goalie job is like being the goalie for the Edmonton Oilers, except the Oilers' GMs somehow fucked that one up repeatedly.

but there aren't many good ones left

we literally just need league average. we might even be able to get away with slightly BELOW league average. let me look at the portal.

or just wait for hauser to get pissed off, either works.

We're trying to win the most games possible though. Yes, we can field a reasonable team with a league average goalie, but we want to make the NCAAs. We need someone better than that. I believe Ivies cannot take transfers with only one year of eligibility remaining, so that limits our options further.

[chimpfood]

I said this the other day but I think Dylan Silverstein makes the most sense at this point. I have no idea if he's interested, but hard to find a better option, assuming it's too late to get a commitment (non-transfer).

Looks like he's spent 3 years in college, so him coming here would require him to be willing to take an extra year before graduation because you can't transfer that many credits to Cornell and graduate in 1. Started at BC so may well have the academics for it, but seems unlikely that he'd want to push graduation back, especially if he has pro aspirations.

[stereax]

I said this the other day but I think Dylan Silverstein makes the most sense at this point. I have no idea if he's interested, but hard to find a better option, assuming it's too late to get a commitment (non-transfer).

idk if I'm Casey rn I'm contacting basically every goalie in the portal and seeing who's interested. there's gotta be a bite. the Cornell goalie job is like being the goalie for the Edmonton Oilers, except the Oilers' GMs somehow fucked that one up repeatedly.

but there aren't many good ones left

we literally just need league average. we might even be able to get away with slightly BELOW league average. let me look at the portal.

or just wait for hauser to get pissed off, either works.

Teagan Kendrick is still out there - I earmarked him as being a good idea a day or three ago. 3 years of eligibility left, I think he had like +7 GSAx in some 15-20 games this year.

There's also Nick Avakyan from Clarkson, who I flag mostly because Clarkson and so likely has had interaction with Casey in the past.

[BearLover]

I said this the other day but I think Dylan Silverstein makes the most sense at this point. I have no idea if he's interested, but hard to find a better option, assuming it's too late to get a commitment (non-transfer).

Looks like he's spent 3 years in college, so him coming here would require him to be willing to take an extra year before graduation because you can't transfer that many credits to Cornell and graduate in 1. Started at BC so may well have the academics for it, but seems unlikely that he'd want to push graduation back, especially if he has pro aspirations.

Oops. I hadn't realized he played at BC before Q. Never mind - not possible. Disregard that I said he's our best option. He is not an option.

[stereax]

I said this the other day but I think Dylan Silverstein makes the most sense at this point. I have no idea if he's interested, but hard to find a better option, assuming it's too late to get a commitment (non-transfer).

idk if I'm Casey rn I'm contacting basically every goalie in the portal and seeing who's interested. there's gotta be a bite. the Cornell goalie job is like being the goalie for the Edmonton Oilers, except the Oilers' GMs somehow fucked that one up repeatedly.

but there aren't many good ones left

we literally just need league average. we might even be able to get away with slightly BELOW league average. let me look at the portal.

or just wait for hauser to get pissed off, either works.

We're trying to win the most games possible though. Yes, we can field a reasonable team with a league average goalie, but we want to make the NCAAs. We need someone better than that. I believe Ivies cannot take transfers with only one year of eligibility remaining, so that limits our options further.

Okay, find me a good goalie in the portal. You yourself just said the best we might have is Silverstein. (Who isn't even an option, as we figured out above.) It's VERY slim pickings. But you need A guy, unless you have some unfounded faith in Roest or Katz, both of whom I'm pretty sure were expecting to finish their college careers as backups.

[BearLover]

At this point, our best bet is probably to tamper with a goalie who isn't in the portal yet.

[stereax]

At this point, our best bet is probably to tamper with a goalie who isn't in the portal yet.

Shhh. Not tampering. Inquiring about interest. Or whatever the hell you wanna call it.

[stereax]

Our pipeline at G is ass (lbr here) in part because Casey and most sane individuals anticipated Courns to stay here at least 3 years. Even if you bring Cirka in early (imo, terrible idea), I don't think he'd be better than Roest or Katz. Roest and Katz are not NCAA starting goalies, and we know that because neither has done anything so far besides a couple of exhibition minutes.

So we have no help coming and a goalie room that's basically backups. And you can't even really blame Casey for it because you don't recruit in a way that means you have two starting goalies on your roster.

You gotta find a portal goalie. Somehow, somewhere. Even if the portal goalie is worse than both Roest and Katz, at least you tried something.

[BearLover]

Looking like no great options in the portal tbh. The hope is that others enter soon. The starting job is there for the taking, so you'd hope a solid goalie would take the leap.