CJ KIRST WINS 2025 TEWAARATON AWARD

[Ken711]

Not a surprise but well deserved.

CJ Kirst

[stereax]

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[BearLover]

I am curious where people would rank CJ among the pantheon of great Cornell athletes and where they would rank CJ's championship game performance among the great performances of Cornell athletes.
Let's assume team sports only (otherwise the second list would be mostly wrestlers I think).

[George64]

Here's a list I made some time ago, he's up there with Dryden and Marinaro. Like Dryden, he brought home an NCAA championship.

Kyle Dake and other dominant Cornell athletes
Posted by: George64 (---.rochester.res.rr.com) [ PM ]
Date: March 28, 2013 04:35PM

Kyle Dake's extraordinary achievements led me to think about other truly dominant Cornell athletes. By dominant I mean athletes who stood head and shoulders above their intercollegiate peers as defined by sport and era (to accommodate changed levels of competition).

The following list is biased towards athletes of the last 50 years because that coincides with my time on the Hill and as an alum. It's also biased towards the sports that I've followed most closely and towards men's teams, because until recently women have played in their shadows. Because Ivy football and basketball lack parity with nationally ranked teams, I've set the bar lower for these two sports.

Men's Hockey: Ken Dryden, Doug Ferguson, Bruce Pattison, Dan Lodboa, Doug Murray, Lance Nethery, Joe Nieuwendyk, Dan Ratushny.

Men's Lacrosse: Mark Webster, Butch Hilliard, Bruce Cohen, Mike French, Eamon McEneany, Bill Marino, Tim Goldstein, Max Siebald, Rob Pannell.

Football: Gary Wood, Pete Gogolak, Ed Marinaro, Chris Zingo, Chad Levitt, Tom McHale, Kevin Boothe.

Wrestling: Dave Auble, Travis Lee, Kyle Dake.

Basketball: Chuck Rolles, Ryan Whittman.

Track and Field: Charlie Moore, Meredith Gourdine.

Women's Hockey: Rebecca Johnston, Laura Fortino, Lauriane Rougeau, with more to follow soon.

As I thought about this, I realized just how many extraordinary athletes I've seen over the years or at least read about. I've set the bar high -- this list excludes scores of All-Americans. I'm sure that I've left out many deserving candidates.

[George64]

For you youngsters, Tim Goldstein on the list above, is Ryan's father.

[Al DeFlorio]

For you youngsters, Tim Goldstein on the list above, is Ryan's father.

I'm pleased you included Bruce Cohen, who tends to be forgotten with all the attention given to the three titles in the 1970s.

[rss77]

Aaron Jones, a defenseman on the 1987 NCAA finalist team on the team deserves to be on the list alongside Chris Kane, Frank Muelleman, and Gavin Adler.

[BearLover]

I appreciate the above fantastic list above, but now you have to rank the top 5.

[Swampy]

For you youngsters, Tim Goldstein on the list above, is Ryan's father.

I'm pleased you included Bruce Cohen, who tends to be forgotten with all the attention given to the three titles in the 1970s.

I would also add Harry Orr. He was a good, but not great, lacrosse player, but I'll never forget (and neither will opposing goalies) his patented submarine shot from midfield that won several lacrosse games for Cornell. But I hear he was also a pretty good ice hockey player. If we add together his contributions in two sports, I think he belongs.

[mike1960]

I'd add Teat.

[LGR14]

I'd add Teat.

And Gavin Adler.

[ugarte]

You need to add Diakomihalis, Dean and Arujau to the wrestling list as 4x AA with at least two nattys. Arujau (Gold/Bronze) and Diakomihalis (Silver) also world medalists.

Should probably add Seth Payne, who opened the holes for Levitt and had a far better NFL career. Even got drafted a few spots ahead of him. JC Trotter, too. OL gets no respect!

[mike1960]

For you youngsters, Tim Goldstein on the list above, is Ryan's father.

At some point, you may decide to add Ryan Goldstein to the list, but I think our next superstar will be Willem Firth.

[jjanow99]

For you youngsters, Tim Goldstein on the list above, is Ryan's father.

At some point, you may decide to add Ryan Goldstein to the list, but I think our next superstar will be Willem Firth.

I agree. Some of the TV commentators speculated that Firth would move to attack next year. My take is that he's too similar in style and physique to Goldstein, so he would stay at midfield:

[mike1960]

For you youngsters, Tim Goldstein on the list above, is Ryan's father.

At some point, you may decide to add Ryan Goldstein to the list, but I think our next superstar will be Willem Firth.

I agree. Some of the TV commentators speculated that Firth would move to attack next year. My take is that he's too similar in style and physique to Goldstein, so he would stay at midfield:

That would be my speculation too. Firth is a lefty who can slot into the CJ's spot. On the other side, maybe Ryan Waldman. He's righty who can pass and score.