NCAAs quarterfinal Cornell vs. BU

[arugula]

For me, obviously it's better than being a Brown or Rpi fan. What's frustrating is that to be in the regional final 11 times and only when once is just not fair.  Dumb luck suggests more than that.

[scoop85]

Schafer 1-10 in regional finals including 8 in a row
Almost all in OT/by one goal
3 of last 5 losses were to BU

So painful to watch the same script play out every fucking year

Yeah, of course it's painful. But you know what's more painful? Being a Brown or RPI fan who can only dream about being in our shoes. I don't hate on you like some others, but you need to get some perspective.

I never understood the argument that you're not allowed to be upset because others have it so much worse. Would you say that to the team who only have about four years each?

I didn't say he's not allowed to be upset. Heck, the 2009 lax championship game continues to haunt me. I just thought it was worthwhile to point out how much joy we've gotten from this program and that these painful losses shouldn't obscure the overall success and emotional highs we've gotten from our team. But if he or anyone wants to wallow in their misery, have at it.

[ER]

No one is wallowing but that is a shitty record. BU wasn't that much better than us. We should have had this one and I'm certain the players agree.

[Tom Lento]

Makes you wonder if this was our last true shot at it given the changing recruiting environment with the CHL.

Probably not, but we've already had trouble trying to keep up with perennial powerhouses of college hockey.  It'll be more of the same as far as I'm concerned.  Schafer frequently found a way to put together the right team in spite of a general lack of superstars.  Hopefully Casey will be able to follow suit.

How about hopefully Casey will be able to attract some blue-chip recruits.

This. Gotta have faith, guys. We may never be a true "powerhouse" team, but years such as this one have proved that we can hang with them. Trust in the process and the recruitment. Things always work out.

I have to say, Cornell went toe to toe with that 13+ draft pick team from Boston today. BU definitely had one or two standout players that were clearly better than anybody in red today, but apart from their power play (which, to be clear, is a big deal) they didn't look to be that much more talented as a team.

At the end of the day this was the Cornell team we thought we'd get all year. I'm glad they got everybody healthy and figured it out in time for the playoffs, because they were a lot of fun to watch.

Looking forward, Jones has a reputation as an excellent recruiter - he certainly got a solid core of talent for both Clarkson and Cornell in his earlier positions (obviously we don't yet know what he'll bring to Cornell as a head coach). I'm not sure how many true blue-chip recruits he can pull in to an Ivy given the various restrictions, but if you think about it a solid all-around program like Cornell only really needs to find a couple to get over the hump.

[BearLover]

For me, obviously it's better than being a Brown or Rpi fan. What's frustrating is that to be in the regional final 11 times and only when once is just not fair.  Dumb luck suggests more than that.

There are almost no Brown or RPI fans because those teams suck every year, the only reason there are any RPI fans in the first place is because the program was good at one point. Nobody is going to root for a program that's uncompetitive every season. Cornell hockey has a ton of fans because we've had lots of success and are competitive every year, that's where the whole tradition comes from. So it makes no sense to compare us to a program almost nobody cares about, it's apples to oranges. A apt comparison would be to somebody else who is always good but suffers excruciating endings to every season, UNH or somebody but they aren't even good anymore. Cornell stands alone as consistently good but never happy in the end, that's the source of the pain and it will never go away until we make a frozen four.

[BearLover]

For me, obviously it's better than being a Brown or Rpi fan. What's frustrating is that to be in the regional final 11 times and only when once is just not fair.  Dumb luck suggests more than that.

There are almost no Brown or RPI fans because those teams suck every year, the only reason there are any RPI fans in the first place is because the program was good at one point. Nobody is going to root for a program that's uncompetitive every season. Cornell hockey has a ton of fans because we've had lots of success and are competitive every year, that's where the whole tradition comes from. So it makes no sense to compare us to a program almost nobody cares about, it's apples to oranges. A apt comparison would be to somebody else who is always good but suffers excruciating endings to every season, UNH or somebody but they aren't even good anymore. Cornell stands alone as consistently good but never happy in the end, that's the source of the pain and it will never go away until we make a frozen four.

Actually, I take that back. I realized there is another program with a history extremely similar to that of Cornell hockey.

It's Cornell lacrosse.

[scoop85]

No one is wallowing but that is a shitty record. BU wasn't that much better than us. We should have had this one and I'm certain the players agree.

I agree that today we were every bit as good as BU and there wasn't a moment watching the game that I didn't think we could win that game. Of course it's disappointing for all the players and the fans. I'm glad people care enough that it hurts.

[chimpfood]

All I want is one natty in my lifetime and I'll be happy. We've built a great foundation and it's truly remarkable how we make the quarterfinals every year but we need to get further at some point.

[BMac]

Someone asked about number of posts in a game thread.  I scanned to the beginning of time and the previous record was 317 for a playoff game with Clarkson in March 11, 2006.  That one was followed by a separate post-game thread of 143 posts, for a total of 460.

i wonder how much of it was dick swinging from guys fighting for the title of gloomiest poster

Much more likely it was dick swinging from the people happy when Cornell is losing 6-1 to Dartmouth and Union and blaming every thing on injuries, as they comprise 90% of this forum

https://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,88730

Wow I forgot about RichS

I figured this would be the super long game where Molson scored his last goal, a 2OT (3OT?) beauty to put Clarkson away. Then the ecacs, followed by tragedy vs Wisconsin in Milwaukee. But it's the game before!! With a Sawada GWG in 2OT.

Anyways.... Nothing to be ashamed of, what an unbelievable run. I really really liked this team. Incredible patience and grit, and Shane was a brick wall. Good health to coach and welcome to Casey.

[stereax]

Makes you wonder if this was our last true shot at it given the changing recruiting environment with the CHL.

Probably not, but we've already had trouble trying to keep up with perennial powerhouses of college hockey.  It'll be more of the same as far as I'm concerned.  Schafer frequently found a way to put together the right team in spite of a general lack of superstars.  Hopefully Casey will be able to follow suit.

How about hopefully Casey will be able to attract some blue-chip recruits.

This. Gotta have faith, guys. We may never be a true "powerhouse" team, but years such as this one have proved that we can hang with them. Trust in the process and the recruitment. Things always work out.

I have to say, Cornell went toe to toe with that 13+ draft pick team from Boston today. BU definitely had one or two standout players that were clearly better than anybody in red today, but apart from their power play (which, to be clear, is a big deal) they didn't look to be that much more talented as a team.

At the end of the day this was the Cornell team we thought we'd get all year. I'm glad they got everybody healthy and figured it out in time for the playoffs, because they were a lot of fun to watch.

Looking forward, Jones has a reputation as an excellent recruiter - he certainly got a solid core of talent for both Clarkson and Cornell in his earlier positions (obviously we don't yet know what he'll bring to Cornell as a head coach). I'm not sure how many true blue-chip recruits he can pull in to an Ivy given the various restrictions, but if you think about it a solid all-around program like Cornell only really needs to find a couple to get over the hump.

Nodding enthusiastically along. If you told me in December we'd lose to BU in overtime in the NCAA regionals after winning against MSU, I'd have told you you were crazy. The Big Red put up a great fight, despite a disparity in talent, and should be commended.

I can't wait to see the Jones Big Red next year. Hoping that at some point we can recruit one of those nice first/second round players who are impact NHLers, but we'll see.

[scoop85]

Someone asked about number of posts in a game thread.  I scanned to the beginning of time and the previous record was 317 for a playoff game with Clarkson in March 11, 2006.  That one was followed by a separate post-game thread of 143 posts, for a total of 460.

i wonder how much of it was dick swinging from guys fighting for the title of gloomiest poster

Much more likely it was dick swinging from the people happy when Cornell is losing 6-1 to Dartmouth and Union and blaming every thing on injuries, as they comprise 90% of this forum

https://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,88730

Wow I forgot about RichS

I figured this would be the super long game where Molson scored his last goal, a 2OT (3OT?) beauty to put Clarkson away. Then the ecacs, followed by tragedy vs Wisconsin in Milwaukee. But it's the game before!! With a Sawada GWG in 2OT.

Anyways.... Nothing to be ashamed of, what an unbelievable run. I really really liked this team. Incredible patience and grit, and Shane was a brick wall. Good health to coach and welcome to Casey.

But if we go back on our posts during the season (including mine) we were incredibly frustrated by this team until we got healthy and played like the team we expected all season long. I thought today was about as well as we've played all season against an excellent and skilled team, which of course leaves us all thinking "what if."

[scoop85]

Makes you wonder if this was our last true shot at it given the changing recruiting environment with the CHL.

Probably not, but we've already had trouble trying to keep up with perennial powerhouses of college hockey.  It'll be more of the same as far as I'm concerned.  Schafer frequently found a way to put together the right team in spite of a general lack of superstars.  Hopefully Casey will be able to follow suit.

How about hopefully Casey will be able to attract some blue-chip recruits.

This. Gotta have faith, guys. We may never be a true "powerhouse" team, but years such as this one have proved that we can hang with them. Trust in the process and the recruitment. Things always work out.

I have to say, Cornell went toe to toe with that 13+ draft pick team from Boston today. BU definitely had one or two standout players that were clearly better than anybody in red today, but apart from their power play (which, to be clear, is a big deal) they didn't look to be that much more talented as a team.

At the end of the day this was the Cornell team we thought we'd get all year. I'm glad they got everybody healthy and figured it out in time for the playoffs, because they were a lot of fun to watch.

Looking forward, Jones has a reputation as an excellent recruiter - he certainly got a solid core of talent for both Clarkson and Cornell in his earlier positions (obviously we don't yet know what he'll bring to Cornell as a head coach). I'm not sure how many true blue-chip recruits he can pull in to an Ivy given the various restrictions, but if you think about it a solid all-around program like Cornell only really needs to find a couple to get over the hump.

Nodding enthusiastically along. If you told me in December we'd lose to BU in overtime in the NCAA regionals after winning against MSU, I'd have told you you were crazy. The Big Red put up a great fight, despite a disparity in talent, and should be commended.

I can't wait to see the Jones Big Red next year. Hoping that at some point we can recruit one of those nice first/second round players who are impact NHLers, but we'll see.

As college sports, even hockey, devolves into pay for play, it seems unlikely we'll be able to bring in the super elite talent. But we'll have to see how this shakes out over the next few years.

[BearLover]

Someone asked about number of posts in a game thread.  I scanned to the beginning of time and the previous record was 317 for a playoff game with Clarkson in March 11, 2006.  That one was followed by a separate post-game thread of 143 posts, for a total of 460.

i wonder how much of it was dick swinging from guys fighting for the title of gloomiest poster

Much more likely it was dick swinging from the people happy when Cornell is losing 6-1 to Dartmouth and Union and blaming every thing on injuries, as they comprise 90% of this forum

https://elf.elynah.com/read.php?1,88730

Wow I forgot about RichS

I figured this would be the super long game where Molson scored his last goal, a 2OT (3OT?) beauty to put Clarkson away. Then the ecacs, followed by tragedy vs Wisconsin in Milwaukee. But it's the game before!! With a Sawada GWG in 2OT.

Anyways.... Nothing to be ashamed of, what an unbelievable run. I really really liked this team. Incredible patience and grit, and Shane was a brick wall. Good health to coach and welcome to Casey.

But if we go back on our posts during the season (including mine) we were incredibly frustrated by this team until we got healthy and played like the team we expected all season long. I thought today was about as well as we've played all season against an excellent and skilled team, which of course leaves us all thinking "what if."

Right, nobody is ashamed of anything, nobody doubts this was a great run, nobody doesn't love Schafer. People who are upset and complaining are doing so because this was yet another team capable of going to the frozen four or farther but didn't get there. That this was a great run nobody saw coming a month ago is beside the point. When you get to the regional final, however you get there, you have a special opportunity to do something amazing for your program and your school. And under Schafer we are now 1-10 in those opportunities.

[617BigRed]

Okay...

And so my watch has ended, really thought was gonna get to start another gamethread this season but alas
someone new will need to start next season with a thread for the Red/White game...

I didnt want to be on my phone during the game and will now have to go back and read from the start,
I assume all about the game, horrible ref calls, team spirit etc. has been discussed but for now:

The Lynah Faithful will one day be rewarded, and lets hang a ten spot on BU at the Garden in Nov.!

The King is dead, Long Live the King - see you all in Vegas for the Frozen Four next April!

The false bravado is hiding my tears, will never hear the band play Schafer song after a win again...

[imafrshmn]

One of the annoying paradoxes about winning big hockey games seems to be that when players are able to take it for granted, to some extent, they can play freer. Feeling the weight of the opportunity is not always psychologically beneficial. Maybe that's part of our track record in the regional, maybe not.