Hey Clownlover, the sky isn't falling: this year's team is last year's team.

Started by abmarks, December 14, 2024, 04:43:44 AM

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BearLover

Cornell's possession metrics are actually pretty good: they're 7th in the country in Corsi (% of shot attempts in a game) and 6th in Fenwick (% of unblocked shot attempts in a game). Though, these stats are probably quite biased because Cornell has been playing from behind almost every game this season. In 14 games, Cornell has only played two games where they never trailed, and only one game they won comfortably. Cornell has given up the first goal in five straight games and 10/14 games total. So that's going to inflate their SOG.

With all of that said, the blame for this season falls more than anything on goaltending and the PP. It's really that simple. Goaltending and PP have been awful, and the team would be in the top 15 in the country if they were average in those areas. It's hard to buy the injury excuse when it hasn't affected goaltending (Shane has apparently been healthy all year) or the PP (the first PP unit has seen no injuries, the second PP a few but only Penney out long term).  

Pretty much everybody is playing worse than last year, but I'm still pretty dumbfounded by the regression/lack of progression from Castagna, Robertson, DeSantis, and Donaldson. They seemed capable of so much more. Lastly, Cornell has gotten almost nothing from its freshmen. Only Major sees regular playing time and he seems too small for NCAA hockey currently. He was a great scorer in the USHL, but he seems to be getting pushed around. I hope all these players are able to improve, particularly next season with a clean slate.

chimpfood

Would you mind sharing the link to the metrics that you used? Are they on CHN? I wasn't able to find them there.

Agreed on major. Not only is he small but he plays really timid too. Small guys can definitely work in college (see oleary, Kraft just on this years team) but if your scared to play physical you're never gonna get much done. I'm sure he and the coaches notice and are working on it but I haven't been able to see progress as I can't watch any of these away series.

BearLover

Quote from: chimpfoodWould you mind sharing the link to the metrics that you used? Are they on CHN? I wasn't able to find them there.
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/stats/#adv

chimpfood

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: chimpfoodWould you mind sharing the link to the metrics that you used? Are they on CHN? I wasn't able to find them there.
https://www.collegehockeynews.com/stats/#adv
thanks, not sure how I missed it

upprdeck


VIEWfromK

Quote from: upprdeckwhy does playing from behind increase shots on goal?

Typically you are pressing to generate offense and not sitting back protecting a lead.

marty

Quote from: BearLover(Shane has apparently been healthy all year)...

You have no idea if he's hurt.  Google Adler FFS if you're too young to remember.

Here's a question for Jason to ask Mike.

"Coach, which players have suffered groin pulls, torn muscles and dislocations but have been hiding them from our opponents.  There's some guy on eLynah who demands answers."
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

ugarte

Quote from: marty
Quote from: BearLover(Shane has apparently been healthy all year)...

You have no idea if he's hurt.  Google Adler FFS if you're too young to remember.

Here's a question for Jason to ask Mike.

"Coach, which players have suffered groin pulls, torn muscles and dislocations but have been hiding them from our opponents.  There's some guy on eLynah who demands answers."
first of all, he said apparently. second of all, he's played every game so what point do you think you're making? if he's hurt enough for it to impact his performance but not his role we're pretty screwed.

BearLover

Quote from: marty
Quote from: BearLover(Shane has apparently been healthy all year)...

You have no idea if he's hurt.  Google Adler FFS if you're too young to remember.

Here's a question for Jason to ask Mike.

"Coach, which players have suffered groin pulls, torn muscles and dislocations but have been hiding them from our opponents.  There's some guy on eLynah who demands answers."
No I don't know for certain, but seems highly unlikely he's injured given he has played every game, unlike the past two years, when Keoppel had gotten a start by now.

Big Dingus


Trotsky

Quote from: Big DingusSo when is the original poster going to admit they were wrong?

Call no man happy until he is dead, but only lucky.  -- Solon

BearLover

Quote from: abmarksBecause numbers talk and clownlover shouldn't.

Clownlover has been all over the place; beside himself that the team is blowing their opportunity in what he declared to be a year where we're supposed to legitimately contend for the national title.

Let's get a little perspective here and look at what we did last year. Did we make a deep run?   Yes.   But arguably we overachieved last year after going on a quite unlikely tear.


11 games in we were 6W-3L-1T-1OTL.

In 2023-2024, The day after our 11th game, our pwr rank was 25th with 40 comparison wins and an rpi of .5239

Including all playoff games, we improbably went 16W-3L-5T the rest of the way.

Now let's compare to this season.

After our 11th game on 12/7, out record stood at
4W-3L-3T-1OTW.

In 2024-2025 The day after our 11th game, our pwr rank was 25th with 39 comparison wins and an rpi of .5231

I don't know what happened last year to get the team on track after the holiday break, but something tells me it was part coaching and quite a bit of run good to over achieve.  Basing expectations for this year on where we finished last year and not looking at how we got there is  a mistake.   So far, this year's team and last year's team are effectively the same.
I vote this worst post of 2024

Big Dingus

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Big DingusSo when is the original poster going to admit they were wrong?

Call no man happy until he is dead, but only lucky.  -- Solon

Look now, pal.

This ain't the same team, in fact not even close.


We now also risk losing a ton of players tot he transfer portal

ugarte

Quote from: Big DingusWe now also risk losing a ton of players tot he transfer portal
for all the things that i think are fair to say ... i doubt this very much. over the years the one thing the team has always been is cohesive and we've seen very few transfers out. i don't see that changing.

Iceberg