Hey Clownlover, the sky isn't falling: this year's team is last year's team.

[Big Dingus]

We now also risk losing a ton of players tot he transfer portal

for all the things that i think are fair to say ... i doubt this very much. over the years the one thing the team has always been is cohesive and we've seen very few transfers out. i don't see that changing.

We have usually seen the team win though... this year is the worst year in 10 years.

We are at risk

[Trotsky]

I hereby solemnly swear to stop yanking the Doomers' chains.  I've made my opinion of them clear. It hasn't changed, but it is Streisand Effect to engage with them.  I will concentrate on the good things, keep things in perspective, and try to lead by example.

[BearLover]

I hereby solemnly swear to stop yanking the Doomers' chains.  I've made my opinion of them clear. It hasn't changed, but it is Streisand Effect to engage with them.  I will concentrate on the good things, keep things in perspective, and try to lead by example.

It's weird to label people doomers when the season is objectively awful. Given our results this season, it seems the people out of whack are the optimists who think things are fine and dandy as we meander through the most disappointing season in 30+ years.

[Al DeFlorio]

I hereby solemnly swear to stop yanking the Doomers' chains.  I've made my opinion of them clear. It hasn't changed, but it is Streisand Effect to engage with them.  I will concentrate on the good things, keep things in perspective, and try to lead by example.

It's weird to label people doomers when the season is objectively awful. Given our results this season, it seems the people out of whack are the optimists who think things are fine and dandy as we meander through the most disappointing season in 30+ years.

Stop with this nonsense.  No one here thinks things are "fine and dandy."  But no one else is this obsessive about finding out who the culprit is that's the cause of this so we can pin blame for it.

[marty]

I hereby solemnly swear to stop yanking the Doomers' chains.  I've made my opinion of them clear. It hasn't changed, but it is Streisand Effect to engage with them.  I will concentrate on the good things, keep things in perspective, and try to lead by example.

It's weird to label people doomers when the season is objectively awful. Given our results this season, it seems the people out of whack are the optimists who think things are fine and dandy as we meander through the most disappointing season in 30+ years.

Stop with this nonsense.  No one here thinks things are "fine and dandy."  But no one else is this obsessive about finding out who the culprit is that's the cause of this so we can pin blame for it.

And no one else here has the same degree of sick entitlement that demands answers to questions that are - should be - and in any true team will be none of our business.

[ugarte]

I hereby solemnly swear to stop yanking the Doomers' chains.  I've made my opinion of them clear. It hasn't changed, but it is Streisand Effect to engage with them.  I will concentrate on the good things, keep things in perspective, and try to lead by example.

It's weird to label people doomers when the season is objectively awful. Given our results this season, it seems the people out of whack are the optimists who think things are fine and dandy as we meander through the most disappointing season in 30+ years.

Stop with this nonsense.  No one here thinks things are "fine and dandy."  But no one else is this obsessive about finding out who the culprit is that's the cause of this so we can pin blame for it.

And no one else here has the same degree of sick entitlement that demands answers to questions that are - should be - and in any true team will be none of our business.

i can't believe that you are genuinely this incurious. it's sports not national defense. this kind of pious crap is why my first dedicated online posting was trolling the Clarkson Roundtable.

[BearLover]

I hereby solemnly swear to stop yanking the Doomers' chains.  I've made my opinion of them clear. It hasn't changed, but it is Streisand Effect to engage with them.  I will concentrate on the good things, keep things in perspective, and try to lead by example.

It's weird to label people doomers when the season is objectively awful. Given our results this season, it seems the people out of whack are the optimists who think things are fine and dandy as we meander through the most disappointing season in 30+ years.

Stop with this nonsense.  No one here thinks things are "fine and dandy."  But no one else is this obsessive about finding out who the culprit is that's the cause of this so we can pin blame for it.

And no one else here has the same degree of sick entitlement that demands answers to questions that are - should be - and in any true team will be none of our business.

I'm not sure if my posting has driven you insane but you seem totally oblivious to the fact that I am a FAN posting on a SPORTS FORUM. I'm not knocking on the door of the Cornell Daily Sun or Cornell Sports Media or CHN demanding they answer my questions. Indeed, I have demanded absolutely nothing. I listed a number of questions to which I'd love to know the answer and bemoaned the fact they won't be answered. (I later clarified that my bemoaning was from a selfish perspective as a fan of the team and was not making any normative claim as to how things ought to be.) We're in the midst of the most disappointing season in 30+ years and it's so objectionable to you that I'm curious as to what is going on? It's so objectionable to question any decision by the coaching staff or make inferences about who is or isn't injured? (You went off on me yesterday for suggesting Shane is healthy because he's started every game.) Have you never been on a sports discussion forum before?

[marty]

I hereby solemnly swear to stop yanking the Doomers' chains.  I've made my opinion of them clear. It hasn't changed, but it is Streisand Effect to engage with them.  I will concentrate on the good things, keep things in perspective, and try to lead by example.

It's weird to label people doomers when the season is objectively awful. Given our results this season, it seems the people out of whack are the optimists who think things are fine and dandy as we meander through the most disappointing season in 30+ years.

Stop with this nonsense.  No one here thinks things are "fine and dandy."  But no one else is this obsessive about finding out who the culprit is that's the cause of this so we can pin blame for it.

And no one else here has the same degree of sick entitlement that demands answers to questions that are - should be - and in any true team will be none of our business.

I'm not sure if my posting has driven you insane but you seem totally oblivious to the fact that I am a FAN posting on a SPORTS FORUM. I'm not knocking on the door of the Cornell Daily Sun or Cornell Sports Media or CHN demanding they answer my questions. Indeed, I have demanded absolutely nothing. I listed a number of questions to which I'd love to know the answer and bemoaned the fact they won't be answered. (I later clarified that my bemoaning was from a selfish perspective as a fan of the team and was not making any normative claim as to how things ought to be.) We're in the midst of the most disappointing season in 30+ years and it's so objectionable to you that I'm curious as to what is going on? It's so objectionable to question any decision by the coaching staff or make inferences about who is or isn't injured? (You went off on me yesterday for suggesting Shane is healthy because he's started every game.) Have you never been on a sports discussion forum before?

If you had simply listed a number of questions I wouldn't be sick of your posts.  You listed question after question ad nauseum. It didn't make me insane just sick of reading these unending queries which won't be answered by the coach or anyone else on the inside.

And the fact that I might have missed that you realize that some of this is selfish gets lost because I don't carefully read all of your posts. It gets tiresome.

We're sad that the season hasn't gone the way most of us expected.  It's just that your way of expressing your disappointment is not helping me get through this season.  It only gives me another reason to feel bad.

[Tcl123]

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[Big Dingus]

Why are people sick of Bearlover? Because he tells the truth. This is the first time in 20 years we have not been good, why shouldn't we be upset? We care about the team and that's a good thing. You want us to not care and fade into irrelevance like Brown or Princeton?

We are at a crossroads where we are in serious trouble with the new CHL rules, a new coach, and a Wild West transfer portal to deeply fall as a program. Just look at other ECAC programs and how quickly they fell. This is serious and someone needs to recognize it.

Hell I've had a feud with him for two years and the fact is he is right. Something is going on and it would be nice to know why instead of watch the team consistently underperform compared to last year which was basically the same team.

[Dafatone]

2014-15 was 20 years ago?

[chimpfood]

I'm not worried about the transfer portal or CHL stuff because we have never had trouble with losing people to the portal and we're always great at bringing in Canadians and we are bringing in a new Canadian coach. If anything the CHL change should help us, getting talented, old Canadian players that age out.

[BearLover]

I'm not worried about the transfer portal or CHL stuff because we have never had trouble with losing people to the portal and we're always great at bringing in Canadians and we are bringing in a new Canadian coach. If anything the CHL change should help us, getting talented, old Canadian players that age out.

I'm not sure we're going to get those aged out players. Those players likely don't plan on playing for a U.S. university (otherwise they wouldn't have committed earlier), and so I'm unsure they would have the requisite academics for a place like Cornell? Just looking at recruiting in the last month or two, Quinnipiac and a lot of lesser hockey schools seem to have recruited CHL kids who are aging out, while Cornell and a few other Ivies appear to be targeting younger kids who are starting or will soon start their CHL careers. With that said, it's true our proximity to Canada plus our Canadian coach should help.

I agree we probably won't lose any/many players to the portal. Though, this next offseason is uncharted terrain. We have never had a coaching change during the transfer portal. Also, we will probably be coming off of a hugely disappointing season.

I think the coach-in-waiting plan just wasn't a smart idea. Notre Dame is trying the same thing and it hasn't worked for them either. I'm actually excited to see what Casey can do next year as the full time head coach. Whatever's going on this season just isn't working out.

People on here love to heckle me for suggesting a problem with the coaching, but at this point things have gotten so bad that I believe the burden is on the coaching-defenders to justify that the coaching is fine and dandy. Once again, when the whole team regresses, it's hard to pin that on the players.

[adamw]

Why are people sick of Bearlover? Because he tells the truth. This is the first time in 20 years we have not been good, why shouldn't we be upset? We care about the team and that's a good thing. You want us to not care and fade into irrelevance like Brown or Princeton?

We are at a crossroads where we are in serious trouble with the new CHL rules, a new coach, and a Wild West transfer portal to deeply fall as a program. Just look at other ECAC programs and how quickly they fell. This is serious and someone needs to recognize it.

Hell I've had a feud with him for two years and the fact is he is right. Something is going on and it would be nice to know why instead of watch the team consistently underperform compared to last year which was basically the same team.

I'll try to be say it succinctly - again - without attacking ... The issue is not saying that this team is having issues, or underachieving - I've said it myself, all the time.  The issue is trying to ascribe it to "coaching" -- using "reasons" that are specious, based on nothing, and not true on any base level. And then being absolutely so sure of himself about it.