Cornell at Dartmouth 11/15

Started by Iceberg, November 15, 2024, 02:25:47 PM

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BearLover

Cornell was clearly the better team last night. On the road, down six injured players, they controlled the game. Dartmouth created opportunities off Cornell turnovers but otherwise they got pushed around and outskated. For a team that's supposedly going to compete for the ECAC, Dartmouth was pretty unimpressive.

Cornell lost this game because of some of the worst special teams and some of the worst turnovers I can remember seeing from a Cornell team. Are the top three lines just exhausted from being over-shifted? There are big costs to not being able to field a full team.

You could see this coming with how Cornell has played so far, starting with the North Dakota weekend. The million dollar question is whether it's injuries or something more fundamental. Getting back the injured players is clearly necessary to have a good year. The season is at risk of going downhill quickly if Cornell loses to Harvard tonight. Harvard, which will be better than Dartmouth both at creating turnovers and capitalizing off of them, will score at least six if Cornell plays like it did last night.

stereax

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Quote from: TrotskyThe Fuscos make me understand how the Hatfields felt.

I didn't want this to go without recognition, so here's a slow clap.

A reminder for Saturday:
https://gocrimson.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/ben-macdonald/29140
Adding my slow clap in as well. Question from a new fan, did that guy do something last year and that's why we hate him?
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RichH

Quote from: BearLoverCornell was clearly the better team last night. On the road, down six injured players, they controlled the game. Dartmouth created opportunities off Cornell turnovers but otherwise they got pushed around and outskated. For a team that's supposedly going to compete for the ECAC, Dartmouth was pretty unimpressive.

Unimpressive or not to your expert eye, they're now 5-0 with wins agains Harvard, Quinnipiac, and Cornell. They beat Princeton handily. They were picked 3rd in the coaches poll, above Harvard and Clarkson.  I don't know what more they have to do to signal that they're "supposedly" going to compete for the ECAC.


QuoteCornell lost this game because of some of the worst special teams and some of the worst turnovers I can remember seeing from a Cornell team. Are the top three lines just exhausted from being over-shifted? There are big costs to not being able to field a full team.

Completely agree.  Having so many out is putting players who never have never played on a line together. Line familiarity and chemistry is important to a team like this with no Morgan Barron type to carry the weight.

RichH

Quote from: stereax
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: TrotskyThe Fuscos make me understand how the Hatfields felt.

I didn't want this to go without recognition, so here's a slow clap.

A reminder for Saturday:
https://gocrimson.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/ben-macdonald/29140
Adding my slow clap in as well. Question from a new fan, did that guy do something last year and that's why we hate him?

The Fusco brothers starred for Harvard back in their dynastic period (1980s). Trotsky is having mild PTSD seeing Mark's son. John Fusco scored twice against Cornell in the ECAC Semifinals (and also scored twice at Lynah) last season.

stereax

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: TrotskyThe Fuscos make me understand how the Hatfields felt.

I didn't want this to go without recognition, so here's a slow clap.

A reminder for Saturday:
https://gocrimson.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/ben-macdonald/29140
Adding my slow clap in as well. Question from a new fan, did that guy do something last year and that's why we hate him?

The Fusco brothers starred for Harvard back in their dynastic period (1980s). Trotsky is having mild PTSD seeing Mark's son. John Fusco scored twice against Cornell in the ECAC Semifinals (and also scored twice at Lynah) last season.
Ahhh I see, thanks! I heard Fusco a lot on the broadcast and was wondering. Thought it was because there are two of them and they were so frequently talked about. Though my question was originally for McDonald actually, I'm enjoying the lore haha!
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

RichH

Quote from: stereax
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: TrotskyThe Fuscos make me understand how the Hatfields felt.

I didn't want this to go without recognition, so here's a slow clap.

A reminder for Saturday:
https://gocrimson.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/ben-macdonald/29140
Adding my slow clap in as well. Question from a new fan, did that guy do something last year and that's why we hate him?

The Fusco brothers starred for Harvard back in their dynastic period (1980s). Trotsky is having mild PTSD seeing Mark's son. John Fusco scored twice against Cornell in the ECAC Semifinals (and also scored twice at Lynah) last season.

Ahhh I see, thanks! I heard Fusco a lot on the broadcast and was wondering. Thought it was because there are two of them and they were so frequently talked about. Though my question was originally for McDonald actually, I'm enjoying the lore haha!

Same answer for MacDonald.  Lane MacDonald, another Harvard superstar won the Honey Baker aware in 1989, the same year that absolutely nothing happened in the NCAA tournament.  Ben is his son, playing for nobody.

stereax

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: TrotskyThe Fuscos make me understand how the Hatfields felt.

I didn't want this to go without recognition, so here's a slow clap.

A reminder for Saturday:
https://gocrimson.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/ben-macdonald/29140
Adding my slow clap in as well. Question from a new fan, did that guy do something last year and that's why we hate him?

The Fusco brothers starred for Harvard back in their dynastic period (1980s). Trotsky is having mild PTSD seeing Mark's son. John Fusco scored twice against Cornell in the ECAC Semifinals (and also scored twice at Lynah) last season.

Ahhh I see, thanks! I heard Fusco a lot on the broadcast and was wondering. Thought it was because there are two of them and they were so frequently talked about. Though my question was originally for McDonald actually, I'm enjoying the lore haha!

Same answer for MacDonald.  Lane MacDonald, another Harvard superstar won the Honey Baker aware in 1989, the same year that absolutely nothing happened in the NCAA tournament.  Ben is his son, playing for nobody.
I see, got it! Yeah, weird that tournament didn't happen...
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

ER

I'm confused why we started the season with injuries. How did they injure before even playing a game? Did they not do what they were supposed to do in the off season, or do we need a new S&C coach, or something else?

ugarte

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: TrotskyThe Fuscos make me understand how the Hatfields felt.

I didn't want this to go without recognition, so here's a slow clap.

A reminder for Saturday:
https://gocrimson.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/ben-macdonald/29140
Adding my slow clap in as well. Question from a new fan, did that guy do something last year and that's why we hate him?

The Fusco brothers starred for Harvard back in their dynastic period (1980s). Trotsky is having mild PTSD seeing Mark's son. John Fusco scored twice against Cornell in the ECAC Semifinals (and also scored twice at Lynah) last season.

Ahhh I see, thanks! I heard Fusco a lot on the broadcast and was wondering. Thought it was because there are two of them and they were so frequently talked about. Though my question was originally for McDonald actually, I'm enjoying the lore haha!

Same answer for MacDonald.  Lane MacDonald, another Harvard superstar won the Honey Baker aware in 1989, the same year that absolutely nothing happened in the NCAA tournament.  Ben is his son, playing for nobody.
what a ham

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Quote from: ERI'm confused why we started the season with injuries. How did they injure before even playing a game? Did they not do what they were supposed to do in the off season, or do we need a new S&C coach, or something else?
I believe some had surgeries at the end of last season or over the summer that may require a lengthy rehab

BearLover

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Quote from: ERI'm confused why we started the season with injuries. How did they injure before even playing a game? Did they not do what they were supposed to do in the off season, or do we need a new S&C coach, or something else?
I believe some had surgeries at the end of last season or over the summer that may require a lengthy rehab
I think everyone who is currently injured played in the Czech games this summer and/or played earlier this season. How they got hurt I have no idea (other than Psenicka). But these injuries all seem to have occurred within the last couple of months.

VIEWfromK

The guys got hurt in the practices leading up to the season.  All freak things.  None of those injuries occurred in Europe like I expected once I saw the carnage come that preseason game vs Princeton.  They have to figure out a way to stay afloat before the "trade deadline" acquisitions reinforce the depth in the new year.

Anyone have an idea why that game didn't land in the on demand cue for ESPN+?  Was expecting to be able to watch it later on only to be disappointed that it was nowhere to be found.

BearLover

Quote from: VIEWfromKThe guys got hurt in the practices leading up to the season.  All freak things.  None of those injuries occurred in Europe like I expected once I saw the carnage come that preseason game vs Princeton.  They have to figure out a way to stay afloat before the "trade deadline" acquisitions reinforce the depth in the new year.
So what's the timeline on the injured players returning? Seems like:
Mack—back next week
Psenicka—week to week
Fegaras—sometime in the next few weeks(?)
Wallace—next semester
Devlin—next semester
Wolfenberg—who knows, but looked like it will be awhile

Did I forget anyone? Is Mosko hurt too? He has seen no ice time despite being the 7th defenseman last year and Fegaras being out.

Need to get healthy ASAP because the team is really struggling right now.

Scersk '97

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: VIEWfromKThe guys got hurt in the practices leading up to the season.  All freak things.  None of those injuries occurred in Europe like I expected once I saw the carnage come that preseason game vs Princeton.  They have to figure out a way to stay afloat before the "trade deadline" acquisitions reinforce the depth in the new year.
So what's the timeline on the injured players returning? Seems like:
Mack—back next week
Psenicka—week to week
Fegaras—sometime in the next few weeks(?)
Wallace—next semester
Devlin—next semester
Wolfenberg—who knows, but looked like it will be awhile

Did I forget anyone? Is Mosko hurt too? He has seen no ice time despite being the 7th defenseman last year and Fegaras being out.

We're getting very close to the surprise debut of either Rayhill or Steele. Yeah, we need to get healthy.

Need to get healthy ASAP because the team is really struggling right now.

Coach mentioned 7 players out in the short broadcast interview after the Harvard game. At the beginning of the game, that would have been, I'm thinking:

Mack     ——  back next week, as you say
Psenicka ——  "questionable" for this last weekend, according to the Sun
Fegaras  ——  "hand injury" according to the Sun preview; would have to assume next semester?
Wallace  ——  no idea; recall his trick knee injury at the beginning of last year
Devlin   ——  no idea
Mosko    ——  he and O'Brien split 7th defenseman last year, but I had more confidence in Mosko; haven't seen him, so no idea

I'm going to guess he's counting Wolfenberg or Bancroft, subconsciously, to get to seven. The hit on Wolfenberg looked like it just rode up on him. From what happened on the broadcast, I'm going to assume he started showing some concussion effects on the bench and then had to go up the tunnel.

When will he be back? Who knows with concussions? Could be next week; could be next semester.

We're very close to the debut of either Rayhill or Steele. Yeah, we need to get healthy.

arugula

Rayhill has to get a uniform at some point this season just as a reward for sticking around for four years. As to Steele, certainly he's big and played at a real Junior program.  Who knows why he never seems close to breaking in.