Cornell at Dartmouth 11/15

Started by Iceberg, November 15, 2024, 02:25:47 PM

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BearLover

Quote from: RichHAlways have trouble at Thompson. Tonight CU didn't look lost or uninspired and still took the L. Oh well.  At least we lost to a Dartmouth team that has some talent up and down instead of the old Gaudet Goon squad.

What month/year will we get a PPG?  Gotta shore up special teams before I can call this team special.
Dartmouth had a few D who could move the puck and little else. Pretty weak to get badly outplayed on home ice against an injury riddled team. I wasn't impressed by them, at all. Would much rather play them than Quinnipiac or Harvard. Speaking of which.

Trotsky

Yeah, that's a talented Dartmouth team.  We shot ourselves in the head, no question, but there will be some lessons learned coming out of this that won't be forgotten.

On to Harvard.  I strongly suspect the team will come out on fire tomorrow night.

BearLover

Quote from: TrotskyYeah, that's a talented Dartmouth team.  We shot ourselves in the head, no question, but there will be some lessons learned coming out of this that won't be forgotten.

On to Harvard.  I strongly suspect the team will come out on fire tomorrow night.
Did we watch the same Dartmouth team? They got totally pushed around after the first five minutes. They showed little speed, getting beaten by Cornell to almost every loose puck.

BTW, did Cornell put a shot on goal on the 5-minute major? The best opportunity by far during the five minutes was Dartmouth shorthanded chance when Cornell nearly scored on itself.

Iceberg

There was definitely a shot on goal near the end of the 2nd period, but there was very little of anything on that major PP in general

BearLover

Did anyone both to check on Shane to see if he was okay after the hit? He was shaky after that.

This team hasn't looked right all season. Injuries, or is something more fundamentally wrong?

chimpfood

Quote from: BearLoverDid anyone both to check on Shane to see if he was okay after the hit? He was shaky after that.

This team hasn't looked right all season. Injuries, or is something more fundamentally wrong?
What really bothered me is that nobody actually stood up for Shane after that hit. Guys lazily skated up and pushed the Dartmouth guy around a little bit because they felt like they had to but it was clear that they just wanted the power play and didn't really care. You've got to come out there and really rough the guy up after he does that to your goalie and we just didn't. Not saying it cost us the game or anything but it was annoying.

BearLover

Quote from: chimpfood
Quote from: BearLoverDid anyone both to check on Shane to see if he was okay after the hit? He was shaky after that.

This team hasn't looked right all season. Injuries, or is something more fundamentally wrong?
What really bothered me is that nobody actually stood up for Shane after that hit. Guys lazily skated up and pushed the Dartmouth guy around a little bit because they felt like they had to but it was clear that they just wanted the power play and didn't really care. You've got to come out there and really rough the guy up after he does that to your goalie and we just didn't. Not saying it cost us the game or anything but it was annoying.
I actually thought Cornell's response was one of the few smart choices they made tonight. They were down in the game and couldn't risk taking a retaliatory penalty. Three Cornell players jumped the guy, I don't think you can really ask for more.

Terrible night, though. One of the most frustrating games I can remember.

Trotsky

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: TrotskyYeah, that's a talented Dartmouth team.  We shot ourselves in the head, no question, but there will be some lessons learned coming out of this that won't be forgotten.

On to Harvard.  I strongly suspect the team will come out on fire tomorrow night.
Did we watch the same Dartmouth team? They got totally pushed around after the first five minutes. They showed little speed, getting beaten by Cornell to almost every loose puck.

I know what I watched.  Dartmouth had speed and backchecking skill.  System-wise they were pretty disorganized. They ran a good kill and a good pp.  They were able to exploit our mistakes.

I can't speak for what you watched except to say every time we've fallen behind in a gamethread you've whipped out the seppuku kit and I've gone from being annoyed to being impatient for you to complete the play.

RichH

Quote from: TrotskyThe Fuscos make me understand how the Hatfields felt.

I didn't want this to go without recognition, so here's a slow clap.

A reminder for Saturday:
https://gocrimson.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/ben-macdonald/29140

RichH


BearLover

Cornell was clearly the better team last night. On the road, down six injured players, they controlled the game. Dartmouth created opportunities off Cornell turnovers but otherwise they got pushed around and outskated. For a team that's supposedly going to compete for the ECAC, Dartmouth was pretty unimpressive.

Cornell lost this game because of some of the worst special teams and some of the worst turnovers I can remember seeing from a Cornell team. Are the top three lines just exhausted from being over-shifted? There are big costs to not being able to field a full team.

You could see this coming with how Cornell has played so far, starting with the North Dakota weekend. The million dollar question is whether it's injuries or something more fundamental. Getting back the injured players is clearly necessary to have a good year. The season is at risk of going downhill quickly if Cornell loses to Harvard tonight. Harvard, which will be better than Dartmouth both at creating turnovers and capitalizing off of them, will score at least six if Cornell plays like it did last night.

stereax

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: TrotskyThe Fuscos make me understand how the Hatfields felt.

I didn't want this to go without recognition, so here's a slow clap.

A reminder for Saturday:
https://gocrimson.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/ben-macdonald/29140
Adding my slow clap in as well. Question from a new fan, did that guy do something last year and that's why we hate him?
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!

RichH

Quote from: BearLoverCornell was clearly the better team last night. On the road, down six injured players, they controlled the game. Dartmouth created opportunities off Cornell turnovers but otherwise they got pushed around and outskated. For a team that's supposedly going to compete for the ECAC, Dartmouth was pretty unimpressive.

Unimpressive or not to your expert eye, they're now 5-0 with wins agains Harvard, Quinnipiac, and Cornell. They beat Princeton handily. They were picked 3rd in the coaches poll, above Harvard and Clarkson.  I don't know what more they have to do to signal that they're "supposedly" going to compete for the ECAC.


QuoteCornell lost this game because of some of the worst special teams and some of the worst turnovers I can remember seeing from a Cornell team. Are the top three lines just exhausted from being over-shifted? There are big costs to not being able to field a full team.

Completely agree.  Having so many out is putting players who never have never played on a line together. Line familiarity and chemistry is important to a team like this with no Morgan Barron type to carry the weight.

RichH

Quote from: stereax
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: TrotskyThe Fuscos make me understand how the Hatfields felt.

I didn't want this to go without recognition, so here's a slow clap.

A reminder for Saturday:
https://gocrimson.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/ben-macdonald/29140
Adding my slow clap in as well. Question from a new fan, did that guy do something last year and that's why we hate him?

The Fusco brothers starred for Harvard back in their dynastic period (1980s). Trotsky is having mild PTSD seeing Mark's son. John Fusco scored twice against Cornell in the ECAC Semifinals (and also scored twice at Lynah) last season.

stereax

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: stereax
Quote from: RichH
Quote from: TrotskyThe Fuscos make me understand how the Hatfields felt.

I didn't want this to go without recognition, so here's a slow clap.

A reminder for Saturday:
https://gocrimson.com/sports/mens-ice-hockey/roster/ben-macdonald/29140
Adding my slow clap in as well. Question from a new fan, did that guy do something last year and that's why we hate him?

The Fusco brothers starred for Harvard back in their dynastic period (1980s). Trotsky is having mild PTSD seeing Mark's son. John Fusco scored twice against Cornell in the ECAC Semifinals (and also scored twice at Lynah) last season.
Ahhh I see, thanks! I heard Fusco a lot on the broadcast and was wondering. Thought it was because there are two of them and they were so frequently talked about. Though my question was originally for McDonald actually, I'm enjoying the lore haha!
Law '27, Section C denizen, liveblogging from Lynah!