Opponent and other news and results of interest 2024-2025

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Tom Lento

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Quote from: imafrshmnAttendance for Friday night's ECAC QF games was pretty poor, especially in Hamilton and Potsdam. Feels like the end of an era, and not just for Schafer.
Since when have Colgate or Clarkson had good crowds? Also it's spring break I think. Aside from Cornell, attendance in the ECAC/most of college hockey is embarrassing and has been for a long time.

Clarkson's a sad story, honestly. They used to have great crowds both home and away, second only to Cornell, but that ended with the Mark Morris scandals in the early 2000s (maybe late 90s?) and ensuing run of mediocre to poor results. They had a great program back in the day but it's probably been 20 years since anybody would describe it as such.

underskill

Weren't they on a bit of an upswing pre-covid or is that just me hoping Casey Jones is adequate replacement

VIEWfromK

Quote from: underskillWeren't they on a bit of an upswing pre-covid or is that just me hoping Casey Jones is adequate replacement

They out-Schafer'd us for a bit although the one ECAC playoff game Big Red had some questionable calls go against them with the Malott and Galajda injuries.

dbilmes

Colgate wasn't the only team to get hit with a too many men on the ice penalty when trying to pull their goalie at the end of the game. The same thing happened to Union with 1:07 remaining in it's one-goal loss to Dartmouth. What are the odds are that happening in two games on the same night?

RichH

Quote from: underskillWeren't they on a bit of an upswing pre-covid or is that just me hoping Casey Jones is adequate replacement

The three seasons before the pandemic interruptions, Clarkson finished 10th, 5th, and 9th in the Pairwise and captured an ECAC Championship.

Scersk '97

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Quote from: underskillWeren't they on a bit of an upswing pre-covid or is that just me hoping Casey Jones is adequate replacement

The three seasons before the pandemic interruptions, Clarkson finished 10th, 5th, and 9th in the Pairwise and captured an ECAC Championship.

And crowd-wise, things haven't been the same since they moved from Walker to Cheel, which happened after 1990-91. It's an instructive example of what happens when you close an old barn and move to an antiseptic new "facility."

upprdeck

moving to a new building doesnt mean less people will come. In general though attendance is down all over for sports I do think the designers don't look at what makes a barn  a barn though,

Trotsky

Quote from: Scersk '97And crowd-wise, things haven't been the same since they moved from Walker to Cheel, which happened after 1990-91. It's an instructive example of what happens when you close an old barn and move to an antiseptic new "facility."
This.  So much this.

David Harding

AP reports  that University of Michigan is figuring out how to field a D1 women's ice hockey team.  Annual costs don't seem to be an obstacle, but rather facilities.  101-year-old Yost Arena has limited space and ice time available.

ugarte

Quote from: David HardingAP reports  that University of Michigan is figuring out how to field a D1 women's ice hockey team.  Annual costs don't seem to be an obstacle, but rather facilities.  101-year-old Yost Arena has limited space and ice time available.
current title ix enforcement means you can make them get into gear at home and hitchhike to road games.

adamw

Quote from: RichH
Quote from: imafrshmnAttendance for Friday night's ECAC QF games was pretty poor, especially in Hamilton and Potsdam. Feels like the end of an era, and not just for Schafer.

I feel like that's always the case for this round. Spring Break has already been mentioned as one reason. I don't know if it's still true, but I thought the league set ticket prices for this tournament? Always a killer at Clarkson where students got in for free during the regular season, but then had to pay to get into QF games. At Cornell, the QF tickets were sold as an "add on" option that a lot of people wouldn't pay extra for when ordering season tickets in September.

Indeed. Every year at this time, someone laments the horrible crowd at one location and believes the program is coming to an end. And every year, it follows that someone(s) point out that this happens everywhere in the playoffs. Just last weekend, Minnesota -- which typically sells out 9,000/game -- had about 1/3rd that for a Big Ten playoff game.
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Jim Hyla

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Scersk '97And crowd-wise, things haven't been the same since they moved from Walker to Cheel, which happened after 1990-91. It's an instructive example of what happens when you close an old barn and move to an antiseptic new "facility."
This.  So much this.

 Well Clarkson's attendance is 87% of capacity

We are 1% behind Q for % of capacity, but #1 in ECAC for average attendance, 1100 ahead of Q.

Clarkson is #3 in average attendance.

So I don't think they are complaining about their move.
"Cornell Fans Made the Timbers Tremble", Boston Globe, March/1970
Cornell lawyers stopped the candy throwing. Jan/2005

upprdeck

Clarkson went from an 1800 seat to a 3000 seat and avg 2600. They are fine

If Cornell was still pre-reno we would probably be closer to selling out as well by a small amount.

Trotsky

I have the sad we don't sell out.  :-/

Hopefully time is a flat circle and someday Lynah will once again be the toughest ticket in town.  Darwinian struggle for tickets = smaller % lofo facetime fans = more intense crowd.

But mostly I fear they'll destroy it when we leave Lynah someday.  The aesthetic and commercial preferences driving decision-making have been slowly improving since they hit rock bottom about 2000, but we are still deep in the Mindless Greedy Barbarian cul de sac.

May Lynah last until after The Revolution.

upprdeck

Lynah isnt Lynah already.

No place to really put it on campus and if it goes off campus it becomes even less of a thing.

if they had the money leave it. see if some scheme can redo the concrete and the seating.  reduce capacity about 10-15% if that works and remove 2 rows.

the problem being the townie side still sells pretty well.

SU just went thru this same issue but Lynah is even tighter.