Recruits 2025 and Beyond

[ugarte]

Senor Ugarte — I was fast clicking through this oh-yeah=sez-you thread, then you crashed the party and made a common-sense point. Gad, so jarring.

i apologize it won't happen again

[Trotsky]

Jesus.  Trotsky realizing he's not the most deeply cynical person in a thread for once: ::scared::

I think the Ivies may eventually "do the right thing after exhausting all other possibilities."  The grad student restriction is even more pathetically stupid Dignity Theatre than what we usually do to burnish the Pick Me academia knob, so they may quietly let it expire.

That we ever grow up enough to fully separate students from revenue-generating circus performers is unlikely -- the payoff is too high.  But it's an uncomfortable world being less hypocritical than Alabama.

[Give My Regards]

Jesus.  Trotsky realizing he's not the most deeply cynical person in a thread for once: ::scared::

I think the Ivies may eventually "do the right thing after exhausting all other possibilities."  The grad student restriction is even more pathetically stupid Dignity Theatre than what we usually do to burnish the Pick Me academia knob, so they may quietly let it expire.

Ivy football is finally, begrudgingly, allowing its champ to participate in the FCS (Div. I-AA) playoffs, starting with the 2025 season.  It only took 47 years, so yeah, there's hope.

[upprdeck]

with budget cuts who knows whats sports will be left

[Jeff Hopkins '82]

allow grad student athletes

What is the given rationale for this Ivy rule, BTW?  I mean, I get that everything we do is to polish the snobbery discriminator that makes idiots in Mineola pay 5x the tuition for an undergrad business degree they could get at SUNY, but why do we shoot ourselves in the dick on graduate students of all people?  They are, by definition, good scholars.  I think it actually works against the brand to so publicly fuck them.

i think it historically has been about how the ivy league wants to incorporate athletics into the larger academic picture. it is intentionally indifferent to whether it affects competitiveness at the national level. i'm not making a value judgment about it but the people who created the rule certainly were. given the increasing profile of college sports, and the ivies very clearly being intentional about wanting to be competitive in the current landscape, it will be interesting to see how the irresistable force of tradition takes on the immovable object of capitalism.

Have you been following the news? Columbia, Harvard, Penn can hardly raise the white flag fast enough. ::deadhorse::

i know that they are similar but the venn diagram of fascism and capitalism aren't a *perfect* circle

Add in malignant narcisism, and you get pretty close.

[chimpfood]

Cowichan valley is playing their fourth game in six days and roest still can't sniff playing time even after dropping down leagues. I don't have much trust for him or Katz at this point so hopefully Keopple steps up next year and we can recruit a stud for 2026/27.

[ugarte]

Cowichan valley is playing their fourth game in six days and roest still can't sniff playing time even after dropping down leagues. I don't have much trust for him or Katz at this point so hopefully Keopple steps up next year and we can recruit a stud for 2026/27.

reading the kovich article i saw that umd had a goalie in the portal. maybe a trade?

[Pghas]

Wishart is currently a freshman at Middlebury College.

I had heard this as well but he plays for the St Cloud Norsemen in the NAHL.  Since 1/24 he's got 12g/14a/26 pts in 24 games.  Don't think he's coming to Cornell but would hope he gets to play somewhere.

[chimpfood]

End of regular season lines for our USHL guys, in order of my favorite to least favorite recruit:

Xavier Veilleux(D): 61 games, 8 goals, 33 assists, 41 points, +24, 30 PIM.
I really like Veilleux because a. We stole him from Harvard and b. I think he can fill the offensive void that we have on defense right now after losing Rego and Robertson, I think he is a sure bet to come next year and hopefully can produce right away.

Aiden Long (F): 62 games, 22 goals, 37 assists, 59 PIM.
I like Long as a prospect but the penalty minutes scare me, you really cant play like that in college when each game is so important. He's a great scorer and wears the A for his team. Can also be counted on to come in next year and should produce immediately.

Gio Diguilian (F): 58 games, 22 goals, 29 assists, 51 points, 32 PIM.
For me Diguilian marks the end of our top tier of recruits. The one thing that concerns me is his weight, 6 feet 160 sounds a little small to thrive in the ECAC which is why I put Long above him. But, He's pretty much a point a game which is very impressive and he should be another guy that definitely comes next year and produces.

Cole Tuminaro (D): 1 game, 0 goals, 0 assists, 0 points, +1, 2 PIM.
It feels like cheating to include Tuminaro but he exclusively play in the USHL this season, presumably getting a season ending injury in his first game. I would wager that he stays in the juniors another year given that he only turned 18 in January but I really like this kid as a prospect when he does come. He was on some NHL draft rankings at some point if I remember correctly.

Hudson Gorski (D): 59 games, 3 goals, 16 assists, 19 points, -2, 94 PIM.
I could see Gorski being a good all around defenseman for us but again the penalty minutes are ridiculous and not going to be acceptable in college. He starts on his team so he is probably good defensively and has fine offensive numbers. I'm hopeful for him if he can fix that though and he probably comes and gets a spot in the lineup for us next year.

Alex Pelletier (F): 60 games, 16 goals, 21 assists, 37 points, 30 PIM.
Pelletier seems like a solid supporting player who could fit into a Jake Kraft type of role for this team, just a bit taller. He is also very likely to come in for next season.

Henry Major (F): 54 games, 4 goals, 7 assists, 11 points, 12 PIM.
Charlie's brother, of course. Although I'm sure he's eager to join his brother he certainly needs at least one more year in the juniors, and he just turned 18. Not too worried about the point production for a young guy but he's only 5 foot 8 which isn't ideal. We'll probably see him in 26 or 27.

Micheal Sandruck (F): 43 games, 5 goals, 5 assists, 10 points, 146 PIM.
Another guy with a ridiculous penalty minutes total and he certainly does not have the points to back it up. He's 19 so I hope we can get him another year in the juniors before we see him here. Just not enough production to entice me to want to have him here in the fall.

That's all of our guys that ended the season in the USHL, I'll probably do the same thing for the BCHL when it ends.

[The Rancor]

Alex Pelletier - son of JM Pelletier?

[upprdeck]

Do these guys play in leagues with fighting with the higher penalty minutes?

All it takes is a couple 10min Misconducts to really skew the numbers as well.

[Trotsky]

Alex Pelletier - son of JM Pelletier?

Alex born Grandy, CT Jun 01, 2005.  JHean-Marc was playing for Springfield, MA. Driving distance 24 miles.

Let's say 67% chance of yes.

[BearLover]

End of regular season lines for our USHL guys, in order of my favorite to least favorite recruit:

Xavier Veilleux(D): 61 games, 8 goals, 33 assists, 41 points, +24, 30 PIM.
I really like Veilleux because a. We stole him from Harvard and b. I think he can fill the offensive void that we have on defense right now after losing Rego and Robertson, I think he is a sure bet to come next year and hopefully can produce right away.

Aiden Long (F): 62 games, 22 goals, 37 assists, 59 PIM.
I like Long as a prospect but the penalty minutes scare me, you really cant play like that in college when each game is so important. He's a great scorer and wears the A for his team. Can also be counted on to come in next year and should produce immediately.

Gio Diguilian (F): 58 games, 22 goals, 29 assists, 51 points, 32 PIM.
For me Diguilian marks the end of our top tier of recruits. The one thing that concerns me is his weight, 6 feet 160 sounds a little small to thrive in the ECAC which is why I put Long above him. But, He's pretty much a point a game which is very impressive and he should be another guy that definitely comes next year and produces.

Cole Tuminaro (D): 1 game, 0 goals, 0 assists, 0 points, +1, 2 PIM.
It feels like cheating to include Tuminaro but he exclusively play in the USHL this season, presumably getting a season ending injury in his first game. I would wager that he stays in the juniors another year given that he only turned 18 in January but I really like this kid as a prospect when he does come. He was on some NHL draft rankings at some point if I remember correctly.

Hudson Gorski (D): 59 games, 3 goals, 16 assists, 19 points, -2, 94 PIM.
I could see Gorski being a good all around defenseman for us but again the penalty minutes are ridiculous and not going to be acceptable in college. He starts on his team so he is probably good defensively and has fine offensive numbers. I'm hopeful for him if he can fix that though and he probably comes and gets a spot in the lineup for us next year.

Alex Pelletier (F): 60 games, 16 goals, 21 assists, 37 points, 30 PIM.
Pelletier seems like a solid supporting player who could fit into a Jake Kraft type of role for this team, just a bit taller. He is also very likely to come in for next season.

Henry Major (F): 54 games, 4 goals, 7 assists, 11 points, 12 PIM.
Charlie's brother, of course. Although I'm sure he's eager to join his brother he certainly needs at least one more year in the juniors, and he just turned 18. Not too worried about the point production for a young guy but he's only 5 foot 8 which isn't ideal. We'll probably see him in 26 or 27.

Micheal Sandruck (F): 43 games, 5 goals, 5 assists, 10 points, 146 PIM.
Another guy with a ridiculous penalty minutes total and he certainly does not have the points to back it up. He's 19 so I hope we can get him another year in the juniors before we see him here. Just not enough production to entice me to want to have him here in the fall.

That's all of our guys that ended the season in the USHL, I'll probably do the same thing for the BCHL when it ends.

Tuminaro has been on both NHL central scouting rankings so far. Though, in the midterm rankings he was listed under "limited viewing" because of his injury. Because he's been out all season, he probably won't get drafted and will need to spend another year in juniors. We will really need to hope he is able to recover and reach his (apparently very high) potential.

As for the penalty minutes, it's probably a function of fighting and game misconducts more than bad discipline.  

I am pretty sure Vellieux, DiGiulian, Long, Pelletier, Gorski come next year, and the others the following year.

[chimpfood]

You guys are right about the fighting causing the high penalty minutes, sorry about that, I forgot the U allows fighting

[CAS]

DiGiulian is listed at 178 lbs by his USHL team,
the Lincoln Stars.  Gio has also been ranked by NHL Central Scouting.