Cornell lacrosse 2025

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Trotsky

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2025 Schedule:

2/15: Lehigh (A)
2/22: Denver (H)
2/25: Hobart (A)
3/2: Richmond (A)
3/8: Penn State (H)
3/15: Princeton (H)
3/22: Yale (A)
3/29: Penn (H)
4/1: Albany (H)
4/5: Brown (A)
4/12: Syracuse (Neutral Site on Long Island)
4/19: Harvard (A)
4/26: Darmouth (H; Senior Day)

A standard schedule -- no Ohio State, Michigan, or Notre Dame this time. I wish Cornell played Princeton in the last game of the season.

Denver at home is a nice get.  

How is Albany good?

How is Albany good in anything?

Weder

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: mike1960
Quote from: upprdeckI saw this posted on fanlax

2025 Schedule:

2/15: Lehigh (A)
2/22: Denver (H)
2/25: Hobart (A)
3/2: Richmond (A)
3/8: Penn State (H)
3/15: Princeton (H)
3/22: Yale (A)
3/29: Penn (H)
4/1: Albany (H)
4/5: Brown (A)
4/12: Syracuse (Neutral Site on Long Island)
4/19: Harvard (A)
4/26: Darmouth (H; Senior Day)

A standard schedule -- no Ohio State, Michigan, or Notre Dame this time. I wish Cornell played Princeton in the last game of the season.

Denver at home is a nice get.  

How is Albany good?

How is Albany good in anything?

Hasn't Albany regressed to being a middle-of-the-road team since that stretch where they had the Thompsons and TD Ierlan? Are they the type of team that just looks to be strong enough to get into the tournament via an auto-bid? I don't follow lacrosse that closely.
3/8/96

scoop85

Quote from: Weder
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: mike1960
Quote from: upprdeckI saw this posted on fanlax

2025 Schedule:

2/15: Lehigh (A)
2/22: Denver (H)
2/25: Hobart (A)
3/2: Richmond (A)
3/8: Penn State (H)
3/15: Princeton (H)
3/22: Yale (A)
3/29: Penn (H)
4/1: Albany (H)
4/5: Brown (A)
4/12: Syracuse (Neutral Site on Long Island)
4/19: Harvard (A)
4/26: Darmouth (H; Senior Day)

A standard schedule -- no Ohio State, Michigan, or Notre Dame this time. I wish Cornell played Princeton in the last game of the season.

Denver at home is a nice get.  

How is Albany good?

How is Albany good in anything?

Hasn't Albany regressed to being a middle-of-the-road team since that stretch where they had the Thompsons and TD Ierlan? Are they the type of team that just looks to be strong enough to get into the tournament via an auto-bid? I don't follow lacrosse that closely.

Albany has gone through a lull over the past few years, but they were better last year and seem to be trending in a positive direction.

ugarte

Quote from: TrotskyHow is Albany good?

How is Albany good in anything?
Why wouldn't they be? It's one of the flagship universities in a big state. If they decide to commit resources, they can build something. Go off on Q all you like as a hedge fund with a diploma-granting arm but damn.

marty

Quote from: ugarte
Quote from: TrotskyHow is Albany good?

How is Albany good in anything?
Why wouldn't they be? It's one of the flagship universities in a big state. If they decide to commit resources, they can build something. Go off on Q all you like as a hedge fund with a diploma-granting arm but damn.

Because the SUNY schools really don't care?  There was hype when Albany tried to gain traction in football and lacrosse but except for those couple of years in lacrosse it was less influential in moving their cred than the Siena Poll.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Iceberg

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: mike1960
Quote from: upprdeckI saw this posted on fanlax

2025 Schedule:

2/15: Lehigh (A)
2/22: Denver (H)
2/25: Hobart (A)
3/2: Richmond (A)
3/8: Penn State (H)
3/15: Princeton (H)
3/22: Yale (A)
3/29: Penn (H)
4/1: Albany (H)
4/5: Brown (A)
4/12: Syracuse (Neutral Site on Long Island)
4/19: Harvard (A)
4/26: Darmouth (H; Senior Day)

A standard schedule -- no Ohio State, Michigan, or Notre Dame this time. I wish Cornell played Princeton in the last game of the season.

Denver at home is a nice get.  

How is Albany good?

How is Albany good in anything?

Albany is a pretty large school that is well-located and not too far from downstate, so it's very ideal for those kids who don't want to go too far away from Long Island but still want to play for a decent program. Also, the school has definitely shed away the party reputation it used to have before 10-15 years ago and has gotten better from what I understand

Swampy

Quote from: Iceberg
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: mike1960
Quote from: upprdeckI saw this posted on fanlax

2025 Schedule:

2/15: Lehigh (A)
2/22: Denver (H)
2/25: Hobart (A)
3/2: Richmond (A)
3/8: Penn State (H)
3/15: Princeton (H)
3/22: Yale (A)
3/29: Penn (H)
4/1: Albany (H)
4/5: Brown (A)
4/12: Syracuse (Neutral Site on Long Island)
4/19: Harvard (A)
4/26: Darmouth (H; Senior Day)

A standard schedule -- no Ohio State, Michigan, or Notre Dame this time. I wish Cornell played Princeton in the last game of the season.

Denver at home is a nice get.  

How is Albany good?

How is Albany good in anything?

Albany is a pretty large school that is well-located and not too far from downstate, so it's very ideal for those kids who don't want to go too far away from Long Island but still want to play for a decent program. Also, the school has definitely shed away the party reputation it used to have before 10-15 years ago and has gotten better from what I understand

Yeah, but it sure resembles a prison.

Local Motion

I think it's awesome the Cornell vs. Syracuse game will be played on Long Island on Saturday, April 12th!   Even though it's a travel contest, this venue is in the heart of both the Cornell and Syracuse alumni base.    Last year the Cornell vs. Notre Dame game drew a big crowd for both programs at Bethpage Stadium   The NYC Metro area is in Cornell's DNA.   Go Big Red!


BearLover

A few months ago there was some hoopla on here about future lacrosse recruiting classes not looking too good. Has that improved at all, or not really?

Swampy

Quote from: BearLoverA few months ago there was some hoopla on here about future lacrosse recruiting classes not looking too good. Has that improved at all, or not really?

It's hard to tell. I analyzed Inside Lacrosse's recruiting data last August, and I updated the analysis for incoming classes last fall (2024) and next (2025). Since then the status of a number of players has changed.

IL scores players with 5, 4, or 3 stars. It also ranks players and reports the ranks of the top 100 players. I examined the seven Ivy teams and Notre Dame (as a benchmark). For each team I recorded the number of players with 5, 4, 3, or 0 stars, the total and average number of stars on the team (players with no stars were scored as 1), and the number of ranked players on the team.

Evidently IL evaluated several players since last summer, since the number of ranked Ivy players now is about double what it was in August, and the numbers of stared players on individual teams also changed. Some players were ranked higher and some lower, but average star scores mildly increased. This probably reflects Ivy recruiting, which looks for good players with sufficient academic chops to be admitted and succeed at Ivy academics.

Cornell coaches say they don't put much stock in IL's and other rankings, and the pattern of changes reflects this. More than most Ivies, Cornell's scores increased substantially since last August. But also looking at the Ivy League as a whole, 2024 recruits score higher than 2025 recruits. For example, the average number of ranked player is 4.0 in 2024 and 3.3 in 2025. I believe this is mainly an artifact of IL's evaluation more than anything else. We should expect 2025 scores to increase during the spring, as the recruits play their senior season, mature, and IL gets a chance to rate them.

So, what do the data show us? First consider Notre Dame. For 2024, it had 3x5*, 5x4*, 4x3* -- for an average of 3.9 stars, with 7 ranked players. But winning consecutive NC's apparently does wonders for recruiting. For 2025 ND already has 4x5*, 8x4*, and 1x3* (average 4.2*), with 12 ranked players -- i.e., 12 of the top 100 in the country according to IL.

Compare Cornell. For 2024, the average 2024 recruit has 3.4 stars, and the average 2025 recruit has 3.5. This is below the 2024 league average, 3.5, and above the 2025 average of 3.1. Cornell also has 4 ranked (top 100) recruits in both years.

Now consider other Ivies. With an average of 4.1 stars, Princeton leads the pack in 2024. Other 2024 leaders include Harvard (3.8), Penn (3.5), and Brown (3.4). Princeton and Harvard also each have 6 ranked recruits, Penn has 5, and Yale has 4. A bit surprising, Yale averages only 3.3 stars and has 4 ranked players. In short, for 2024 Cornell's recruiting is about in the middle of the Ivies.

With the fall adjustments, Cornell looks better for 2025. We're tied with Princeton with the highest average number of stars (3.5). Yale follows with 3.4, and Harvard is at 3.2. Along with Penn, we have one of the two 5* recruits in the league (#18, attackman Rowyn Nurry). And Princeton has 6 top-100 ranked players, but we have 4 (as does Harvard).

In sum, as a whole the recruiting gap between the Ivies and the most elite programs is consistently substantial. But Cornell's most recent two recruiting classes are towards either the middle or the top of the Ivy League.

jjanow99

Report on FanLax of Cornell middle out for the year with torn ACL, anybody know who this is?

TimV

Quote from: jjanow99Report on FanLax of Cornell middle out for the year with torn ACL, anybody know who this is?

Another poster says it's Nikolic.
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

margolism

Wasn't he injured last season too? Or was that Cascaddan?

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: margolismWasn't he injured last season too? Or was that Cascaddan?
Cascadden, not Nikolic.  Latter a second line mid last year.
Al DeFlorio '65