Cornell lacrosse 2025

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billhoward

Updated with most recent information on top and probably not worth scrolling more than two screensful deep.

Week of 4/18/25, final week of Ivy lacrosse
Closer than expected games except for Princeton hammering Yale by 11. Cornell only by 2 over 2-4 (Ivy record) Dartmouth, Harvard only by 1 over 0-6 Brown, and #6 Notre Dame only by 2 at home over 1-5 / 4-10 Penn, which fell from ILT runner-up last year to not-in-tournament.

[b]2025 Ivy Men's Lacrosse End of Regular Season
School     Conf CPct. Overall Pct. Streak[/b]
Cornell     6-0 1.000 12-1 .923 W8  21st Ivy RS title
Princeton    5-1 .833 11-2 .846 W7  27 Ivy titles, not since 2015
Harvard     4-2 .667 10-3 .769 W1
Yale     3-3 .500 5-7 .417 L2
Dartmouth    2-4 .333 8-5 .615 L1
Penn     1-5 .167 4-10 .286 L7
Brown     0-6 .000 3-10 .231 L5 [/bold]

[b]Saturday 4/26 scores[/b]
Cornell 10, Dartmouth 8
Princeton 18, Yale 7
Harvard 11, Brown 10
Notre Dame 10, Penn 8

[b]Friday 5/2 Ivy Tournament, Schoellkopf Field[/b]
1 Cornell v. 4. Yale (ILT seeding),  4pm
2 Princeeton v. 4 Harvard, 6:30 pm
[b]Championship, Sunday 5/4, 1 pm
Ticket Prices         Fri & Sun  Fri-only  Sun-only
Premier/Field Level   $40        $25       $20[/b]
GA/Crescent           $20        $15       $10
12 & under (Crescent) $10        $5        $5
Cor-Yale-Princeton-Harvard students free, ditto kids 0-2
No discounted pricing for seniors cited

Tickets per Ivy League: https://app.fanbaseclub.com/Fan/Fixtures?fanStoreType=Events&clubId=398



Week of 4/19/25, penultimate week Ivy lacrosse
#1 Cornell 20, #10 Harvard 12
#2 Princeton 12, Penn 8
Dartmouth 13, Brown 9
Albany 15, Yale 14 OT (RPI Yale 17, Albany 47 before the game)
Other scores
#4  Army 20, Bucknell 11
#9  Notre Dame 12, #5 NC 6
#11 Richmond 14, #19 UMass 5
#12 Duke 11, #7 Syracuse 7

[b]Ivy Standings[/b]
1. Cornell    5-0  11-1  4/26 Dartmouth
2. Princeton  4-1  10-2  Penn
3. Harvard    3-0   9-3  @ Brown
3. Yale       3-2   5-5  @Princeton
5. Dartmouth  2-3   8-4  @Cornell
6. Penn       1-5   4-9  @Notre Dame
7. Brown      0-5   3-9  Harvard
8. Columbia   DNP

Be nice if Richmond moves into the top ten (gives us a top ten win), let's hope #7 Syracuse stays in the top ten (ditto), #10 Harvard may drop.

2025 Cornell men's lacrosse schedule, all dates/time now final. Cornell Saturday home games are 12 noon (Albany is Tuesday 7 pm). TV is ESPN+ for all home, all Ivy games. Cornell is pre-season ranked at #2 in the coaches polls, #3 in the media poll.

Cornell schedule link

2/15  @Lehigh 12:00 ESPN+
2/22  Denver [b]11 am[/b] was 12:00 (also: Clarkson, St Lawrence home hockey)
2/25  @Hobart Tuesday 5:00 (TV: HWS All-Access, a Sidearm Sports thing)
3/2   @Richmond Sunday 1:00 ESPN+
3/8   Penn State 12 noon
3/15  Princeton 12 noon
3/22  @Yale 1:00  
3/29  Penn 12 noon
4/1   Albany Tuesday 7 pm
4/5   @ Brown 12 noon
4/12  Syracuse @ Mitchel Field, Uniondale, LI, capacity 10,102) 4 pm TV: College Lacrosse Live  
4/19  @ Harvard 12 noon
4/26  Dartmouth 12 noon
5/2   Ivy Lacrosse tournament semifinals (Friday) at higher seed
5/4   ILT final (also NCAA tournament brackets announced)
5/6   2 play-in games ([url=https://www.ncaa.com/championships/lacrosse-men/d1/road-to-the-championships]NCAA selection criteria per NCAA[/url])
5/10  NCAA first round Saturday or Sunday 8 games
5/17  Quarterfinal round at Hofstra, Navy-Marine Corps Stadium
5/24  NCAA semifinals @ Gillette Stadium, Foxborough, MA
5/26  Memorial Day, title game, Gillette Stadium*
*2027 title game at Lincoln Financial Field Philadelphia, 2028 at Gillette, 2026 is STILL TBD.

[b]USILA coaches poll, pre-season[/b]
Nike/USILA Men's Division I Rankings
Rank  Team Points Prev
1  Notre Dame (1-0) 559(27) --
2  Cornell (-)        482(0) --
3  Syracuse (3-0) 469(1) --
4  Virginia (1-0) 441(0) --
5  Princeton (-) 434(0) --
6  Maryland (2-0) 421(0) --
7  Duke (2-0)        414(0) --
8  Johns Hopkins (3-0) 320(0) --
9  Denver (1-1)        310(0) --
10 Yale (-)        296(0) --
11 Georgetown (1-1) 269(0) --
12 Penn State (2-) 258(0) --
13 Army (1-0)        254(0) --
14 Penn (-)        213(0) --
15 Michigan (1-1) 172(0) --
16 North Carolina (1-0) 129(0) --
17 Towson (0-2)        122(0) --
18 Richmond (1-1) 47(0) --
19 Harvard (-)         44(0) --
20 Lehigh (0-2)         43(0) --
Receiving Votes:  Ohio State, Loyola, Saint Joseph's, Rutgers, UMBC, Utah, UAlbany, Villanova, Delaware, Boston U, Colgate
Combines pre-season poll with team records as of Feb. 10 2025



Posted earlier:

 
Inside Lacrosse Way Too Early Rankings (August 2024). Cornell is #5, plays #2, #3, #8, #9, #10, #13, #14, #17. Too bad for a third NYS opponent (other than Hobart, Syracuse) we got Albany this year not Army.

1  Notre Dame
2  Syracuse
3  Princeton
4  Maryland
5  Cornell
6  Virginia
7  Duke
8  Yale
9  Hopkins
10 Penn
11 Army
12 Georgetown
13 Denver
14 Penn State
15 Michigan
16 North Carolina
17 Harvard
18 Ohio State
19 Towson
20 Villanova



Posted earlier:
Time for a thread on the 2025 schedule when that comes available, recruits / lacrosse prospects, recruits who enroll and play in the spring of 2025, etcetera.
As we get closer to February and competition, I'll take off the "pre-season" in the subject line or, if this becomes really long, a separate season/games/weekly polls can be created.
Halloween week update: Schedule available for Cornell ... College ... but not our Big Red.

billhoward

Cornell recruits for the Classes of 2024, 2025, 2026, via https://www.insidelacrosse.com/recruiting/college/team/Cornell/33/2024

Transfer portal for all college teams, last updated mid-June, via https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/di-men-s-transfer-portal-tracker-2024/63595
From Cornell, midfielders Aiden Blake to Duke and Spencer Wirtheim to North Carolina, as grad students.

billhoward

August pre-season D1 men's lacrosse rankings via Inside Lacrosse, 8/22/24:  
2025 DI Men's Way-Ahead Rankings: Syracuse, Maryland Among Challengers To Notre Dame 3-Peat Bid

 1. Notre Dame
 2. Syracuse
 3. Princeton (too bad as of 2024 Tigers were not the final Ivy game for Cornell)
 4. Maryland
 5. Cornell (highest-ranked team that didn't make the 2024 tournament)
 6. Virginia
 7. Duke
 8. Yale
 9. Hopkins
10. Penn
11. Army (isn't it time they're back on Cornell's NYS / Pennsylvania rotation)?
12. Georgetown
13. Denver
14. Penn State
15. Michigan
16. North Carolina
17. Harvard
18. Ohio State
19. Towson
20. Villanova

big29red

Has Coach Buczek pissed off the usual HS stud prospects we usually see commit to Cornell by now for the Class of '30 Lax recruits? I say this tongue in cheek, but we are getting smoked on the recruiting front by most of the Ivy teams! Something seems amiss in Ithaca??? We have 2 3* recruits, at positions we really don't need-Goal and FOGO. We are even losing NY state recruits, to our competitors, I hope this is just an early aberration in this recruiting cycle?

scoop85

Quote from: big29redHas Coach Buczek pissed off the usual HS stud prospects we usually see commit to Cornell by now for the Class of '30 Lax recruits? I say this tongue in cheek, but we are getting smoked on the recruiting front by most of the Ivy teams! Something seems amiss in Ithaca??? We have 2 3* recruits, at positions we really don't need-Goal and FOGO. We are even losing NY state recruits, to our competitors, I hope this is just an early aberration in this recruiting cycle?

Still very early in the recruiting cycle and plenty of good talent to be had.

big29red

Hope so-we lose a lot of talent next year and the year after, really need to load up in the midfield. It seems like we loaded up on LSM and close D in the last two years, need much bigger faster, midfielders, as well as D middies now! We could also use some size at attack, the smaller attack get beat up very easily.

Swampy

Quote from: big29redHas Coach Buczek pissed off the usual HS stud prospects we usually see commit to Cornell by now for the Class of '30 Lax recruits? I say this tongue in cheek, but we are getting smoked on the recruiting front by most of the Ivy teams! Something seems amiss in Ithaca??? We have 2 3* recruits, at positions we really don't need-Goal and FOGO. We are even losing NY state recruits, to our competitors, I hope this is just an early aberration in this recruiting cycle?

Don't underestimate the 3* recruits. As scoop85 said, it's still early in the recruiting season. Also, these guys are in the Class of 2026, which means guys like Xavier are still 16 Y.O. Give them time. I don't know how these two will turn out, but I'd be willing to bet at least one or more 3*'s in this class will surpass guys who are 5* now by the time their college careers are over.

Then there's this:
Quote from: 'Addicted To Getting Better': Adler's Ascension Into One Of The Best Defensemen In The WorldBut then, [club coach] Miller sent his highlight tape to Cornell assistant coach Jordan Stevens.

"I still remember vividly that call," said Adler. "And it was Coach Stevens from Cornell, which was surreal to me because Max Seibald is a Cornell legend and I grew up five houses over from him. So I always looked up to him. I actually played with a Cornell dyed head growing up throughout middle school. So that was that. And then honestly, it was my first time talking to a coach. I mean, obviously smart, respectful, but like I just gave him my story. I was like, 'Look, man, like I just need someone to take a chance on me.' And he loved it. And he's like, 'dude, I actually see a lot of potential in you,' but he never saw me play."

Some coaches just have the knack of recognizing and developing talent. Even if a coach misses 75% of the time, 1-in-4 is not too bad a record if you're developing HOF talent.

billhoward

I have been scanning the various Class of '25 (high school class of, so college class of '29, i.e. freshmen in fall 2025), Class of '26 lacrosse player rankings and supposed commitments. There seemed to be fewer-than-expected Cornell commits. Which could mean we're not recruiting well, or this is not the full sampling, or maybe Ivy coaches have to be more cautious until it's clear the players have the credentials to be admitted, or one or two other schools are siphoning would-have-been Cornellians such as, say, Notre Dame?

Regardless, it's not clear how accurate the 5-star, 4-star, etcetera rankings can be as future predictors. And hasn't Cornell gotten more out of a full team effort rather than living off of having the most HS 5-stars on the team?

We'll gain an advantage among the Ivies when the Meinig indoor field house finally opens in 2026. It appears to be past the local carping about forever chemicals in the rubbery crumbs sprinkled onto/into the plastic blades of grass. I see the NCAA says the dimensions are big enough for lacrosse play if desired (ie February) but it's not wide enough for soccer and not what's preferred to field hockey. The most recent Cornell Sun article gives a bigly amount of space to the critics  https://cornellsun.com/2024/09/06/environmental-advocates-cornell-athletics-dispute-over-artificial-turf-project/

big29red

I have been doing the same thing Bill- As I've mentioned above, something doesn't seem right with the '26 recruiting. Dartmouth, just today, announced a 5* attackman out of Loomis Chaffee, P-ton w/ another 4* pole out of Culver Academy. Folks have said "it's early, we will get ours:...etc. Previously, by this time in the past 3 years, we've had loaded classes! We lose a lot of talent in the next 2 years, now we're being out recruited by Dartmouth!!! I'm not buying the "excuses" of wait and see, and we get lower ranked players who rise up; we don't have anyone , or at least anyone that's come public other than 2 previously mentioned recruits (a goalie and FOGO). Cornell hasn't even listed the current  frosh recruits in the published roster on the Athletics website. Also, as per usual, we cannot compete w/ ND, Duke, UNC and UVA for the premier players, now we're losing them to Dartmouth. We can' get the kids from NY/LI to commit- that should be our bread and butter. The Meinig Fieldhouse will be just opened when these '26 recruits get on campus- the lack of an indoor facility should not be a deterrent.

I hope that the coaching staff is still intact and presenting a cohesive picture of what it means to be a Cornell lacrosse player. This all doesn't seem right???

Also, I wasn't complaining about the goalie and Fogo recruits only being 3* recruits; my point was that based on the 2 recruiting classes ahead of the '26's, we really don't need another goalie or FOGO- we need middies, d-middies and attackmen to replace what we're losing in the next 2 years. Preferably, some with size, speed and athleticism to match up with what the other Ivy's are bringing in!

big29red

Harvard just landed their 2nd 5* recruit!
A lefty attack from Deerfield! Described as follows: "a taller Jeff Teat"-
Oh well- maybe I'm over reacting about the lack of recruiting for this '26 cycle???

I assume we still have CB and JS as our coaches and they're not checked out, or asleep at the wheel?  ( I say this with just a bit of sarcasm)!

scoop85

Quote from: big29redHarvard just landed their 2nd 5* recruit!
A lefty attack from Deerfield! Described as follows: "a taller Jeff Teat"-
Oh well- maybe I'm over reacting about the lack of recruiting for this '26 cycle???

I assume we still have CB and JS as our coaches and they're not checked out, or asleep at the wheel?  ( I say this with just a bit of sarcasm)!

I'll admit to be a little bit concerned that we haven't made a bigger splash in the current recruiting cycle compared with some of our peers. Hopefully we start getting some more commitments soon .

big29red

Yes- this is a bit disconcerting. We are usually right up there with Princeton and Yale for recruiting, we are now behind, even lagging in back of Dartmouth. We usually don't keep up with the $$$ (ACC, Big 10)schools, but the other Ivy's?? Something seems a little askew up in Ithaca!

semsox

Not to be blunt, but I kind of feel like the 'concern' being discussed here is not really based in reality? What about our coaching staff over the past few seasons would lead someone to believe they are suddenly dropping the ball on recruiting? What kind of track record do these recruiting lists have that would make one think they should be treated as a true report card on the incoming class? Until I see a drop off on the field, the recruiting rankings, etc. are just a distraction

big29red

The drop off will not be seen this upcoming season, we have the horses! 2026-8, will be tough if the recruiting doesn't pick up to the level of our peers in the Ivy. It's no wonder that Coach Moran's teams in the 70's won as much as they did- he got all the top recruits on Long Island and brought in the Canadians. Top it off with the great coaching ( which we currently have), made for championship seasons!

Swampy

Quote from: semsoxNot to be blunt, but I kind of feel like the 'concern' being discussed here is not really based in reality? What about our coaching staff over the past few seasons would lead someone to believe they are suddenly dropping the ball on recruiting? What kind of track record do these recruiting lists have that would make one think they should be treated as a true report card on the incoming class? Until I see a drop off on the field, the recruiting rankings, etc. are just a distraction

I don't think we can have it both ways. When Jeff Teat signed with Cornell as the top recruit in his class, there was lots of ballyhoo. And Jeff delivered, even if COVID cheated us (and him) out of his full potential time in Ithaca. And four-stars are the majority of recruits for years '24 & '25. Currently, recruiting for '26 is strangely out of whack with other years.