Men's Lax Tournament 2024

BearLover · April 21, 2024, 10:54:48 AM

Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: upprdeckwhats a 4 way tie look like?
It looks unlikely in the extreme. As a practical matter, Cornell ain't gonna lose to 0-5 Dartmouth.

C'mon, man.

mike1960 · April 21, 2024, 11:30:47 AM

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: billhoward
Quote from: upprdeckwhats a 4 way tie look like?
It looks unlikely in the extreme. As a practical matter, Cornell ain't gonna lose to 0-5 Dartmouth.
C'mon, man.

Big Green feels a little bit like a "trap" game. I hope we don't see another really slow start.

upprdeck · April 21, 2024, 11:37:54 AM

It would be a disappointing loss for sure. The NCAA is not a lock, and a bad loss would really hurt if they don't win the IVY.

Dart lost to the top teams by 7-10-3 and Harvard by 6 brown by 3.

Al DeFlorio · April 21, 2024, 01:08:40 PM

Quote from: upprdeckIt would be a disappointing loss for sure. The NCAA is not a lock, and a bad loss would really hurt if they don't win the IVY.

Dart lost to the top teams by 7-10-3 and Harvard by 6 brown by 3.

Led Yale 7-1; led Brown through much of game.

Still remember the Dartmouth game at Foxborough in 2010 when a Dartmouth goalie named Fergus Campbell knocked off a 7-1 Cornell team 8-6 with 16 saves. There's also the game referenced above, two years ago in Hanover, when it took a Billy Coyle goal with three minutes left to win it, 8-7. That Cornell team was a national finalist. So...you never know.

billhoward · April 21, 2024, 01:18:23 PM

Quote from: upprdeckIt would be a disappointing loss for sure. The NCAA is not a lock...

Take solace in the soothing thought of a great Canadian/American sportswriter. Ignore Eccesiastes 9:11.

Quote from: Hugh Keough, 1864-1912"The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the best way to bet,"

(Grantland Rice used the line also, and credits Keough.)

billhoward · April 21, 2024, 10:24:27 PM

RPI after weekend of 4/21 (ie Cornell-Harvard et al) to see how close the Ivy final weekend's games might be if RPI is an indicator:

Code Select

[b]Lax RPI going into final weekend of Ivy play[/b]
(1. Duke
(2. Notre Dame) 
...
 8. Cornell  (one place ahead of Penn State) 
10. Yale
12. Penn   
15. Princeton    
19. Harvard 
38. Brown 
60. Dartmouth (of 76 ranked teams)

per https://lacrossereference.com/stats/rpi-d1-men/

upprdeck · April 22, 2024, 09:55:02 AM

It's going to be tight if we don't win the first playoff game.

If we were to lose to Penn we would have 2 losses to them.

Win the IVY and we could get to 5-6 type seed.

billhoward · April 23, 2024, 03:45:13 PM

This schedule 10 days in advance of the Ivy League Lacrosse Tournament has the 2-3 seeds playing the early game at 6 pm, the 1-4 seeds playing at 8:30 pm, then the title game at 1 pm. When it was neutral-site last year, I believe the 1-seed got the early game. Ignore that the graphic has all 3 games Sunday May 5. It should be semifinals Friday, day off Saturday, title game Sunday. Games on ESPNU.

mike1960 · April 23, 2024, 07:35:31 PM

Quote from: billhowardThis schedule 10 days in advance of the Ivy League Lacrosse Tournament has the 2-3 seeds playing the early game at 6 pm, the 1-4 seeds playing at 8:30 pm, then the title game at 1 pm. When it was neutral-site last year, I believe the 1-seed got the early game. Ignore that the graphic has all 3 games Sunday May 5. It should be semifinals Friday, day off Saturday, title game Sunday. Games on ESPNU.

Everything on May 5th?

Al DeFlorio · April 23, 2024, 08:51:21 PM

Quote from: mike1960
Quote from: billhowardThis schedule 10 days in advance of the Ivy League Lacrosse Tournament has the 2-3 seeds playing the early game at 6 pm, the 1-4 seeds playing at 8:30 pm, then the title game at 1 pm. When it was neutral-site last year, I believe the 1-seed got the early game. Ignore that the graphic has all 3 games Sunday May 5. It should be semifinals Friday, day off Saturday, title game Sunday. Games on ESPNU.

Everything on May 5th?

Read Bill's posting.

billhoward · April 23, 2024, 09:08:41 PM

I think, ah, the Ivy League was in a deadline crush, say, and somebody didn't proofread the sketch that became the graphic. Everybody, everywhere, doing online stuff feels rushed. But they also know, if they make a mistake, they can correct later that day, or tomorrow. In print, you're kind stuck, except you run a correction in a future issue. I'm sure it's two semifinal games Friday, title game Sunday. The order of semifinal games (Friday) has changed from the 1-seed going early-game to second-game, the opposite of 2023, and the Sunday start time moved from noon to 1 pm. I'm using 2023 info from the game box scores.

billhoward · April 27, 2024, 07:23:44 PM

This year, Friday games are 6 and 8:30. When the day's temp will reach the high 70s in the afternoon. Won't be as nice Sunday, rain not (yet) forecast.

2023 it was:
Neutral site, Columbia
Games 6 pm (1-4 matchup) and 8:30 Friday, 12 noon Sunday
Cornell was the 1-seed, lost 22-15 to Yale

2022, at 1-seed, Brown
Games 6 pm and 8:30 (1-4 matchup), 12 noon Sunday
Cornell was the 2-seed, lost 14-11 to Yale

upprdeck · April 27, 2024, 09:06:46 PM

Getting out of a lAX game at 1030-1100 isnt fun. Good news is the crowd wont be that big that time of night.

Al DeFlorio · April 27, 2024, 09:55:54 PM

Quote from: upprdeckGetting out of a lAX game at 1030-1100 isnt fun. Good news is the crowd wont be that big that time of night.

Not so great for the winner of the late game, either.

billhoward · April 27, 2024, 10:07:23 PM

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: upprdeckGetting out of a lAX game at 1030-1100 isnt fun. Good news is the crowd wont be that big that time of night.
Not so great for the winner of the late game, either.

Not like NCAA hockey when one final-four semifinal was Thursday, one Friday, and the Friday winner has a huge disadvantage.