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[ugarte]

If we're 70% of the building for BU we can be 98% of the building for NMU.

But we'll be 98% of a crowd of maybe 12,000

Yes. There seems to be a disconnect here. Cornell's attendance at MSG is impressive, but the games are not full sellouts. Cornell has capped out its ticket sales. The question is how to fill the remaining 6,000-8,000 seats that aren't Cornell fans. These small schools in the Midwest with no alumni base in NYC aren't going to fill enough seats. This event isn't going to be run unless it turns a profit.

i think it can make a more modest profit in the off years as long as it keeps packing the building against BU, which it basically does. That said, the building is more fun when the opposing team's fans are lively. I've seen Green Bay Packers bars in NYC; bringing in Wisconsin would be awesome. I know this contradicts my first message but I contain multitudes because I have the space.

Minnesota would be a huge draw. All of the big midwest flagship schools send a ton of kids to NYC, not even including the kids from here that go there for college.

I wonder if Minnesota would be a draw.

Edit: specifically U of Minnesota. I'll leave speculation about the likelihood of Minnesota State Mankato or U Minnesota Duluth grads to wind up in NYC to others.

[Weder]

why would it cost 100K to send Cornell to the game.  20 rooms at $500 a night would only be 10K.  a few meals isn't costing that much, Are they staying 2 nights? Cornell busses down so that isn't all that much. It would be hard to ring up 5Ok in cost for BU and Cornell so 100K total maybe.

Yeah, my estimate of $100K was the rough total for 2 nights for two teams, but maybe they go back to campus right after the game. And I figure the traveling parties are bigger for the MSG game than a usual game when you throw in some university bigwigs, etc.

[George64]

It just depends on how big a profit you want to make.

Profits from ticket sales aren't the only metric that should be considered.  There are tons of alumni in the NY metropolitan that reconnect at MSG and it's great exposure for Cornell.  I have to think it factors into recruiting as well.

[Trotsky]

If we're 70% of the building for BU we can be 98% of the building for NMU.

But we'll be 98% of a crowd of maybe 12,000

Yes. There seems to be a disconnect here. Cornell's attendance at MSG is impressive, but the games are not full sellouts. Cornell has capped out its ticket sales. The question is how to fill the remaining 6,000-8,000 seats that aren't Cornell fans. These small schools in the Midwest with no alumni base in NYC aren't going to fill enough seats. This event isn't going to be run unless it turns a profit.

i think it can make a more modest profit in the off years as long as it keeps packing the building against BU, which it basically does. That said, the building is more fun when the opposing team's fans are lively. I've seen Green Bay Packers bars in NYC; bringing in Wisconsin would be awesome. I know this contradicts my first message but I contain multitudes because I have the space.

I wonder if Minnesota would be a draw.

Edit: specifically U of Minnesota. I'll leave speculation about the likelihood of Minnesota State Mankato or U Minnesota Duluth grads to wind up in NYC to others.

Minnesota and Wisconsin both travel very well.  I don't know about the Minnesota Variants.

[upprdeck]

traveling well within the school footprint or for NCAA games is different than traveling for a mid season game on a holiday weekend.

[Trotsky]

traveling well within the school footprint or for NCAA games is different than traveling for a mid season game on a holiday weekend.

Perhaps, but they're fanatics, and MSG would be a novel experience.

If you just want to fill the building, get LIU.  I would like to see us play storied teams: CC, Denver, NoDak, Minny, Wisco, Michigan, BC.  And we can use MSG as Lynah South to attract them.  Nobody has a better claim on the building than we do.  What I wouldn't give for hosting a holiday tournament there, and then co-hosting one in Lake Placid with Clarkson by leveraging our essentially sibling relationship with them at this point.

[upprdeck]

MSG is cool, but there a ton of people I know that won't go because it's a holiday weekend.  flying and hotels goes way up that weekend.  Local alums enjoy it for sure.

[CU2007]

traveling well within the school footprint or for NCAA games is different than traveling for a mid season game on a holiday weekend.

Perhaps, but they're fanatics, and MSG would be a novel experience.

If you just want to fill the building, get LIU.  I would like to see us play storied teams: CC, Denver, NoDak, Minny, Wisco, Michigan, BC.  And we can use MSG as Lynah South to attract them.  Nobody has a better claim on the building than we do.  What I wouldn't give for hosting a holiday tournament there, and then co-hosting one in Lake Placid with Clarkson by leveraging our essentially sibling relationship with them at this point.

Could add an LIU series at the UBS Arena (new Islanders rink), similar to the game at Prudential Center (Devils) a few years back. Would be great for LIU's program too.

[ugarte]

traveling well within the school footprint or for NCAA games is different than traveling for a mid season game on a holiday weekend.

the number of minnesota and wisconsin natives/alumni in new york city would blow your mind

[Trotsky]

Screw it.  Host our Christmas tournament in Toronto.

[jtwcornell91]

If we're 70% of the building for BU we can be 98% of the building for NMU.

But we'll be 98% of a crowd of maybe 12,000

Yes. There seems to be a disconnect here. Cornell's attendance at MSG is impressive, but the games are not full sellouts. Cornell has capped out its ticket sales. The question is how to fill the remaining 6,000-8,000 seats that aren't Cornell fans. These small schools in the Midwest with no alumni base in NYC aren't going to fill enough seats. This event isn't going to be run unless it turns a profit.

i think it can make a more modest profit in the off years as long as it keeps packing the building against BU, which it basically does. That said, the building is more fun when the opposing team's fans are lively. I've seen Green Bay Packers bars in NYC; bringing in Wisconsin would be awesome. I know this contradicts my first message but I contain multitudes because I have the space.

I wonder if Minnesota would be a draw.

Edit: specifically U of Minnesota. I'll leave speculation about the likelihood of Minnesota State Mankato or U Minnesota Duluth grads to wind up in NYC to others.

tUMD would be a good opponent, between their three recent NCAA titles, and fans who, at least 20 years ago, were a lot of fun.  I don't know about numbers, though.

[Beeeej]

Just got a message from Ticketmaster that Frozen Apple tickets go on sale tomorrow - Cornell vs. Quinnipiac. Ugh.

[arugula]

Why a league opponent?  Does this mean that they really couldn't get a high end non-league opponent to play a game at MSG?  Hard to believe

[Beeeej]

Why a league opponent?  Does this mean that they really couldn't get a high end non-league opponent to play a game at MSG?  Hard to believe

It's happened before, as recently as 2018 vs. Harvard. It's a non-conference game for purposes of ECAC standings, but it'll still count for PWR, and as much as we don't love it, Quinnipiac is currently high-end.

[ugarte]

Why a league opponent?  Does this mean that they really couldn't get a high end non-league opponent to play a game at MSG?  Hard to believe

It's happened before, as recently as 2018 vs. Harvard. It's a non-conference game for purposes of ECAC standings, but it'll still count for PWR, and as much as we don't love it, Quinnipiac is currently high-end.

Good to see a quality opponent, local (and very successful) probably means a sellout. Risk of losing is high, so that'll be a tense leadup but... an ECAC opponent is kinda disappointing. I will be there happily all the same. It's not like I go to CT to see them play Quinny anyway.