2024-25 MEN'S SCHEDULE

[BearLover]

The only opponents that would sell enough tickets to make a profit are the Big 10 schools, BU, BC, maybe a few other Hockey East schools like UConn, and North Dakota.

[marty]

Notre Dame.  Battle of the retiring legends.

Rematch between the coaches.  LSS beating Cornell 5-4 in Albany in 1996 will be with me forever.

[dbilmes]

The only opponents that would sell enough tickets to make a profit are the Big 10 schools, BU, BC, maybe a few other Hockey East schools like UConn, and North Dakota.

If I recall correctly, UConn did not draw a big crowd to MSG a few years ago.

[RichH]

The only opponents that would sell enough tickets to make a profit are the Big 10 schools, BU, BC, maybe a few other Hockey East schools like UConn, and North Dakota.

If I recall correctly, UConn did not draw a big crowd to MSG a few years ago.

The only way UConn fans show up is to tell them it's a basketball game or something with former Whalers. Their new campus arena seats all of 2600, so even the administration knows they don't care.

[ugarte]

The only opponents that would sell enough tickets to make a profit are the Big 10 schools, BU, BC, maybe a few other Hockey East schools like UConn, and North Dakota.

If I recall correctly, UConn did not draw a big crowd to MSG a few years ago.

And they were a top 5 team at the time (and not for much longer).

[Trotsky]

If we're 70% of the building for BU we can be 98% of the building for NMU.

[arugula]

The only opponents that would sell enough tickets to make a profit are the Big 10 schools, BU, BC, maybe a few other Hockey East schools like UConn, and North Dakota.

If I recall correctly, UConn did not draw a big crowd to MSG a few years ago.

I died on this hill a couple of years arguing that UConn was a bad choice.

[scoop85]

If we're 70% of the building for BU we can be 98% of the building for NMU.

But we'll be 98% of a crowd of maybe 12,000

[BearLover]

If we're 70% of the building for BU we can be 98% of the building for NMU.

But we'll be 98% of a crowd of maybe 12,000

Yes. There seems to be a disconnect here. Cornell's attendance at MSG is impressive, but the games are not full sellouts. Cornell has capped out its ticket sales. The question is how to fill the remaining 6,000-8,000 seats that aren't Cornell fans. These small schools in the Midwest with no alumni base in NYC aren't going to fill enough seats. This event isn't going to be run unless it turns a profit.

[Weder]

If we're 70% of the building for BU we can be 98% of the building for NMU.

But we'll be 98% of a crowd of maybe 12,000

Yes. There seems to be a disconnect here. Cornell's attendance at MSG is impressive, but the games are not full sellouts. Cornell has capped out its ticket sales. The question is how to fill the remaining 6,000-8,000 seats that aren't Cornell fans. These small schools in the Midwest with no alumni base in NYC aren't going to fill enough seats. This event isn't going to be run unless it turns a profit.

It just depends on how big a profit you want to make. Say it costs $500,000 to rent MSG and pay arena staff for a night. (I have no idea if that's close to the actual cost, but it's a nice round number to play with.) And then say another $100,000 for travel/lodging expense for both teams. (which might be high? I have no idea.) If you draw 10,000 who spend an average of $70, you're turning a profit, and closer to 13,000 or 15,000 is pretty good.

EDIT: Random question for any tax pros: Can MSG offer reduced rental costs to a non-profit like Cornell and write that off? Then that might change the math quite a bit.

[ugarte]

If we're 70% of the building for BU we can be 98% of the building for NMU.

But we'll be 98% of a crowd of maybe 12,000

Yes. There seems to be a disconnect here. Cornell's attendance at MSG is impressive, but the games are not full sellouts. Cornell has capped out its ticket sales. The question is how to fill the remaining 6,000-8,000 seats that aren't Cornell fans. These small schools in the Midwest with no alumni base in NYC aren't going to fill enough seats. This event isn't going to be run unless it turns a profit.

i think it can make a more modest profit in the off years as long as it keeps packing the building against BU, which it basically does. That said, the building is more fun when the opposing team's fans are lively. I've seen Green Bay Packers bars in NYC; bringing in Wisconsin would be awesome. I know this contradicts my first message but I contain multitudes because I have the space.

[chimpfood]

My completely random guess that would make for a fun game is Notre Dame.

[Dafatone]

If we're 70% of the building for BU we can be 98% of the building for NMU.

But we'll be 98% of a crowd of maybe 12,000

Yes. There seems to be a disconnect here. Cornell's attendance at MSG is impressive, but the games are not full sellouts. Cornell has capped out its ticket sales. The question is how to fill the remaining 6,000-8,000 seats that aren't Cornell fans. These small schools in the Midwest with no alumni base in NYC aren't going to fill enough seats. This event isn't going to be run unless it turns a profit.

i think it can make a more modest profit in the off years as long as it keeps packing the building against BU, which it basically does. That said, the building is more fun when the opposing team's fans are lively. I've seen Green Bay Packers bars in NYC; bringing in Wisconsin would be awesome. I know this contradicts my first message but I contain multitudes because I have the space.

I wonder if Minnesota would be a draw.

Edit: specifically U of Minnesota. I'll leave speculation about the likelihood of Minnesota State Mankato or U Minnesota Duluth grads to wind up in NYC to others.

[Swampy]

BC could be excellent, as would Michigan or MSU.

There are very good teams further west (e.g., Denver), but how well would they travel to NYC on Thanksgiving weekend?

[upprdeck]

why would it cost 100K to send Cornell to the game.  20 rooms at $500 a night would only be 10K.  a few meals isn't costing that much, Are they staying 2 nights? Cornell busses down so that isn't all that much. It would be hard to ring up 5Ok in cost for BU and Cornell so 100K total maybe.