Odds of winning 2024 NCAAs

[billhoward]

An oddsmaking site (betting site) says Cornell men have the 11th best odds of winning the NCAAs (22/1), with North Dakota the favorite and Quinnipiac the only more highly regarded ECAC team. Cornell women have the seventh best odds of winning, with TOSU favored and ECAC teams Colgate, Clarkson and Quinnipiac rated above Cornell. From the site sportsbetting dotAG (Antigua and Barbuda)

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[b]NCAA Men's Hockey Championship[/b]                
North Dakota                 7/1
Wisconsin                   15/2
Boston College              17/2
Minnesota                    9/1
Boston University           10/1
Denver                      10/1
Maine                       12/1
Quinnipiac                  12/1
Michigan                    16/1
Michigan State              16/1
[b]Cornell                     22/1[/b]
Notre Dame                  25/1
Penn State                  35/1
Providence                  35/1
Saint Cloud State           35/1
Western Michigan            35/1
Minnesota State             40/1
New Hampshire               45/1
Arizona State               50/1
Harvard                     50/1
Minnesota Duluth            50/1
Ohio State                  50/1
Merrimack                   60/1
Nebraska Omaha              60/1
Northeastern                60/1
UMass Amherst               60/1
UMass Lowell                60/1
Connecticut                 75/1
Michigan Tech               75/1
Augustana                  100/1
Bemidji State              100/1
Colorado College           100/1
                       
[b]NCAA Women's Hockey Championship[/b]            
Ohio State                  23/4
Wisconsin                    6/1
Colgate                     17/2
Clarkson                    10/1
Quinnipiac                  14/1
Minnesota                   18/1
[b]Cornell                     20/1[/b]
Northeastern                20/1
Boston College              25/1
Mercyhurst                  25/1
Minnesota Duluth            25/1
Penn State                  25/1
Rensselaer                  25/1
Saint Cloud State           25/1
St. Lawrence                25/1
Vermont                     25/1
Yale                        25/1
Boston University           35/1
Minnesota State             40/1
RIT                         40/1
St. Anselm                  40/1
Stonehill                   40/1
Assumption University       45/1
New Hampshire               45/1
Lindenwood                  50/1
Long Island                 50/1
Maine                       50/1
Connecticut                 75/1
Robert Morris               75/1
Saint Thomas                75/1
Franklin Pierce            100/1
Providence                 100/1
Sacred Heart               100/1
Syracuse                   100/1

[Trotsky]

If this means I have only to wait another 22 years, I might make it.

[ursusminor]

It's hard to believe that the RPI women have a 25-1 shot of winning, tied for fifth in the ECAC.

[marty]

It's hard to believe that the RPI women have a 25-1 shot of winning, tied for fifth in the ECAC.

It's hard to believe that the odds makers will make money if a long shot wins either title.  Also I'm wondering if BearLover has wagered.

[abmarks]

Those odds don't look right.

Both Bovada and. DraftKings list us at +3500 (36:1).

[ursusminor]

Those odds don't look right.

Both Bovada and. DraftKings list us at +3500 (36:1).

Then that is off by a factor of about 2 which is not nearly as inaccurate as the RPI women's odds given. When I posted this on the RPI women's thread on USCHO, another poster gave the RPI women's odds as 4,000,000 to one which seems much more accurate to me.

[Trotsky]

Then that is off by a factor of about 2 which is not nearly as inaccurate as the RPI women's odds given. When I posted this on the RPI women's thread on USCHO, another poster gave the RPI women's odds as 4,000,000 to one which seems much more accurate to me.

I had a physics professor who argued that despite the probabilistic essence of subatomic phenomenon, some things that were not logically impossible nevertheless were impossible.  He gave the example of a tea kettle on the right front burner which suddenly reconstitutes itself on the left front burner because all particles happen to jump in exactly the same direction.  That can't ever happen, because if you ever observe it the odds are for all purposes infinitely higher that you've had a psychotic break from reality and imagined it.

[ursusminor]

Then that is off by a factor of about 2 which is not nearly as inaccurate as the RPI women's odds given. When I posted this on the RPI women's thread on USCHO, another poster gave the RPI women's odds as 4,000,000 to one which seems much more accurate to me.

I had a physics professor who argued that despite the probabilistic essence of subatomic phenomenon, some things that were not logically impossible nevertheless were impossible.  He gave the example of a tea kettle on the right front burner which suddenly reconstitutes itself on the left front burner because all particles happen to jump in exactly the same direction.  That can't ever happen, because if you ever observe it the odds are for all purposes infinitely higher that you've had a psychotic break from reality and imagined it.

The same list posted on the RPI women's thread on USCHO gives the Harvard women's odds as 100 trillion to 1. That might be worth betting a penny or two even with Harvard's problems although the bookie would probably disappear. :-D

[billhoward]

These are PR mailings sent to anybody who's been in publishing and drawn a breath in the last couple years, with the sender's hope something will be written and mention the name of the oddsmaker. Which I did but not in the form of a direct link.

[Scersk '97]

Then that is off by a factor of about 2 which is not nearly as inaccurate as the RPI women's odds given. When I posted this on the RPI women's thread on USCHO, another poster gave the RPI women's odds as 4,000,000 to one which seems much more accurate to me.

I had a physics professor who argued that despite the probabilistic essence of subatomic phenomenon, some things that were not logically impossible nevertheless were impossible.  He gave the example of a tea kettle on the right front burner which suddenly reconstitutes itself on the left front burner because all particles happen to jump in exactly the same direction.  That can't ever happen, because if you ever observe it the odds are for all purposes infinitely higher that you've had a psychotic break from reality and imagined it.

I've run into many walls. Never quantum tunneled.

[Trotsky]

Moved from ECAC thread:

I didn't want to start another thread, but feel free to move if in the wrong space:

NCAA Hockey Regionals to Home Sites

It is the right thing to do.  The temptation will be to make the games best-of-three.  TBH, I'd back that as well.  Anything to stop the factory schools with big rinks from buying their way to the F4, the way it is now.

Cornell since 2018:

2018 14 Princeton at 3 Cornell
2019 11 Cornell at 6 Northeastern
2020 16 somebody at 1 Cornell
2023 13 Cornell at 4 Denver

[upprdeck]

The way the crowds are going down at regionals it makes sense.. They get a few crowds of 5k now they would 8 crowds of 4-15K.. Less travel for 8 teams as well. less money paid out to arenas.

[scoop85]

The neutral site model simply hasn't worked. Time for a change.

[marty]

The neutral site model simply hasn't worked. Time for a change.

It worked fine when there were only 12 teams.  That may have been the newness of the format or the fact that you knew you would see two of the teams advance to the Frozen Four.  It also might have been that the the era of live sports attendance hadn't started to wane.

I felt more excitement then too.  As an alternative to ditching the neutral regionals could there be two locations with eight teams at each?

[BearLover]

Moved from ECAC thread:

I didn't want to start another thread, but feel free to move if in the wrong space:

NCAA Hockey Regionals to Home Sites

It is the right thing to do.  The temptation will be to make the games best-of-three.  TBH, I'd back that as well.  Anything to stop the factory schools with big rinks from buying their way to the F4, the way it is now.

Cornell since 2018:

2018 14 Princeton at 3 Cornell
2019 11 Cornell at 6 Northeastern
2020 16 somebody at 1 Cornell
2023 13 Cornell at 4 Denver

In 2018 we played BU.