The Ivy League Flunks Out

Started by George64, December 09, 2023, 12:09:06 PM

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George64

With hockey in hiatus and David Archer replaced, it's time for other things Ivy League, to wit, the pathetic performances by the presidents of Harvard and Penn before Congress. Maureen Dowd summed it up nicely in her Times op ed.  BTW, both used the same white-shoe law firm.

Say what you will about Martha Pollack, at least she hasn't embarrassed herself in front Congress like the mealymouthed presidents of our brethren institutions .  As she stated unequivocally, in early November, "We will not tolerate antisemitism at Cornell; indeed we will not tolerate hatred of any form, including racism or Islamophobia."  Maybe Cornell just has better lawyers.

In order to keep this apolitical, I won't say anything about Ivy League alums, representative Stefanik and senators DeSantis, Hawley, Cruz . . .

George64

Quote from: George64With hockey in hiatus and David Archer replaced, it's time for other things Ivy League, to wit, the pathetic performances by the presidents of Harvard and Penn before Congress. Maureen Dowd summed it up nicely in her Times op ed.  BTW, both used the same white-shoe law firm.

Say what you will about Martha Pollack, at least she hasn't embarrassed herself in front Congress like the mealymouthed presidents of our brethren institutions .  As she stated unequivocally, in early November, "We will not tolerate antisemitism at Cornell; indeed we will not tolerate hatred of any form, including racism or Islamophobia."  Maybe Cornell just has better lawyers.

First Penn loses its OC to Cornell, now president, Elizabeth Magill, and the chairman of its board of trustees resign after intense pressure from donors, politicians and alumni.  Go Quakers!

Trotsky

Let's stop before this starts.  

The virtue of the Cafe is not knowing for sure who is a dumbass.  That way we can root together without feeling animosity or  pity.

So let's not.

underskill

The rot starts at the top but it can't just be the presidents who are forced out. We need the trustees and admins out as well.

Iceberg

Penn (not counting the massive healthcare arm) is such a bubble in the city that I only heard about this when Huntsman basically called for Magill's head.

George64

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Quote from: George64With hockey in hiatus and David Archer replaced, it's time for other things Ivy League, to wit, the pathetic performances by the presidents of Harvard and Penn before Congress. Maureen Dowd summed it up nicely in her Times op ed.  BTW, both used the same white-shoe law firm.

Say what you will about Martha Pollack, at least she hasn't embarrassed herself in front Congress like the mealymouthed presidents of our brethren institutions .  As she stated unequivocally, in early November, "We will not tolerate antisemitism at Cornell; indeed we will not tolerate hatred of any form, including racism or Islamophobia."  Maybe Cornell just has better lawyers.

First Penn loses its OC to Cornell, now president, Elizabeth Magill, and the chairman of its board of trustees resign after intense pressure from donors, politicians and alumni.  Go Quakers!

Now, Harvard's president resigns.  While I despise her antagonist, Elise Stefanik, Claudine Gay's response to a simple question was truly insipid.  As a pundit said, "She was over-lawyered."  Can't a Harvard graduate think for herself!

As to plagiarism, technically she's guilty and in violation of the Harvard student code of conduct.  It's now going to be very difficult to reprimand a student for doing the same. I say, "A plague on both your Harvard's houses."  That said, lifting several sentences verbatim is stupid or, at best, lazy, but it's not the same as stealing someone's seminal idea and passing it off as ones own.  At least, she doesn't appear to be guilty of that.  Nonetheless, Harvard still sucks.

Trotsky

Quote from: George64the Harvard student code of conduct

Has anyone ever been able to say these words with a straight face?

marty

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Quote from: George64With hockey in hiatus and David Archer replaced, it's time for other things Ivy League, to wit, the pathetic performances by the presidents of Harvard and Penn before Congress. Maureen Dowd summed it up nicely in her Times op ed.  BTW, both used the same white-shoe law firm.

Say what you will about Martha Pollack, at least she hasn't embarrassed herself in front Congress like the mealymouthed presidents of our brethren institutions .  As she stated unequivocally, in early November, "We will not tolerate antisemitism at Cornell; indeed we will not tolerate hatred of any form, including racism or Islamophobia."  Maybe Cornell just has better lawyers.

First Penn loses its OC to Cornell, now president, Elizabeth Magill, and the chairman of its board of trustees resign after intense pressure from donors, politicians and alumni.  Go Quakers!

Now, Harvard's president resigns.  While I despise her antagonist, Elise Stefanik, Claudine Gay's response to a simple question was truly insipid.  As a pundit said, "She was over-lawyered."  Can't a Harvard graduate think for herself!

As to plagiarism, technically she's guilty and in violation of the Harvard student code of conduct.  It's now going to be very difficult to reprimand a student for doing the same. I say, "A plague on both your Harvard's houses."  That said, lifting several sentences verbatim is stupid or, at best, lazy, but it's not the same as stealing someone's seminal idea and passing it off as ones own.  At least, she doesn't appear to be guilty of that.  Nonetheless, Harvard still sucks.

The lifting of ideas from others in her papers was mimicked in her testimony.  She regurgitated the BS her overpaid attorneys gave her during their prep.
"When we came off, [Bitz] said, 'Thank God you scored that goal,'" Moulson said. "He would've killed me if I didn't."

Trotsky

She could have said "freedom of expression means what it says, asshole" and walked out.  But she equivocated like every mealy-mouthed corporate-academic President or Provost of the last 30 years would, and she wrote her own death sentence.  

Good riddance.

George64

Quote from: TrotskyShe could have said "freedom of expression means what it says, asshole" and walked out.  But she equivocated like every mealy-mouthed corporate-academic President or Provost of the last 30 years would, and she wrote her own death sentence.  

Good riddance.

I like Martha Pollack's written response when asked by some members of Congress to make clear Cornell's policies on genocide. "Genocide is abhorrent, and Cornell condemns calls for the genocide of any people. An explicit call for genocide, to kill all members of a group of people, would be a violation of our policies." Fittingly succinct, nothing about "context."  Of course, she might have added "Fuck you, assholes!" for emphasis.

Al DeFlorio

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Quote from: TrotskyShe could have said "freedom of expression means what it says, asshole" and walked out.  But she equivocated like every mealy-mouthed corporate-academic President or Provost of the last 30 years would, and she wrote her own death sentence.  

Good riddance.

I like Martha Pollack's written response when asked by some members of Congress to make clear Cornell's policies on genocide. "Genocide is abhorrent, and Cornell condemns calls for the genocide of any people. An explicit call for genocide, to kill all members of a group of people, would be a violation of our policies." Fittingly succinct, nothing about "context."  Of course, she might have added "Fuck you, assholes!" for emphasis.
Nice...but I keep hearing she hates football!::rolleyes::
Al DeFlorio '65

George64

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Quote from: George64I like Martha Pollack's written response when asked by some members of Congress to make clear Cornell's policies on genocide. "Genocide is abhorrent, and Cornell condemns calls for the genocide of any people. An explicit call for genocide, to kill all members of a group of people, would be a violation of our policies." Fittingly succinct, nothing about "context."  Of course, she might have added "Fuck you, assholes!" for emphasis.
Nice...but I keep hearing she hates football!::rolleyes::

It's rumored that's why she left Michigan.

George64

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Quote from: TrotskyShe could have said "freedom of expression means what it says, asshole" and walked out.  But she equivocated like every mealy-mouthed corporate-academic President or Provost of the last 30 years would, and she wrote her own death sentence.  

Good riddance.
I like Martha Pollack's written response when asked by some members of Congress to make clear Cornell's policies on genocide. "Genocide is abhorrent, and Cornell condemns calls for the genocide of any people. An explicit call for genocide, to kill all members of a group of people, would be a violation of our policies." Fittingly succinct, nothing about "context."  Of course, she might have added "Fuck you, assholes!" for emphasis.

Now, former Cornell trustee, Jon Lindseth '56, is calling for the ouster of President Pollack and Provost Kotlikoff.  Cornell Sun article

Trotsky

Quote from: George64Now, former Cornell trustee, Jon Lindseth '56, is calling for the ouster of President Pollack and Provost Kotlikoff.  Cornell Sun article

The Voice of Treason is all over it.  The only time the fasc mention Cornell they're jamming us into their imbecile narratives. (I mean, I guess that's true of everything.)

What's the decorous way for Cornell to send him a letter telling him GFY?




George64

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Quote from: George64Now, former Cornell trustee, Jon Lindseth '56, is calling for the ouster of President Pollack and Provost Kotlikoff.  Cornell Sun article

The Voice of Treason is all over it.  The only time the fasc mention Cornell they're jamming us into their imbecile narratives. (I mean, I guess that's true of everything.)

What's the decorous way for Cornell to send him a letter telling him GFY?




Unfortunately, James N. Bailey, Esq. has long since retired.