New Cornell football coach search

Started by Ken711, November 19, 2023, 06:18:13 PM

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Ken711

Quote from: TrotskyUnless we can find the football Schafer, I think about the only way we can get good coaching is to be a step on the ladder for an ascending coach.  Take D-2 phenoms, lose them in 3 years to an FBS school, and repeat.

I assume every year there are guys available from D-2 who have led their schools to a few seasons of > .750 ball.  That's where to look, and don't insist on loyalty.  Make sure some of their staff continues to transition the kids they recruit in the later seasons to the new guy's regime.

A quick review from the above link:
 
Pct  Yr
.815  5 Ernie McCook, Shepherd*
.800  6 Rich Wright, NW Missouri State
.786  3 Brian Wright, Pittsburg State
.786  3 Jeff Girsch, Angelo State



* Shepherd has a weirdly great theatre program.

I agree. I would gladly take a D2 or D3 coach that has built a successful program. We'll see what direction Cornell takes.

mike1960

Quote from: Trotsky* Shepherd has a weirdly great theatre program.

If McCook's hiring also included a little theater production at each halftime, I'm all for it.

billhoward

It feels as if new Ivy coaches who aren't successful are moved on inside of a half-dozen years (with exceptions) or else they do well and stay well over a decade: Bagnoli until recently, currently five others – Priore (Penn, 9 years), Surace (Princeton, 14), Reno (Yale, 12), Murphy (Harvard, 30) – are longstanding. Also all came from the Northeastern colleges and only Surace was a student at the school he now coaches. So this could be a long-term hire if we do it right.

Ken711

Quote from: billhowardIt feels as if new Ivy coaches who aren't successful are moved on inside of a half-dozen years (with exceptions) or else they do well and stay well over a decade: Bagnoli until recently, currently five others – Priore (Penn, 9 years), Surace (Princeton, 14), Reno (Yale, 12), Murphy (Harvard, 30) – are longstanding. Also all came from the Northeastern colleges and only Surace was a student at the school he now coaches. So this could be a long-term hire if we do it right.

Cornell did the "long-term" with Archer.  I hope they'll be successful and win at Cornell first and foremost, then we can worry about the long-term aspect.

billhoward

Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: billhowardIt feels as if new Ivy coaches who aren't successful are moved on inside of a half-dozen years (with exceptions) or else they do well and stay well over a decade: Bagnoli until recently, currently five others – Priore (Penn, 9 years), Surace (Princeton, 14), Reno (Yale, 12), Murphy (Harvard, 30) – are longstanding. Also all came from the Northeastern colleges and only Surace was a student at the school he now coaches. So this could be a long-term hire if we do it right.

Cornell did the "long-term" with Archer.  I hope they'll be successful and win at Cornell first and foremost, then we can worry about the long-term aspect.
Archer
Exception proves rule

Chris '03

"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

dbilmes

That didn't take long! They must have had in mind for a while.

tycho

Quote from: dbilmesThat didn't take long! They must have had in mind for a while.

Have to move quickly, so as to minimize disruption to recruiting. But Swanstrom's a natural fit. I expect the interest was mutual right off the bat.

Edit: Football Scoop reports that Yale co-DC Jay Anderson was a finalist as well.


George64

Quote from: Chris '03Opening at Harvard: https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/harvards-tim-murphy-retires-winningest-coach-in-school-ivy-league-history-took-home-10-conference-titles/

"Murphy, 67, took over the Crimson football program prior to the 1994 season at a time when Harvard had not won more than eight games in a season since 1919."

While true, prior to 1980, Ivy teams only played nine games, and before 1940 only eight, unless they played in a bowl game.

Trotsky

Interesting.

QuoteMiami tight end Cam McCormick said Thursday that he is coming back for a ninth season of college football.

He is believed to be the first with a ninth season granted by the NCAA. McCormick's career was derailed multiple times by season-ending injuries, some of which earned him a medical redshirt from the NCAA, and all players who participated in college athletics in 2020 got another year of eligibility because of the pandemic.

McCormick spent the first seven of his college seasons at Oregon, transferred to Miami for the 2023 season and will keep playing in 2024.

East Tennessee State said former linebacker Jared Folks was the NCAA's first eighth-year player when he played for the Bucs in 2021. There have been multiple athletes with seven years of college eligibility, including Isis Young — a women's basketball player who appeared for Florida, Fordham, Syracuse and Siena over her seven seasons and decided against getting an eighth year.

OTHER NEWS

dbilmes

Quote from: TrotskyInteresting.

QuoteMiami tight end Cam McCormick said Thursday that he is coming back for a ninth season of college football.

He is believed to be the first with a ninth season granted by the NCAA. McCormick's career was derailed multiple times by season-ending injuries, some of which earned him a medical redshirt from the NCAA, and all players who participated in college athletics in 2020 got another year of eligibility because of the pandemic.

McCormick spent the first seven of his college seasons at Oregon, transferred to Miami for the 2023 season and will keep playing in 2024.

East Tennessee State said former linebacker Jared Folks was the NCAA's first eighth-year player when he played for the Bucs in 2021. There have been multiple athletes with seven years of college eligibility, including Isis Young — a women's basketball player who appeared for Florida, Fordham, Syracuse and Siena over her seven seasons and decided against getting an eighth year.

OTHER NEWS
I'm surprised the Q men's hockey team hasn't had any of these yet.

Ken711


Trotsky

Quote from: dbilmes
Quote from: TrotskyInteresting.

QuoteMiami tight end Cam McCormick said Thursday that he is coming back for a ninth season of college football.
I'm surprised the Q men's hockey team hasn't had any of these yet.

Rand brings graduating seniors back as freshmen with new names.


billhoward

Lot of people taking six, eight years to graduate college back when there was a Vietnam war on, in the era of the student draft deferments that kept you from getting your ass shot off.