New Cornell football coach search

[mike1960]

Re-Ag School comment-Apparently Bob Blackman had the same idea.  I attended a meeting where then Ag School Dean, Keith Kennedy, gave a talk.  He said that Blackman approached him about using the Ag School to bring in football players.  Kennedy said he literally threw him out of his office.

Blackman: Great success at Dartmouth, not much at Cornell.

[ugarte]

Re-Ag School comment-Apparently Bob Blackman had the same idea.  I attended a meeting where then Ag School Dean, Keith Kennedy, gave a talk.  He said that Blackman approached him about using the Ag School to bring in football players.  Kennedy said he literally threw him out of his office.

Any coach who is recruiting in New York will use the Ag School.  And ILR and Human Ecology. With no athletic scholarships, lower in-state tuition is an advantage.

Sure, but that's not the implication of the request. The request was "can we use the ag school to bring in hayseed lunkheads to major in farming" when the school is a world-class agricultural research center developing important practical applications.

[Trotsky]

The request was "can we use the ag school to bring in hayseed lunkheads to major in farming" when the school is a world-class agricultural research center developing important practical applications.

It is possible to have a crust of top-notch students atop a cake of very stupid ones.  Large Midwestern University comes to mind.  K-State has some of the brightest students in the world.

7 of them.

The rest are the common clay of the new West.

I'm sure our Ag school has brilliant undergrads.

7 of them.

[Local Motion]

The request was "can we use the ag school to bring in hayseed lunkheads to major in farming" when the school is a world-class agricultural research center developing important practical applications.

As someone who grew up in agriculture and attended CALS, I take huge offense to your comment regarding "Hayseed lunkheads to major in farming".   That is such an ignorant statement.   Just to back it up our so called family farm today is a billion dollar operation that provides one of the largest fruit and vegetable distributions to nearly all the major grocery chains and food service operations in the United States.   In addition, we have been major contributors to CALS for many years.   OK while students at Cornell were doing internships on Wall Street, I was working in the fields and busting my A.............but it's still a real business venture.   One of my fellow CALS friends runs one of the largest Kosher dairy operations for New York City.   Where do you think our students get their Kosher milk, cheese, and yogurt?   Unbelievable.......

[ugarte]

The request was "can we use the ag school to bring in hayseed lunkheads to major in farming" when the school is a world-class agricultural research center developing important practical applications.

As someone who grew up in agriculture and attended CALS, I take huge offense to your comment regarding "Hayseed lunkheads to major in farming".   That is such an ignorant statement.   Just to back it up our so called family farm today is a billion dollar operation that provides one of the largest fruit and vegetable distributions to nearly all the major grocery chains and food service operations in the United States.   In addition, we have been major contributors to CALS for many years.   OK while students at Cornell were doing internships on Wall Street, I was working in the fields and busting my A.............but it's still a real business venture.   One of my fellow CALS friends runs one of the largest Kosher dairy operations for New York City.   Where do you think our students get their Kosher milk, cheese, and yogurt?   Unbelievable.......

you are not doing a great job making your case! The COACH wanted to bring hayseed lunkheads to take gut courses at a school that is at the vanguard of agricultural science, so the school told him to fuck off.

[Local Motion]

The comment is noted..............but the post is directed toward farmers and agriculture in general.  A very ignorant statement.

[ugarte]

The comment is noted..............but the post is directed toward farmers and agriculture in general.  A very ignorant statement.

it was directed at a stereotype not at actual farmers

[Trotsky]

Is anyone actually taking this seriously?  It's not a work?

[ugarte]

Is anyone actually taking this seriously?  It's not a work?

he knows that i'm actually martha pollack

[Ken711]

Four New York State FCS football head coach openings currently, with the Marist head coach retiring.  Cornell, Columbia, Stony Brook and now Marist.

[Ken711]

Four New York State FCS football head coach openings currently, with the Marist head coach retiring.  Cornell, Columbia, Stony Brook and now Marist.

Make that 3 now. Jake on his blog says Jon Poppe the current Union College HC will be named the new Columbia HC on Sunday.  Bringing Princeton WR coach Brian Flinn with him as his OC.

[Trotsky]

Is anyone actually taking this seriously?  It's not a work?

he knows that i'm actually martha pollack

Pics or GTFO.

[Trotsky]

Four New York State FCS football head coach openings currently, with the Marist head coach retiring.  Cornell, Columbia, Stony Brook and now Marist.

Make that 3 now. Jake on his blog says Jon Poppe the current Union College HC will be named the new Columbia HC on Sunday.  Bringing Princeton WR coach Brian Flinn with him as his OC.

Let's steal RPI's coach and become a national power.

[Ken711]

Four New York State FCS football head coach openings currently, with the Marist head coach retiring.  Cornell, Columbia, Stony Brook and now Marist.

Make that 3 now. Jake on his blog says Jon Poppe the current Union College HC will be named the new Columbia HC on Sunday.  Bringing Princeton WR coach Brian Flinn with him as his OC.

Let's steal RPI's coach and become a national power.

I get the joke.  But getting a D3 or D2 head coach from a more successful program is actually a great idea for Cornell.  They need a head coach that understands and has experienced what it takes to be a winner.

[Trotsky]

Unless we can find the football Schafer, I think about the only way we can get good coaching is to be a step on the ladder for an ascending coach.  Take D-2 phenoms, lose them in 3 years to an FBS school, and repeat.

I assume every year there are guys available from D-2 who have led their schools to a few seasons of > .750 ball.  That's where to look, and don't insist on loyalty.  Make sure some of their staff continues to transition the kids they recruit in the later seasons to the new guy's regime.

A quick review from the above link:
 

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 Pct Yr
.815  5 Ernie McCook, Shepherd*
.800  6 Rich Wright, NW Missouri State
.786  3 Brian Wright, Pittsburg State
.786  3 Jeff Girsch, Angelo State



* _{Shepherd has a weirdly great theatre program.}