New Cornell football coach search

Started by Ken711, November 19, 2023, 06:18:13 PM

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Trotsky

Quote from: ugarteI like the idea of a D3 guy that can build a program and train someone to take over. The school might not want a stepping stone coach but I wouldn't mind one that puts himself in a position to be poached.
Just rinse and repeat every 3 years.

mike1960

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Quote from: Local MotionI agree and probably wishful thinking.   Although I don't think we need a DIII coach that requires on the job training.   We need an experienced head coach who can recruit and develop a winning program.
I agree, i mean get a successful D3 head coach who brings in a good staff so when he leaves for greener pastures he has mentored someone up to step in.

Not just successful, but someone at DII or DIII who has won championships. They know the game. They know how to recruit. They know how to get the best out of their players. They make the right calls under intense pressure. That's the proof.

And they have to be able to lift 50 pounds.

billhoward

Quote from: ugarteI like the idea of a D3 guy that can build a program and train someone to take over. The school might not want a stepping stone coach but I wouldn't mind one that puts himself in a position to be poached.
We're describing Al Bagnoli of D3 Union after a half-dozen assistant coach years then in 10 as Union HC he made the playoffs 6X, 2X to the title game, then Penn moved him up. So we know 30 years later that that route worked for another Ivy.

Tim Murphy of Harvard did not by his record look like he'd be the winningest current Ivy coach: 9 years as assistant, 2 HC years at Maine with a 15-8 record, then a 17-37-1 5-year losing record at Cincinnati, but that last year was 8-3-1. Then Harvard at age 37.

rss77

Not in favor of Swanstrom for various reasons.  Anyhow he is rumored to be the coach in waiting at Penn when Priore steps down.

Ken711

Quote from: rss77Not in favor of Swanstrom for various reasons.  Anyhow he is rumored to be the coach in waiting at Penn when Priore steps down.

I'm curious what reasons?

Ken711

"Coaching experience at an Ivy League or other highly academically selective institution strongly preferred."

I wonder how much weight they give to this.  Certainly it helps to have some experience recruiting the type of players that Ivy League schools target.  I suppose they would look at other Ivy League school assistants like Mickey Fein the OC at Harvard or Yale's Chris Ostrowsky.

Ken711

Jake Novak has some possible big names listed on the potential candidates for the Columbia opening. Ricky Santos the current head coach at University of New Hampshire, and even Dan Mullen the former head coach at Mississippi State and Florida.

CAS


Ken711

Quote from: CASHow bout George Santos to the Lions?

:-D. Nice one.

Swampy

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Quote from: CASHow bout George Santos to the Lions?

:-D. Nice one.

He actually was the Offensive Coordinator for the New England Patriots from 2015 - 2017.

Chris H82

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Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: CASHow bout George Santos to the Lions?

:-D. Nice one.

He actually was the Offensive Coordinator for the New England Patriots from 2015 - 2017.

And he won't be interested in the opening at Columbia, as he's already coached them to an Ivy League title. ::innocent::
"What... is your favorite color?"  "Blue. No, yel--auuuuugh!"

Swampy

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Quote from: CASHow bout George Santos to the Lions?

:-D. Nice one.

He actually was the Offensive Coordinator for the New England Patriots from 2015 - 2017.

And he won't be interested in the opening at Columbia, as he's already coached them to an Ivy League title. ::innocent::

While he was on the faculty of Columbia's physics department.

Ken711

The same search firm Cornell is using, Parker Executive Search, has been hired to assist with the Duke head football opening since Duke's HC left for Texas A & M,

rss77

Re-Ag School comment-Apparently Bob Blackman had the same idea.  I attended a meeting where then Ag School Dean, Keith Kennedy, gave a talk.  He said that Blackman approached him about using the Ag School to bring in football players.  Kennedy said he literally threw him out of his office.

dag14

Quote from: rss77Re-Ag School comment-Apparently Bob Blackman had the same idea.  I attended a meeting where then Ag School Dean, Keith Kennedy, gave a talk.  He said that Blackman approached him about using the Ag School to bring in football players.  Kennedy said he literally threw him out of his office.

Any coach who is recruiting in New York will use the Ag School.  And ILR and Human Ecology. With no athletic scholarships, lower in-state tuition is an advantage.  Of course, every pre-med student in NY will be applying to Biology, Dyson admits less than 5% of applicants and other in-state majors and programs are also extremely competitive so the days of assuming all Aggies are dumb farmers and Hum Eccies are women looking for husbands are long gone.