Opponents and Others 2023-24

[scoop85]

Laughing at teams like BC/BU/NoDak/Quinnipiac losing just doesn't hit the same when they've won national championships recently. (BU fans might try to claim 15 years is a long time, but to a Cornell fan it's definitely not.) At the same time, each brutal loss by Cornell feels extra crushing because it's been so long since we've won at hockey or lacrosse ("our sports," as scoop85 puts it). I'd shrug off our loss to Denver this year in hockey or today's lax loss to ND much more easily if we had actually won it all recently.  But that hasn't happened since the 70s. I know others on this forum have been enduring heartbreaking losses for longer than I have, but it's starting to wear on me too.

This is what I was thinking after the Notre Dame loss yesterday.  How many crushing losses does Cornell get to suffer?  Otoh you have to be good to be in position to lose in crushing fashion.

Sure, I had this thought too. But just this season in lax we pulled out remarkable wins against Princeton and Syracuse, so it's not all a one way street.

[Swampy]

Laughing at teams like BC/BU/NoDak/Quinnipiac losing just doesn't hit the same when they've won national championships recently. (BU fans might try to claim 15 years is a long time, but to a Cornell fan it's definitely not.) At the same time, each brutal loss by Cornell feels extra crushing because it's been so long since we've won at hockey or lacrosse ("our sports," as scoop85 puts it). I'd shrug off our loss to Denver this year in hockey or today's lax loss to ND much more easily if we had actually won it all recently.  But that hasn't happened since the 70s. I know others on this forum have been enduring heartbreaking losses for longer than I have, but it's starting to wear on me too.

This is what I was thinking after the Notre Dame loss yesterday.  How many crushing losses does Cornell get to suffer?  Otoh you have to be good to be in position to lose in crushing fashion.

I prefer to have a different viewpoint.

Arguably, both the DU & ND losses were due to first-year mistakes by key players who are likely superstars. They won't make the same mistakes again. Hopefully they will both make amends, one as soon as May 27 this year in Philadelphia and the other, next year on April 12 in St. Lewis.

That these are realistic hopes for Cornell fans is something to be celebrated.

[BearLover]

Laughing at teams like BC/BU/NoDak/Quinnipiac losing just doesn't hit the same when they've won national championships recently. (BU fans might try to claim 15 years is a long time, but to a Cornell fan it's definitely not.) At the same time, each brutal loss by Cornell feels extra crushing because it's been so long since we've won at hockey or lacrosse ("our sports," as scoop85 puts it). I'd shrug off our loss to Denver this year in hockey or today's lax loss to ND much more easily if we had actually won it all recently.  But that hasn't happened since the 70s. I know others on this forum have been enduring heartbreaking losses for longer than I have, but it's starting to wear on me too.

This is what I was thinking after the Notre Dame loss yesterday.  How many crushing losses does Cornell get to suffer?  Otoh you have to be good to be in position to lose in crushing fashion.

I prefer to have a different viewpoint.

Arguably, both the DU & ND losses were due to first-year mistakes by key players who are likely superstars. They won't make the same mistakes again. Hopefully they will both make amends, one as soon as May 27 this year in Philadelphia and the other, next year on April 12 in St. Lewis.

That these are realistic hopes for Cornell fans is something to be celebrated.

That hasn't happened in 50 years, though. So it doesn't feel very realistic.

[jtwcornell91]

I didn't even last 3 minutes trying to be impartial.  I hate BC.

BC West vs. BC East as far as I'm concerned. Both teams' fans suck and are reviled by their respective conferences. And what school doesn't bring their own band to the FF?!

A pox on both their houses.

I missed the band trivia.  Wasn't that a D. U. band?

So that Scott doesn't have to answer twice, whose band was it?  I was actually pleasantly surprised that Denver has a band now (or so I thought).

[jtwcornell91]

what school doesn't bring their own band to the FF?!

Well, Bemidji State, but I was more willing to give them a pass.

[jtwcornell91]

Both teams' fans suck and are reviled by their respective conferences.

You know who else's fans are hated in their conference?

I've always liked Denver.  For me the ideal F4 would be us, Denver, BU, and Wisco.

Eh, I don't think we're hated overly much, for the same reasons I can't hate the Minnesota fans: there are just enough doomsayers and Eeyores that it keeps the fan base quasi-humble, and they've got a good band.

As far as your group goes, I'll take it. If I have to pick amongst the "blue bloods," I'd swap in UND for Denver.

In a perfect world of unreality, I'd swap in Michigan Tech.

(And I'd never swap in any of our ECAC brethren. A loss to one of them would be just crushing.)

I'd pick three from BU, Clarkson, Wisconsin, Michigan Tech, and Minnesota-Duluth.

[ugarte]

Laughing at teams like BC/BU/NoDak/Quinnipiac losing just doesn't hit the same when they've won national championships recently. (BU fans might try to claim 15 years is a long time, but to a Cornell fan it's definitely not.) At the same time, each brutal loss by Cornell feels extra crushing because it's been so long since we've won at hockey or lacrosse ("our sports," as scoop85 puts it). I'd shrug off our loss to Denver this year in hockey or today's lax loss to ND much more easily if we had actually won it all recently.  But that hasn't happened since the 70s. I know others on this forum have been enduring heartbreaking losses for longer than I have, but it's starting to wear on me too.

This is what I was thinking after the Notre Dame loss yesterday.  How many crushing losses does Cornell get to suffer?  Otoh you have to be good to be in position to lose in crushing fashion.

I prefer to have a different viewpoint.

Arguably, both the DU & ND losses were due to first-year mistakes by key players who are likely superstars. They won't make the same mistakes again. Hopefully they will both make amends, one as soon as May 27 this year in Philadelphia and the other, next year on April 12 in St. Lewis.

That these are realistic hopes for Cornell fans is something to be celebrated.

That hasn't happened in 50 years, though. So it doesn't feel very realistic.

ok eeyore it's getting a little tiresome even to me

[Al DeFlorio]

Laughing at teams like BC/BU/NoDak/Quinnipiac losing just doesn't hit the same when they've won national championships recently. (BU fans might try to claim 15 years is a long time, but to a Cornell fan it's definitely not.) At the same time, each brutal loss by Cornell feels extra crushing because it's been so long since we've won at hockey or lacrosse ("our sports," as scoop85 puts it). I'd shrug off our loss to Denver this year in hockey or today's lax loss to ND much more easily if we had actually won it all recently.  But that hasn't happened since the 70s. I know others on this forum have been enduring heartbreaking losses for longer than I have, but it's starting to wear on me too.

This is what I was thinking after the Notre Dame loss yesterday.  How many crushing losses does Cornell get to suffer?  Otoh you have to be good to be in position to lose in crushing fashion.

I prefer to have a different viewpoint.

Arguably, both the DU & ND losses were due to first-year mistakes by key players who are likely superstars. They won't make the same mistakes again. Hopefully they will both make amends, one as soon as May 27 this year in Philadelphia and the other, next year on April 12 in St. Lewis.

That these are realistic hopes for Cornell fans is something to be celebrated.

That hasn't happened in 50 years, though. So it doesn't feel very realistic.

ok eeyore it's getting a little tiresome even to me

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[Scersk '97]

I didn't even last 3 minutes trying to be impartial.  I hate BC.

BC West vs. BC East as far as I'm concerned. Both teams' fans suck and are reviled by their respective conferences. And what school doesn't bring their own band to the FF?!

A pox on both their houses.

I missed the band trivia.  Wasn't that a D. U. band?

Edina High School, from Edina, MN.

Beyond pathetic that DU hasn't had a pep band in 20 years. Guess their fans love the Jock Jams.

[marty]

I didn't even last 3 minutes trying to be impartial.  I hate BC.

BC West vs. BC East as far as I'm concerned. Both teams' fans suck and are reviled by their respective conferences. And what school doesn't bring their own band to the FF?!

A pox on both their houses.

I missed the band trivia.  Wasn't that a D. U. band?

Edina High School, from Edina, MN.

Beyond pathetic that DU hasn't had a pep band in 20 years. Guess their fans love the Jock Jams.

Well that answers why they had no band in Springfield but it doesn't answer why the QCheers were cuter (quter?) than the DUCheers.

Were the cheerleaders ringers, too?

[arugula]

Not that it matters, but this is the final poll.  Shouldn't we be 5?  No respect


Rnk   Team   (First Place Votes)   Record   Points   Last Poll
1   Denver   (50)   32-9-3   1000   3
2   Boston College      34-6-1   949   1
3   Boston University      28-10-2   898   2
4   Michigan      23-15-3   811   10
5   Michigan State      25-10-3   784   4
6   Quinnipiac      27-10-2   724   8
7   Minnesota      23-11-5   692   7
8   North Dakota      26-12-2   667   5
9   Cornell      22-7-6   582   12
10   Maine      23-12-2   565   6
11   Wisconsin      26-12-2   529   9
12   Omaha      23-13-4   441   11
13   Massachusetts      20-14-3   374   13
14   Western Michigan      21-16-1   362   14
15   Colorado College      21-13-3   300   15
16   Providence      18-13-4   200   16
16   RIT      27-11-2   200   17
18   St. Cloud      17-16-5   146   18
19   Michigan Tech      19-15-6   123   20
20   New Hampshire      20-15-1   100   19
Others receiving

[ugarte]

nothing dumber than a post tournament poll

[arugula]

nothing dumber than a post tournament poll

yes, but I'm grasping

[Will]

Not that it matters, but this is the final poll.  Shouldn't we be 5?  No respect


Rnk   Team   (First Place Votes)   Record   Points   Last Poll
1   Denver   (50)   32-9-3   1000   3
2   Boston College      34-6-1   949   1
3   Boston University      28-10-2   898   2
4   Michigan      23-15-3   811   10
5   Michigan State      25-10-3   784   4
6   Quinnipiac      27-10-2   724   8
7   Minnesota      23-11-5   692   7
8   North Dakota      26-12-2   667   5
9   Cornell      22-7-6   582   12
10   Maine      23-12-2   565   6
11   Wisconsin      26-12-2   529   9
12   Omaha      23-13-4   441   11
13   Massachusetts      20-14-3   374   13
14   Western Michigan      21-16-1   362   14
15   Colorado College      21-13-3   300   15
16   Providence      18-13-4   200   16
16   RIT      27-11-2   200   17
18   St. Cloud      17-16-5   146   18
19   Michigan Tech      19-15-6   123   20
20   New Hampshire      20-15-1   100   19
Others receiving

Cornell at 5 is admittedly debatable, but Cornell should not be behind any team that couldn't manage to win a single game in this tournament (i.e., North Dakota).

[arugula]

Basing five on the fact that we lost to the eventual champion. Therefore Q is 6, etc.