Opponents and Others 2023-24

[scoop85]

CHN has syer as a finalist for the Princeton head coaching job.

Leave a link next time?

For those of you looking, its at https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2024/04/18_Princeton-Zeroing-In-on-New.php

Also, it doesn't exactly say he's a finalist. It says
" Among those who have interviewed, or were expected to, are Cornell assistant Ben Syer, Michigan assistant Rob Rassey, and Arizona State assistant Dana Borges"

Re: bearlovers question about why Princeton but not Cornell: bearlover, thatd be a good question  if syer was offered the job or the first.or second choice.   But all this says is that he interviewed, and he's interviewed for plenty of gigs over the years iirc. (Tsk tsk chimpfood for the misleading post).


Maybe the more pertinent question is why is syer still at Cornell, despite interviewing for other gigs frequently over the years?   (Someone correct.me.if it hasn't been that often)

Is it because he doesn't want to leave? Or is it because no one will offer.him a HC job?   Time will tell

First of all, a more polite and way to start your post would be to say: "here's the link, if anybody needs," or something to that effect.

Second, I'm pretty certain this story has been edited. I don't have the earlier version in front of me (because it's been edited), but I am 90% sure the earlier version DID say something along the lines of "finalist," i.e. language that was the same or similar to chimpfood's.

Yeah, I saw the updated article that said he and a Michigan assistant are supposedly the two finalists (sorry, don't have the link)

[BearLover]

CHN has syer as a finalist for the Princeton head coaching job.

Leave a link next time?

For those of you looking, its at https://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/2024/04/18_Princeton-Zeroing-In-on-New.php

Also, it doesn't exactly say he's a finalist. It says
" Among those who have interviewed, or were expected to, are Cornell assistant Ben Syer, Michigan assistant Rob Rassey, and Arizona State assistant Dana Borges"

Re: bearlovers question about why Princeton but not Cornell: bearlover, thatd be a good question  if syer was offered the job or the first.or second choice.   But all this says is that he interviewed, and he's interviewed for plenty of gigs over the years iirc. (Tsk tsk chimpfood for the misleading post).


Maybe the more pertinent question is why is syer still at Cornell, despite interviewing for other gigs frequently over the years?   (Someone correct.me.if it hasn't been that often)

Is it because he doesn't want to leave? Or is it because no one will offer.him a HC job?   Time will tell

First of all, a more polite and way to start your post would be to say: "here's the link, if anybody needs," or something to that effect.

Second, I'm pretty certain this story has been edited. I don't have the earlier version in front of me (because it's been edited), but I am 90% sure the earlier version DID say something along the lines of "finalist," i.e. language that was the same or similar to chimpfood's.

Touchy touchy. Only bearlover would still feel insulted the one time I don't shit on him.

I was critiquing chimpfoods laziness, not yours bearlover, which is why I mentioned the link immediately after the chimpfood quote.

Bearlover, your question for adamw was said "I'd be curious to hear adamw's response to the CHN report that Syer is a finalist for the Princeton head coaching job".  It was fair to assume you were commenting on chimps post since you used the same language.   No reason to believe you had read the original article or that it (might) have been revised, since there's no mention of update or revision in the article header.

Regardless, you're asking a good question if he actually is a true finalist for HC elsewhere.

I knew you were responding to chimp food rather than me. I just thought your phrasing was impolite. I decided to point it out because a lot of your posts have an adversarial tone.

[Dafatone]

I should probably just shut up - but I'm not good at that.

I think Ben Syer and Topher are great guys. Neither will be the next coach. Casey Jones is one of my favorite people in hockey, and I think he's a great coach. However, he's only 4 years younger than Coach Schafer - and so it won't be him either.

I'd be curious to hear adamw's response to the CHN report that Syer is a finalist for the Princeton head coaching job. A few months ago adamw was suggesting Syer would not be the next head coach of Cornell. Why would Princeton be an option, but not Cornell?

To shove words into Adam's mouth, I took his comments to mean that there's a behind-the-scenes heir apparent to Schafer's job. But I'm reading a lot into it.

[BearLover]

I should probably just shut up - but I'm not good at that.

I think Ben Syer and Topher are great guys. Neither will be the next coach. Casey Jones is one of my favorite people in hockey, and I think he's a great coach. However, he's only 4 years younger than Coach Schafer - and so it won't be him either.

I'd be curious to hear adamw's response to the CHN report that Syer is a finalist for the Princeton head coaching job. A few months ago adamw was suggesting Syer would not be the next head coach of Cornell. Why would Princeton be an option, but not Cornell?

To shove words into Adam's mouth, I took his comments to mean that there's a behind-the-scenes heir apparent to Schafer's job. But I'm reading a lot into it.

Well, he ruled Casey, Syer, and Topher, so I doubt it.

[pfibiger]

I should probably just shut up - but I'm not good at that.

I think Ben Syer and Topher are great guys. Neither will be the next coach. Casey Jones is one of my favorite people in hockey, and I think he's a great coach. However, he's only 4 years younger than Coach Schafer - and so it won't be him either.

I'd be curious to hear adamw's response to the CHN report that Syer is a finalist for the Princeton head coaching job. A few months ago adamw was suggesting Syer would not be the next head coach of Cornell. Why would Princeton be an option, but not Cornell?

To shove words into Adam's mouth, I took his comments to mean that there's a behind-the-scenes heir apparent to Schafer's job. But I'm reading a lot into it.

That's funny, I read exactly the opposite -- when Schafer does eventually retire, Cornell will be a plum job attracting nationwide candidates, and it won't just be "promote the assistant."

[Dafatone]

I should probably just shut up - but I'm not good at that.

I think Ben Syer and Topher are great guys. Neither will be the next coach. Casey Jones is one of my favorite people in hockey, and I think he's a great coach. However, he's only 4 years younger than Coach Schafer - and so it won't be him either.

I'd be curious to hear adamw's response to the CHN report that Syer is a finalist for the Princeton head coaching job. A few months ago adamw was suggesting Syer would not be the next head coach of Cornell. Why would Princeton be an option, but not Cornell?

To shove words into Adam's mouth, I took his comments to mean that there's a behind-the-scenes heir apparent to Schafer's job. But I'm reading a lot into it.

That's funny, I read exactly the opposite -- when Schafer does eventually retire, Cornell will be a plum job attracting nationwide candidates, and it won't just be "promote the assistant."

That makes sense, too.

[BearLover]

I should probably just shut up - but I'm not good at that.

I think Ben Syer and Topher are great guys. Neither will be the next coach. Casey Jones is one of my favorite people in hockey, and I think he's a great coach. However, he's only 4 years younger than Coach Schafer - and so it won't be him either.

I'd be curious to hear adamw's response to the CHN report that Syer is a finalist for the Princeton head coaching job. A few months ago adamw was suggesting Syer would not be the next head coach of Cornell. Why would Princeton be an option, but not Cornell?

To shove words into Adam's mouth, I took his comments to mean that there's a behind-the-scenes heir apparent to Schafer's job. But I'm reading a lot into it.

That's funny, I read exactly the opposite -- when Schafer does eventually retire, Cornell will be a plum job attracting nationwide candidates, and it won't just be "promote the assistant."

That makes sense, too.

But I don't think either of those interpretations makes too much sense.

There isn't anyone who would be a behind-the-scenes heir apparent that isn't Casey/Syer/Topher, unless it's Doug Derraugh, who would be dismissed as a candidate on the same grounds adamw applied to Casey (being only slightly younger than Schafer).

Moreover, while I think a nationwide coaching search is possible, the very strong trend among Cornell's successful athletics programs has been to promote from within (wrestling, lacrosse, basketball). adamw's statement that these people will "not be the next coach" was written in no uncertain terms. The only justification for adamw's level of certainty that would make sense in this context is that adamw has information that Syer would not want a head coaching job, or he simply isn't cut out to be a head coach. In light of the fact Syer is interviewing for the Princeton position, it appears adamw was wrong. But I'll let him explain his thinking on here.

[Al DeFlorio]

I should probably just shut up - but I'm not good at that.

I think Ben Syer and Topher are great guys. Neither will be the next coach. Casey Jones is one of my favorite people in hockey, and I think he's a great coach. However, he's only 4 years younger than Coach Schafer - and so it won't be him either.

I'd be curious to hear adamw's response to the CHN report that Syer is a finalist for the Princeton head coaching job. A few months ago adamw was suggesting Syer would not be the next head coach of Cornell. Why would Princeton be an option, but not Cornell?

To shove words into Adam's mouth, I took his comments to mean that there's a behind-the-scenes heir apparent to Schafer's job. But I'm reading a lot into it.

That's funny, I read exactly the opposite -- when Schafer does eventually retire, Cornell will be a plum job attracting nationwide candidates, and it won't just be "promote the assistant."

That makes sense, too.

But I don't think either of those interpretations makes too much sense.

There isn't anyone who would be a behind-the-scenes heir apparent that isn't Casey/Syer/Topher, unless it's Doug Derraugh, who would be dismissed as a candidate on the same grounds adamw applied to Casey (being only slightly younger than Schafer).

Moreover, while I think a nationwide coaching search is possible, the very strong trend among Cornell's successful athletics programs has been to promote from within (wrestling, lacrosse, basketball). adamw's statement that these people will "not be the next coach" was written in no uncertain terms. The only justification for adamw's level of certainty that would make sense in this context is that adamw has information that Syer would not want a head coaching job, or he simply isn't cut out to be a head coach. In light of the fact Syer is interviewing for the Princeton position, it appears adamw was wrong. But I'll let him explain his thinking on here.

Who was promoted from within and successful in basketball?

[Robb]

I should probably just shut up - but I'm not good at that.

I think Ben Syer and Topher are great guys. Neither will be the next coach. Casey Jones is one of my favorite people in hockey, and I think he's a great coach. However, he's only 4 years younger than Coach Schafer - and so it won't be him either.

I'd be curious to hear adamw's response to the CHN report that Syer is a finalist for the Princeton head coaching job. A few months ago adamw was suggesting Syer would not be the next head coach of Cornell. Why would Princeton be an option, but not Cornell?

To shove words into Adam's mouth, I took his comments to mean that there's a behind-the-scenes heir apparent to Schafer's job. But I'm reading a lot into it.

That's funny, I read exactly the opposite -- when Schafer does eventually retire, Cornell will be a plum job attracting nationwide candidates, and it won't just be "promote the assistant."

That makes sense, too.

But I don't think either of those interpretations makes too much sense.

There isn't anyone who would be a behind-the-scenes heir apparent that isn't Casey/Syer/Topher, unless it's Doug Derraugh, who would be dismissed as a candidate on the same grounds adamw applied to Casey (being only slightly younger than Schafer).

Moreover, while I think a nationwide coaching search is possible, the very strong trend among Cornell's successful athletics programs has been to promote from within (wrestling, lacrosse, basketball). adamw's statement that these people will "not be the next coach" was written in no uncertain terms. The only justification for adamw's level of certainty that would make sense in this context is that adamw has information that Syer would not want a head coaching job, or he simply isn't cut out to be a head coach. In light of the fact Syer is interviewing for the Princeton position, it appears adamw was wrong. But I'll let him explain his thinking on here.

Way too much speculation going on.  Maybe Adam assumed that someone would hire Syer away from Cornell as a HC and then Cornell would not be able to entice him back?  Who knows?  There are a million scenarios where Syer does not become Cornell HC, and only a few where he does, so maybe Adam is just playing the odds.

[adamw]

I should probably just shut up - but I'm not good at that.

I think Ben Syer and Topher are great guys. Neither will be the next coach. Casey Jones is one of my favorite people in hockey, and I think he's a great coach. However, he's only 4 years younger than Coach Schafer - and so it won't be him either.

I'd be curious to hear adamw's response to the CHN report that Syer is a finalist for the Princeton head coaching job. A few months ago adamw was suggesting Syer would not be the next head coach of Cornell. Why would Princeton be an option, but not Cornell?

"CHN's report" - you mean the one I wrote?

[adamw]

I should probably just shut up - but I'm not good at that.

I think Ben Syer and Topher are great guys. Neither will be the next coach. Casey Jones is one of my favorite people in hockey, and I think he's a great coach. However, he's only 4 years younger than Coach Schafer - and so it won't be him either.

I'd be curious to hear adamw's response to the CHN report that Syer is a finalist for the Princeton head coaching job. A few months ago adamw was suggesting Syer would not be the next head coach of Cornell. Why would Princeton be an option, but not Cornell?

To shove words into Adam's mouth, I took his comments to mean that there's a behind-the-scenes heir apparent to Schafer's job. But I'm reading a lot into it.

That's funny, I read exactly the opposite -- when Schafer does eventually retire, Cornell will be a plum job attracting nationwide candidates, and it won't just be "promote the assistant."

That makes sense, too.

But I don't think either of those interpretations makes too much sense.

There isn't anyone who would be a behind-the-scenes heir apparent that isn't Casey/Syer/Topher, unless it's Doug Derraugh, who would be dismissed as a candidate on the same grounds adamw applied to Casey (being only slightly younger than Schafer).

Moreover, while I think a nationwide coaching search is possible, the very strong trend among Cornell's successful athletics programs has been to promote from within (wrestling, lacrosse, basketball). adamw's statement that these people will "not be the next coach" was written in no uncertain terms. The only justification for adamw's level of certainty that would make sense in this context is that adamw has information that Syer would not want a head coaching job, or he simply isn't cut out to be a head coach. In light of the fact Syer is interviewing for the Princeton position, it appears adamw was wrong. But I'll let him explain his thinking on here.

There are an awful lot of ridiculous assumptions in there -- and then calling me "wrong" to boot. LOL. How is what Princeton thinks relevant to what Cornell thinks? Has Princeton been a national juggernaut at some point that I don't remember? What's each school's respective situation? What's each school's respective AD background/experience? Etc...

[Dafatone]

I should probably just shut up - but I'm not good at that.

I think Ben Syer and Topher are great guys. Neither will be the next coach. Casey Jones is one of my favorite people in hockey, and I think he's a great coach. However, he's only 4 years younger than Coach Schafer - and so it won't be him either.

I'd be curious to hear adamw's response to the CHN report that Syer is a finalist for the Princeton head coaching job. A few months ago adamw was suggesting Syer would not be the next head coach of Cornell. Why would Princeton be an option, but not Cornell?

To shove words into Adam's mouth, I took his comments to mean that there's a behind-the-scenes heir apparent to Schafer's job. But I'm reading a lot into it.

That's funny, I read exactly the opposite -- when Schafer does eventually retire, Cornell will be a plum job attracting nationwide candidates, and it won't just be "promote the assistant."

That makes sense, too.

But I don't think either of those interpretations makes too much sense.

There isn't anyone who would be a behind-the-scenes heir apparent that isn't Casey/Syer/Topher, unless it's Doug Derraugh, who would be dismissed as a candidate on the same grounds adamw applied to Casey (being only slightly younger than Schafer).

Moreover, while I think a nationwide coaching search is possible, the very strong trend among Cornell's successful athletics programs has been to promote from within (wrestling, lacrosse, basketball). adamw's statement that these people will "not be the next coach" was written in no uncertain terms. The only justification for adamw's level of certainty that would make sense in this context is that adamw has information that Syer would not want a head coaching job, or he simply isn't cut out to be a head coach. In light of the fact Syer is interviewing for the Princeton position, it appears adamw was wrong. But I'll let him explain his thinking on here.

There are an awful lot of ridiculous assumptions in there -- and then calling me "wrong" to boot. LOL. How is what Princeton thinks relevant to what Cornell thinks? Has Princeton been a national juggernaut at some point that I don't remember? What's each school's respective situation? What's each school's respective AD background/experience? Etc...

To be fair, we're only a few years from 2028, when Princeton will again rise from its slumber before going back to bed for ten more seasons.

[RichH]

To be fair, we're only a few years from 2028, when Princeton will again rise from its slumber before going back to bed for ten more seasons.

+1

[ugarte]

To be fair, we're only a few years from 2028, when Princeton will again rise from its slumber before going back to bed for ten more seasons.

ah yes, the famous "brood x"

Who was promoted from within and successful in basketball?

we all have high hopes for jaques.

[ugarte]

oops