Cornell football 2023

[Local Motion]

The Ivy League is a sports conference and not an academic affiliation.   If Cornell wants to remain an Ivy League affiliate at the very least our stadium and other athletic facilities should be at Ivy League standards.   I know for example, Tim Murphy the head coach at Harvard hates traveling over six hours to Ithaca via bus.   I can assure you there are a number of Ivy League coaches who would be very pleased to not travel to Ithaca anymore.   The Ivy League is a New England and Mid-Atlantic focused conference.   Cornell is the only school that doesn't even have an expressway that takes you directly to Ithaca.  That's another reason why I think the Cornell vs. Columbia game should be played every year in NYC.   The good news is NYC is in Cornell's DNA.   When I travel to Manhattan on business, I enjoy going running in Central Park as I always see other people wearing Cornell gear.  

Again Schoellkopf Field is the most heavily used athletic facility at Cornell.   It's literally the only stadium we have on campus and at the very least it should be a classic Ivy League venue.

[Swampy]

The Ivy League is a sports conference and not an academic affiliation.   If Cornell wants to remain an Ivy League affiliate at the very least our stadium and other athletic facilities should be at Ivy League standards.   I know for example, Tim Murphy the head coach at Harvard hates traveling over six hours to Ithaca via bus.   I can assure you there are a number of Ivy League coaches who would be very pleased to not travel to Ithaca anymore.   The Ivy League is a New England and Mid-Atlantic focused conference.   Cornell is the only school that doesn't even have an expressway that takes you directly to Ithaca.  That's another reason why I think the Cornell vs. Columbia game should be played every year in NYC.   The good news is NYC is in Cornell's DNA.   When I travel to Manhattan on business, I enjoy going running in Central Park as I always see other people wearing Cornell gear.  

Again Schoellkopf Field is the most heavily used athletic facility at Cornell.   It's literally the only stadium we have on campus and at the very least it should be a classic Ivy League venue.

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[George64]

I think the Crescent is gorgeous, personally.

While I don't know if I'd call the historic Crescent "gorgeous," I do find it unique, attractive and well-suited for our campus, with more than adequate capacity for most events.  It could, however, use some additional amenities and undoubtedly some structural upgrades.

The best way to deal with occasional capacity shortcomings is to build a multipurpose building where the west stands once stood. The space between the parking garage and the field is over 50 feet wide.  Locker rooms, weight rooms and some other functions that don't need windows, could be located on the building's west side, while offices, meeting rooms, etc. could face the field.  The top floor could have suites where administrators could entertain potential donors, as well as additional enclosed, climate-controlled seating.  Potential naming rights abound.  The roof level could have open stands, with, perhaps, seats with backs for aged alumni (still more naming opportunities).

[Local Motion]

All that stuff sounds good but probably in the tens of millions of dollars.   To save money Cornell could add those modular multi-purpose locker room and then add 1500 seat elevated grandstands.   Adorn the grandstands with eight poles for Ivy League flags.   Albany built a beautiful new stadium about ten years ago.   They ran out of money for the visitor stands, so they added a smaller grandstand with the CAA league flags flying over head.   The stadium looks really nice.   I think Albany's goal is to move up to FBS football in the Mid-American conference similar to their western cousin University of Buffalo.  If they renovate the stadium again they can move those stands for soccer or another sport.  

Like I said before the parking garage on the westside of Schoellkopf on television and the news photo gallery looks like something out of the "Longest Yard".  It has to be the ugliest back drop of any program in all of college football.    I have no doubt it's a recruiting liability.

[mike1960]

All that stuff sounds good but probably in the tens of millions of dollars.   To save money Cornell could add those modular multi-purpose locker room and then add 1500 seat elevated grandstands.   Adorn the grandstands with eight poles for Ivy League flags.   Albany built a beautiful new stadium about ten years ago.   They ran out of money for the visitor stands, so they added a smaller grandstand with the CAA league flags flying over head.   The stadium looks really nice.   I think Albany's goal is to move up to FBS football in the Mid-American conference similar to their western cousin University of Buffalo.  If they renovate the stadium again they can move those stands for soccer or another sport.  

Like I said before the parking garage on the westside of Schoellkopf on television and the news photo gallery looks like something out of the "Longest Yard".  It has to be the ugliest back drop of any program in all of college football.    I have no doubt it's a recruiting liability.

This sounds really good. I can also imagine students from the College of AAP coming up with amazing plans to refurbish and modernize the entire area.

[Ken711]

I think the Crescent is gorgeous, personally.

While I don't know if I'd call the historic Crescent "gorgeous," I do find it unique, attractive and well-suited for our campus, with more than adequate capacity for most events.  It could, however, use some additional amenities and undoubtedly some structural upgrades.

The best way to deal with occasional capacity shortcomings is to build a multipurpose building where the west stands once stood. The space between the parking garage and the field is over 50 feet wide.  Locker rooms, weight rooms and some other functions that don't need windows, could be located on the building's west side, while offices, meeting rooms, etc. could face the field.  The top floor could have suites where administrators could entertain potential donors, as well as additional enclosed, climate-controlled seating.  Potential naming rights abound.  The roof level could have open stands, with, perhaps, seats with backs for aged alumni (still more naming opportunities).

You may have missed this post of mine above, "Andy Noel said at one time there was a long range plan to build more team space (as in locker rooms/weight training) where the West stands stood, with visitor seating above. That was put on the back burner to focus on the Indoor Practice Facility. With that project finally moving towards construction they may look to the West stand project again at some point."

[BearLover]

Sorry if this was already answered, but why do we need more seating in a stadium that is consistently 95% empty?

[tycho]

Quite an exciting finish to the Dartmouth-Princeton game on ESPNU this evening. Dart. 23, Prin. 21. 47-yarder by a freshman kicker to win. Two teams (Dartmouth, Princeton) at 3-2 in the Ivies, four(!) at 2-2 (Penn, Cornell, Brown, Yale). Harvard at 3-1 and struggling Columbia at 0-4. Big game for Cornell tomorrow. Believe it or not, they're still in it if they can find a way against Penn (though I certainly have reservation), with a tough road matchup against Dartmouth and a very winnable one at home against Columbia remaining. I've a hard time imagining a Harvard defeat at the hands of Columbia, however, so they're likely to hold onto a solo first through the weekend.

[RichH]

2. It's ridiculous he traveled all the way from Chicago and we have no visitor section.   Some of these big high school programs consistently draw 5-15K in some nice stadiums. Schoellkopf's current condition is not acceptable.

Here's an idea: Sit Together. Thus, visitor section.

The fact that West Stands haven't been rebuilt is pretty embarrassing. I felt they were pretty important for the non-major sports.

Sorry, but why do we need a visitor's section when the home section is never more than 10% full outside of homecoming?

No need to apologize. I feel bad that you weren't able to read all the way to the end of my post. The stadium is used for things other than football. Many of those have attendances of less than 1000. Having a smaller set of stands allows the facility to be used without opening the large stands. Without the track, you could also make them much closer to the field surface than the past incarceration. Lower burden on facilities and staffing.

[ugarte]

The fact that West Stands haven't been rebuilt is pretty embarrassing. I felt they were pretty important for the non-major sports.

Sorry, but why do we need a visitor's section when the home section is never more than 10% full outside of homecoming?

No need to apologize. I feel bad that you weren't able to read all the way to the end of my post. The stadium is used for things other than football. Many of those have attendances of less than 1000. Having a smaller set of stands allows the facility to be used without opening the large stands. Without the track, you could also make them much closer to the field surface than the past incarceration. Lower burden on facilities and staffing.[/quote] that shows why we need an upgrade right there

[RichH]

The fact that West Stands haven't been rebuilt is pretty embarrassing. I felt they were pretty important for the non-major sports.

Sorry, but why do we need a visitor's section when the home section is never more than 10% full outside of homecoming?

No need to apologize. I feel bad that you weren't able to read all the way to the end of my post. The stadium is used for things other than football. Many of those have attendances of less than 1000. Having a smaller set of stands allows the facility to be used without opening the large stands. Without the track, you could also make them much closer to the field surface than the past incarceration. Lower burden on facilities and staffing.

that shows why we need an upgrade right there[/quote]

Autocorrect is sometimes strangely appropriate.

[BearLover]

2. It's ridiculous he traveled all the way from Chicago and we have no visitor section.   Some of these big high school programs consistently draw 5-15K in some nice stadiums. Schoellkopf's current condition is not acceptable.

Here's an idea: Sit Together. Thus, visitor section.

The fact that West Stands haven't been rebuilt is pretty embarrassing. I felt they were pretty important for the non-major sports.

Sorry, but why do we need a visitor's section when the home section is never more than 10% full outside of homecoming?

No need to apologize. I feel bad that you weren't able to read all the way to the end of my post.

Ok

[tycho]

Cornell secondary getting burned by the big play again. Penn up 10-0 through one. Eh.

[Al DeFlorio]

Play-calling still abysmal.  Making it impossible to sustain a drive.

[Ken711]

1-3 Ivy finish coming up.  That should be bye bye to Archer.