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Started by scoop85, June 21, 2022, 04:52:35 PM

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Beeeej

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BeeeejRemember our seemingly permanent Nanaimo pipeline? What do we have on the roster now, one former Clipper?
The pipeline has to be open on both ends; maybe personnel changed out in Nanaimo.

Right, and maybe personnel changed out in the Development program. Then factor in other D1 teams that might notice a bunch of strong recruits coming from somewhere in particular and try to get in on it. Anyway, the point is, things like this change and it's not more likely to be because of anything like neglect than because of inherent cycles.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

Trotsky

And the numbers are so small one or two close decisions that go the other way seem seismic.

I did not expect this thread to become interesting.

blackwidow

Quote from: Beeeej
Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BeeeejRemember our seemingly permanent Nanaimo pipeline? What do we have on the roster now, one former Clipper?
The pipeline has to be open on both ends; maybe personnel changed out in Nanaimo.

Right, and maybe personnel changed out in the Development program. Then factor in other D1 teams that might notice a bunch of strong recruits coming from somewhere in particular and try to get in on it. Anyway, the point is, things like this change and it's not more likely to be because of anything like neglect than because of inherent cycles.

Cornell is probably struggling to recruit top guys in general for various reasons. I came across this tweet if anyone finds interesting.

https://twitter.com/evanpace17/status/1543292880500002816?t=bQNF5IJ5nppFCFGm-F4J_g&s=19

Trotsky

What was the source of the rankings?

ursusminor

Quote from: TrotskyWhat was the source of the rankings?

Evan Pace is a rising senior at UConn which probably means it is far from accurate and may also explain the poor ranking of QU at #42, not that I would mind that.

blackwidow

Quote from: ursusminor
Quote from: TrotskyWhat was the source of the rankings?

Evan Pace is a rising senior at UConn which probably means it is far from accurate and may also explain the poor ranking of QU at #42, not that I would mind that.

https://twitter.com/evanpace17/status/1543372114560184321?t=7Z2lgG2avgdkvkPnZPsp0A&s=19

I asked to share the exact weighting methodology but he wasnt responsive.

BearLover

I would not put much/any stock in this random guy's rankings. With that said, Cornell certainly has not been knocking it out of the park in recruiting. They have been recruiting like an above average team, not a team that made four straight NCAA tournaments and two 1-seeds between 2017 and 2020.

CAS

Cornell is likely to have 2 (& maybe 3) recruits selected in this weekend's NHL draft.  This year's class includes the third leading scorer in the BCHL (pts/game), the MVP of the OJHL, & a transfer who has had 2 productive college seasons.  I'm excited about the players in the pipeline.

scoop85

Quote from: CASCornell is likely to have 2 (& maybe 3) recruits selected in this weekend's NHL draft.  This year's class includes the third leading scorer in the BCHL (pts/game), the MVP of the OJHL, & a transfer who has had 2 productive college seasons.  I'm excited about the players in the pipeline.

I think we have a nice group coming in this year, and our overall roster will be strong. We should see balanced scoring up and down the lineup, and there's no reason we shouldn't compete for the top of the ECAC's and be competitive nationally.

BearLover

We should have a solid roster and be a top-four ECAC team. I just would have liked to see more of an uptick in recruiting from our recent success. Harvard and Quinnipiac are going to have rosters that are quite a bit better on paper. Harvard, because their recruiting is in a different stratosphere than the rest of the ECAC. Quinnipiac, because they have a ton of returning fifth-year seniors and are taking full advantage of the transfer portal and have one of the best goalies in the country. I would have hoped that being one of the top programs in the country in 2017-20 we would have attracted higher-end recruits. Maybe it has, but we are at least a few years away from them getting here.

blackwidow

Quote from: BearLoverWe should have a solid roster and be a top-four ECAC team. I just would have liked to see more of an uptick in recruiting from our recent success. Harvard and Quinnipiac are going to have rosters that are quite a bit better on paper. Harvard, because their recruiting is in a different stratosphere than the rest of the ECAC. Quinnipiac, because they have a ton of returning fifth-year seniors and are taking full advantage of the transfer portal and have one of the best goalies in the country. I would have hoped that being one of the top programs in the country in 2017-20 we would have attracted higher-end recruits. Maybe it has, but we are at least a few years away from them getting here.

I know im being unrealistic but i wish we could recruit players of the same calibre as those of Harvard.

upprdeck

we can recruit them. Can  we get them into the school though.

Beeeej

Quote from: BearLoverWe should have a solid roster and be a top-four ECAC team. I just would have liked to see more of an uptick in recruiting from our recent success. Harvard and Quinnipiac are going to have rosters that are quite a bit better on paper. Harvard, because their recruiting is in a different stratosphere than the rest of the ECAC. Quinnipiac, because they have a ton of returning fifth-year seniors and are taking full advantage of the transfer portal and have one of the best goalies in the country. I would have hoped that being one of the top programs in the country in 2017-20 we would have attracted higher-end recruits. Maybe it has, but we are at least a few years away from them getting here.

Since it took Teddy 13 years of "different stratosphere" recruiting and draft-heavy rosters to get past an NCAA first round game, and our record against them in the past five years is something like 5-1-2, I'm not really inclined to sweat his new roster any more than his old ones. Would I like Cornell to have as many recent ECAC titles as Harvard has? Oh, totally.
Beeeej, Esq.

"Cornell isn't an organization.  It's a loose affiliation of independent fiefdoms united by a common hockey team."
   - Steve Worona

ugarte

Quote from: upprdeckwe can recruit them. Can  we get them into the school though.
it is not easier for harvard to slip players past admissions than it is for cornell and even if you can show me an exception it's silly to pretend otherwise. harvard's academic index has a higher baseline than cornell's does.

upprdeck

yeah because getting into a school is the same for everyone that applies.