Cornell football 2022

Started by billhoward, June 14, 2022, 11:56:02 AM

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billhoward

Columbia clobbers Cornell 45-22. It was as good as 14-7 at the half, as bad as 35-7 a minute into the fourth quarter. Cornell ends 5-5 (best for the David Archer era), only 2-5 in the Ivies, good for sixth place. Better than expected. But still not good.

Yale won its last four games including The Game (19-14) and what could have been a four-way tie of Yale, Princeton, Penn, Harvard at 5-2 ends with Yale No. 1 at 6-1, then Penn (20-19 over Princeton aftering being down 19-7 entering Q4) and Penn at 5-2.

billhoward

Cornell was predicted to finish 8th and finished in a tie for sixth. That's better than expected for 2022 but not much of a record for David Archer's 10 years at the helm: 26-64.

Archer will get another year, I believe:
* It's his best year
* It's an improvement on the previous season's 2-8
* There's nobody to take (or demand) a resignation, or start a search. Outgoing athletic director Andy Noel is in the process of winding down his Cornell tenure and he's not going to saddle the successor with a coach not of her choosing.
* Archer got Cornell to .500 and after a decade, what's one more year (with Jameson Wang as QB) to improve.

Yale has to be happy about winning the Ivies, no shared titled. Princeton has to be upset about being unbeaten until game 9, then losing narrowly to Yale 24-20 and Penn 20-19. Columbia has to be minorly happy about being 3-4 and finishing 6-4.

FYI the pre-season media poll had it:
1. Harvard (tie)
1. Dartmouth (tie)
3. Princeton
4. Yale
5. Columbia
6. Penn
7. Brown
8. Cornell

upprdeck

to fire the coach you need the school to care about the record.

George64

Quote from: Ken711Fire Archer!  10 years is a largest sample size to see a change is required, his 17-45 Ivy League conference record says it all.

You improved his Ivy record — he's in fact 17-46.

mountainred

Quote from: billhowardCornell was predicted to finish 8th and finished in a tie for sixth. That's better than expected for 2022 but not much of a record for David Archer's 10 years at the helm: 26-64.

Archer will get another year, I believe:
* It's his best year
* It's an improvement on the previous season's 2-8
* There's nobody to take (or demand) a resignation, or start a search. Outgoing athletic director Andy Noel is in the process of winding down his Cornell tenure and he's not going to saddle the successor with a coach not of her choosing.
* Archer got Cornell to .500 and after a decade, what's one more year (with Jameson Wang as QB) to improve.

Yale has to be happy about winning the Ivies, no shared titled. Princeton has to be upset about being unbeaten until game 9, then losing narrowly to Yale 24-20 and Penn 20-19. Columbia has to be minorly happy about being 3-4 and finishing 6-4.


IMHO Bullet point 3 is the key one.  The new AD will get to pick the new coach.  

And Dartmouth fans have to be ticked at this season.

CAS

Cornell's three non-league wins were over teams that were a combined 6-27 this season.

Ken711

Quote from: CASCornell's three non-league wins were over teams that were a combined 6-27 this season.

And the two Ivy League wins were over teams with a 3-11 Ivy League record. :-D

George64

Quote from: billhowardArcher will get another year, I believe:

* There's nobody to take (or demand) a resignation, or start a search. Outgoing athletic director Andy Noel is in the process of winding down his Cornell tenure and he's not going to saddle the successor with a coach not of her choosing.
 
According to the press release, "Noel will serve in the position through the end of the 2021-22 academic year and into the 2022-23 academic year until a successor is named."  A national search will commence in late summer."  Summer is over, so the search committee should be well on its way to finding Noel's successor. I'm certain that the future direction of football must a top priority for the committee and that leading candidates will have given it some thought. I'd hope he/she will be in place in early Spring . . .

Ken711

Quote from: George64
Quote from: billhowardArcher will get another year, I believe:

* There's nobody to take (or demand) a resignation, or start a search. Outgoing athletic director Andy Noel is in the process of winding down his Cornell tenure and he's not going to saddle the successor with a coach not of her choosing.
 
According to the press release, "Noel will serve in the position through the end of the 2021-22 academic year and into the 2022-23 academic year until a successor is named."  A national search will commence in late summer."  Summer is over, so the search committee should be well on its way to finding Noel's successor. I'm certain that the future direction of football must a top priority for the committee and that leading candidates will have given it some thought. I'd hope he/she will be in place in early Spring . . .

It's highly doubtful Archer will better his record next season, so the new AD will be searching for a new football HC as his/her first major hire.

Ken711

Two of the five teams Cornell beat, Lehigh and VMI, are replacing their head coaches.

Trotsky

Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: George64
Quote from: billhowardArcher will get another year, I believe:

* There's nobody to take (or demand) a resignation, or start a search. Outgoing athletic director Andy Noel is in the process of winding down his Cornell tenure and he's not going to saddle the successor with a coach not of her choosing.
 
According to the press release, "Noel will serve in the position through the end of the 2021-22 academic year and into the 2022-23 academic year until a successor is named."  A national search will commence in late summer."  Summer is over, so the search committee should be well on its way to finding Noel's successor. I'm certain that the future direction of football must a top priority for the committee and that leading candidates will have given it some thought. I'd hope he/she will be in place in early Spring . . .

It's highly doubtful Archer will better his record next season, so the new AD will be searching for a new football HC as his/her first major hire.

If you go 5-5 as Cornell coach you probably have earned a one year contract to be fair.  That's like finishing .500 in the ECAC for Brown hockey.

CAS

Cornell football finished 2-5 in the Ivies. Going 3-0 against non-Ivy teams who were a combined 6-27 doesn't negate another dismal Ivy season.  Why do some accept being a doormat in football?  Look
at the turnaround of Cornell soccer.  As a 14th seed, Cornell is into the 3rd round of the NCAA tourney.  205 teams play D-1 soccer.  Don't know why, with the right coach & support, Cornell shouldn't be competitive in Ivy football.

BearLover

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: George64
Quote from: billhowardArcher will get another year, I believe:

* There's nobody to take (or demand) a resignation, or start a search. Outgoing athletic director Andy Noel is in the process of winding down his Cornell tenure and he's not going to saddle the successor with a coach not of her choosing.
 
According to the press release, "Noel will serve in the position through the end of the 2021-22 academic year and into the 2022-23 academic year until a successor is named."  A national search will commence in late summer."  Summer is over, so the search committee should be well on its way to finding Noel's successor. I'm certain that the future direction of football must a top priority for the committee and that leading candidates will have given it some thought. I'd hope he/she will be in place in early Spring . . .

It's highly doubtful Archer will better his record next season, so the new AD will be searching for a new football HC as his/her first major hire.

If you go 5-5 as Cornell coach you probably have earned a one year contract to be fair.  That's like finishing .500 in the ECAC for Brown hockey.
Saying Cornell football is a .500 team is this year's version of everybody last year saying the hockey team was 9-0-1 after winning 4 games at home in OT vs bad teams (which counts as less than half of a win in the PWR).

TimV

It's striking (to me, anyway) that Andy's weekend summary covers everything EXCEPT football.  It is included, way down near the bottom of the SID's list.
"Yo Paulie - I don't see no crowd gathering 'round you neither."

ugarte

i would not oppose a coaching change i just don't really care that much or think it will make that much difference, just as the last few changes did not. i don't think it's a particuarly coveted job.