Cornell football 2022

Started by billhoward, June 14, 2022, 11:56:02 AM

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billhoward

2022 Cornell Big Red football schedule. Incredibly, Cornell hasn't formally published game times as of mid-June.
[b]Date        Opponent[/b]
Sep17 130   @VMI 130pm per VMI
[b][color=#FF0000]Sep24       Yale (Homecoming)[/color][/b]
Oct01       @Colgate (which opens at Stanford)
Oct07       Harvard (Friday night lights)
Oct15       Lehigh
Oct22       @Brown
Oct29       @Princeton
Nov05       Penn
Nov12       Dartmouth
Nov19       @Columbia


247 Sports ranks 2022 Ivy football teams by recruiting as 1 Princeton, 2 Harvard, 3 Yale, 4 Penn as of 6/13/22 and puts an N/A for rankings of Columbia, Brown, Cornell and Dartmouth.

CU2007

Quote from: billhoward2022 Cornell Big Red football schedule. Incredibly, Cornell hasn't formally published game times as of mid-June.
[b]Date        Opponent[/b]
Sep17 130   @VMI 130pm per VMI
[b][color=#FF0000]Sep24       Yale (Homecoming)[/color][/b]
Oct01       @Colgate (which opens at Stanford)
Oct07       Harvard (Friday night lights)
Oct15       Lehigh
Oct22       @Brown
Oct29       @Princeton
Nov05       Penn
Nov12       Dartmouth
Nov19       @Columbia


247 Sports ranks 2022 Ivy football teams by recruiting as 1 Princeton, 2 Harvard, 3 Yale, 4 Penn as of 6/13/22 and puts an N/A for rankings of Columbia, Brown, Cornell and Dartmouth.

"Never heard of any of these guys"

Trotsky

Quote from: CU2007"Never heard of any of these guys"

This guy here is dead.


scoop85

Quote from: Ken7112022 Recruiting Class of 2026

https://cornellbigred.com/news/2022/6/15/big-red-football-announces-class-of-2026.aspx

No biographical info included, which is sort of weak.

George64

Quote from: billhoward2022 Cornell Big Red football schedule. Incredibly, Cornell hasn't formally published game times as of mid-June.
[b]Date        Opponent[/b]
Sep17 130   @VMI 130pm per VMI
[b][color=#FF0000]Sep24       Yale (Homecoming)[/color][/b]
Oct01       @Colgate (which opens at Stanford)
Oct07       Harvard (Friday night lights)
Oct15       Lehigh
Oct22       @Brown
Oct29       @Princeton
Nov05       Penn
Nov12       Dartmouth
Nov19       @Columbia


247 Sports ranks 2022 Ivy football teams by recruiting as 1 Princeton, 2 Harvard, 3 Yale, 4 Penn as of 6/13/22 and puts an N/A for rankings of Columbia, Brown, Cornell and Dartmouth.

Colgate was one of the two teams that Cornell beat last season and they're opening at Stanford!  Their team must be vastly improved or their AD and coaches are masochists.  Cornell played Stanford in 1991 and lost 56-6.  I'm not optimistic about beating the Red Raiders this year.
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Swampy

Quote from: https://cornellbigred.com/news/2022/6/15/big-red-football-announces-class-of-2026.aspxThe Class of 2026, featuring 25 members, will hit campus this fall looking to help Cornell to its first Ivy title on the gridiron since 1990.

But fans would be happy just to have the first winning season since 2005. ::cry::

Ken711

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: https://cornellbigred.com/news/2022/6/15/big-red-football-announces-class-of-2026.aspxThe Class of 2026, featuring 25 members, will hit campus this fall looking to help Cornell to its first Ivy title on the gridiron since 1990.

But fans would be happy just to have the first winning season since 2005. ::cry::

That most likely won't happen until the new Cornell AD replaces Archer.

Swampy

Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: https://cornellbigred.com/news/2022/6/15/big-red-football-announces-class-of-2026.aspxThe Class of 2026, featuring 25 members, will hit campus this fall looking to help Cornell to its first Ivy title on the gridiron since 1990.

But fans would be happy just to have the first winning season since 2005. ::cry::

That most likely won't happen until the new Cornell AD replaces Archer.

Perhaps the reason for not including biographical information in the announcement is that Archer is too busy revising his resume.

Also he presents an interesting contrast regarding AN's proclivity for replacing head coaches with recent graduates:
  • In the case of Connor Buczek & Jordan Stevens, after one season it now appears everyone will live happily ever after.
  • In the case of Ben DeLuca, it ended unfortunately, but in terms of W's & L's, he was a successful coach at Cornell.But after his firing, it took him 10 years to remake himself into a successful head coach.
  • But what happens when an alum coach is a total failure but for over ten years has been out of the job market for graduates in the field they studied? They're not competitive elsewhere as a coach, but neither are they competitive any longer in their academic field. No happy ending here.

Ken711

Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: Ken711
Quote from: Swampy
Quote from: https://cornellbigred.com/news/2022/6/15/big-red-football-announces-class-of-2026.aspxThe Class of 2026, featuring 25 members, will hit campus this fall looking to help Cornell to its first Ivy title on the gridiron since 1990.

But fans would be happy just to have the first winning season since 2005. ::cry::

That most likely won't happen until the new Cornell AD replaces Archer.

Perhaps the reason for not including biographical information in the announcement is that Archer is too busy revising his resume.

Also he presents an interesting contrast regarding AN's proclivity for replacing head coaches with recent graduates:
  • In the case of Connor Buczek & Jordan Stevens, after one season it now appears everyone will live happily ever after.
  • In the case of Ben DeLuca, it ended unfortunately, but in terms of W's & L's, he was a successful coach at Cornell.But after his firing, it took him 10 years to remake himself into a successful head coach.
  • But what happens when an alum coach is a total failure but for over ten years has been out of the job market for graduates in the field they studied? They're not competitive elsewhere as a coach, but neither are they competitive any longer in their academic field. No happy ending here.

My guess is Archer either ends up as a HC at a lower level like Division 3, or accepts an assistant coach position on an FCS program's staff somewhere.

George64

Quote from: SwampyBut what happens when an alum coach is a total failure but for over ten years has been out of the job market for graduates in the field they studied? They're not competitive elsewhere as a coach, but neither are they competitive any longer in their academic field. No happy ending here.

After his graduation, Archer taught fourth and eigth grades as part of the Teach For America program.  He might make an excellent teacher.  Good ones are in short supply.

Swampy

Quote from: George64
Quote from: SwampyBut what happens when an alum coach is a total failure but for over ten years has been out of the job market for graduates in the field they studied? They're not competitive elsewhere as a coach, but neither are they competitive any longer in their academic field. No happy ending here.

After his graduation, Archer taught fourth and eigth grades as part of the Teach For America program.  He might make an excellent teacher.  Good ones are in short supply.

I didn't know this. K-12 teaching is one field where demand is so much greater than supply that being out of the profession for a time may have little impact on one's prospects.

There's also a subtle gender element in that almost 75% of K-12 teachers are women, who themselves often absent themselves from the labor market to bear and care for their own children. In the corporate world this has major detrimental impacts, and one suspects it's also true in K-12 education, if for no other reason than there's some movement between K-12 teaching and corporate jobs. But because women dominate the profession, such employment gaps may be the norm among teachers. If Archer, who has been out of teaching for some time, is well suited for teaching, an occupation where such gaps are common, his sojourn as a college football coach might have minimal impact on his job prospects as a teacher.

He might make a great high-school teacher & football coach. I wish him success and happiness wherever his career takes him.

Then again, lots of great football coaches, from Bob Blackman to George Seifert, have tried to MCFGA (Make Cornell Football Great Again) and failed. So, maybe Coach Archer will get a second chance as a professional football coach and go on to win multiple Super Bowls and division championships too. Good luck to him!

George64

Quote from: SwampyHe might make a great high-school teacher & football coach. I wish him success and happiness wherever his career takes him.

Then again, lots of great football coaches, from Bob Blackman to George Seifert, have tried to MCFGA (Make Cornell Football Great Again) and failed. So, maybe Coach Archer will get a second chance as a professional football coach and go on to win multiple Super Bowls and division championships too. Good luck to him!

For sure, Seifert had a terrible record (3 and 15) in his two years at Cornell, but I've always thought that he was let go because Bob Blackman became available.  Blackman was extraordinarily successful at Dartmouth, but less so at Illinois.  On the Hill, the two coaches were 26-48-1, pretty impressive by today's standards.
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dbilmes

If Archer does return to teaching, as a third-year teacher he will be taking a huge pay cut from his current salary. But he's still the Cornell football coach, isn't he?

Ken711

Quote from: dbilmesIf Archer does return to teaching, as a third-year teacher he will be taking a huge pay cut from his current salary. But he's still the Cornell football coach, isn't he?

Indeed he is.  Unless by some miracle he finishes with a winning record in this, his 10th year of trying, then its see ya.