Opponents and Others, 2022-23

[scoop85]

Coronado signed with Calgary this evening. Rough week for Harvard

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[RichH]

Quinnipiac has now made the frozen four three times since the last time Cornell did. What a disgrace.

Same number of titles, and we eliminated them once. But yes, that was before they decided to run their program like an ECHL franchise both in entertainment value and academic integrity. There's a reason every coach in the league hates Rand.

[Scersk '97]

Quinnipiac has now made the frozen four three times since the last time Cornell did. What a disgrace.

And between 1980 and 2003, Harvard made it five times and won a championship. And between 2003 and now, Union made it twice, and Harvard and Yale made it once each, and Yale and Union won championships. And there was a once a stretch in which the ECAC very rarely had more than two teams in the tournament, and two times (2001 and 2004) we only had one. This year we had four, and we recently commonly get three, with 2021 as an obvious aberration.

So, what exactly is your point? It's not an exact fucking science. There are ups and downs. But in no way is how this program has performed at any time during Schafer's tenure a disgrace. I loved the team when I was in school; we play much better hockey at a consistently higher level now. I would have loved for us to win a championship when I was young, but it was a pipe dream; it's basically never a pipe dream now.

I only engage because your analysis in other situations warrants it. Go touch some grass and get some fucking perspective.

(And anyway, QU was lucky to escape that one. I expect them to get blasted at the Frozen Four.)

[BearLover]

Quinnipiac has now made the frozen four three times since the last time Cornell did. What a disgrace.

And between 1980 and 2003, Harvard made it five times and won a championship. And between 2003 and now, Union made it twice, and Harvard and Yale made it once each, and Yale and Union won championships. And there was a once a stretch in which the ECAC very rarely had more than two teams in the tournament, and two times (2001 and 2004) we only had one. This year we had four, and we recently commonly get three, with 2021 as an obvious aberration.

So, what exactly is your point? It's not an exact fucking science. There are ups and downs. But in no way is how this program has performed at any time during Schafer's tenure a disgrace. I loved the team when I was in school; we play much better hockey at a consistently higher level now. I would have loved for us to win a championship when I was young, but it was a pipe dream; it's basically never a pipe dream now.

I only engage because your analysis in other situations warrants it. Go touch some grass and get some fucking perspective.

(And anyway, QU was lucky to escape that one. I expect them to get blasted at the Frozen Four.)

In my opinion, it is disgraceful that a totally random school no one has ever heard of with zero hockey tradition and zero academic standards went division 1 like 25 years ago and surpassed the Cornell hockey program. It was demoralizing when Yale and Union won, too.

[Scersk '97]

In my opinion, it is disgraceful that a totally random school no one has ever heard of with zero hockey tradition and zero academic standards went division 1 like 25 years ago and surpassed the Cornell hockey program. It was demoralizing when Yale and Union won, too.

Whatever, dude.

[marty]

In my opinion, it is disgraceful that a totally random school no one has ever heard of with zero hockey tradition and zero academic standards went division 1 like 25 years ago and surpassed the Cornell hockey program. It was demoralizing when Yale and Union won, too.

Hope you enjoyed a first round draft pick win the OT game and Clay Mouth-man overlook our 1 goal loss.

BL, I hope you enjoy mowing your lawn this summer and if there's one thing I'm not looking forward to next fall...

[BearLover]

In my opinion, it is disgraceful that a totally random school no one has ever heard of with zero hockey tradition and zero academic standards went division 1 like 25 years ago and surpassed the Cornell hockey program. It was demoralizing when Yale and Union won, too.

Hope you enjoyed a first round draft pick win the OT game and Clay Mouth-man overlook our 1 goal loss.

BL, I hope you enjoy mowing your lawn this summer and if there's one thing I'm not looking forward to next fall...

I always enjoy mowing my lawn. Thank you :-)

[Trotsky]

School with lowest admissions standards in conference that has repeatedly bent recruiting rules has advantage in getting players.

[abmarks]

Quinnipiac has now made the frozen four three times since the last time Cornell did. What a disgrace.

And between 1980 and 2003, Harvard made it five times and won a championship. And between 2003 and now, Union made it twice, and Harvard and Yale made it once each, and Yale and Union won championships. And there was a once a stretch in which the ECAC very rarely had more than two teams in the tournament, and two times (2001 and 2004) we only had one. This year we had four, and we recently commonly get three, with 2021 as an obvious aberration.

So, what exactly is your point? It's not an exact fucking science. There are ups and downs. But in no way is how this program has performed at any time during Schafer's tenure a disgrace. I loved the team when I was in school; we play much better hockey at a consistently higher level now. I would have loved for us to win a championship when I was young, but it was a pipe dream; it's basically never a pipe dream now.

I only engage because your analysis in other situations warrants it. Go touch some grass and get some fucking perspective.

(And anyway, QU was lucky to escape that one. I expect them to get blasted at the Frozen Four.)

In my opinion, it is disgraceful that a totally random school no one has ever heard of with zero hockey tradition and zero academic standards went division 1 like 25 years ago and surpassed the Cornell hockey program. It was demoralizing when Yale and Union won, too.

Semantics issue here

Is it demoralizing to see this? Yes.

Disgraceful?  If your perspective is that it's gross to be in a system where low academic standards and piles of money let a school spend their way to the top then I take your point.

But you know as well as anyone that we aren't on a level playing field, athletically speaking, with Q.  Not just the scholarships and low standards; they have superior facilities with their arena and are geographically better located to population centers as well. And it's not like they just tossed money at the problem...pecknold has coached them up pretty well.   Plenty of coaches have flopped or underachieved with even more talented rosters.

I hate that a rival has managed that, too.  But let's get real here, we are what we are.  Without scholarships, expanded game schedule, and a lot more academic latitude, anytime we reach a frozen four or somehow win it all we will have tremendously overachieved reasonable expectations.

[BearLover]

Harvard's top 4 scorers—Farrell, Laferriere, Coronato, and Thrun—have all signed NHL deals. And goalie Gibson is out of eligibility. Meanwhile, Clarkson is getting wrecked by the transfer portal. Very nice! Just need Michigan to smoke Quinnipiac in the frozen four and I will consider this a successful couple of weeks.

[Trotsky]

Meanwhile, Clarkson is getting wrecked by the transfer portal.

I know they lost players but were they good players?

[Trotsky]

From the Harvard team thread on USCHO:

I wish the Harvard players who left the best in the NHL, always root for them. That said, I don't understand how a player like Coronato can make it in the NHL. He took a big hit against Princeton in the ECAC playoffs, afterwards didn't go into the corners or dig. Has not looked like the same players since, gun-shy and gets testy with contact. How will he survive in the NHL?

Myself, I wish Harvard would recruit players who are not as flashy, but good solid workers, who are committed to the team rather than their own careers after playing a few years. The kind of players the Cornells recruit.

[BearLover]

From the Harvard team thread on USCHO:

I wish the Harvard players who left the best in the NHL, always root for them. That said, I don't understand how a player like Coronato can make it in the NHL. He took a big hit against Princeton in the ECAC playoffs, afterwards didn't go into the corners or dig. Has not looked like the same players since, gun-shy and gets testy with contact. How will he survive in the NHL?

Myself, I wish Harvard would recruit players who are not as flashy, but good solid workers, who are committed to the team rather than their own careers after playing a few years. The kind of players the Cornells recruit.

Wow. The Harvard hockey version of me.

[BearLover]

Meanwhile, Clarkson is getting wrecked by the transfer portal.

I know they lost players but were they good players?

Clarkson players in the portal include Ethan Haider (starting goalie and fifth round draft pick) and Alex Campbell (one of Clarkson's leading scorers and third round draft pick, who is transferring to Northeastern).

[abmarks]

From the Harvard team thread on USCHO:

I wish the Harvard players who left the best in the NHL, always root for them. That said, I don't understand how a player like Coronato can make it in the NHL. He took a big hit against Princeton in the ECAC playoffs, afterwards didn't go into the corners or dig. Has not looked like the same players since, gun-shy and gets testy with contact. How will he survive in the NHL?

Myself, I wish Harvard would recruit players who are not as flashy, but good solid workers, who are committed to the team rather than their own careers after playing a few years. The kind of players the Cornells recruit.

Wow. The Harvard hockey version of me.

Now if only there were a trading window for forum-posters.