Opponents and Others, 2022-23

Started by dbilmes, April 10, 2022, 08:47:23 PM

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Trotsky

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Quote from: BearLoverMeanwhile, Clarkson is getting wrecked by the transfer portal.
I know they lost players but were they good players?
Clarkson players in the portal include Ethan Haider (starting goalie and fifth round draft pick) and Alex Campbell (one of Clarkson's leading scorers and third round draft pick, who is transferring to Northeastern).
Yikes.  Sorry, Casey.

Trotsky

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Quote from: TrotskyFrom the Harvard team thread on USCHO:

QuoteI wish the Harvard players who left the best in the NHL, always root for them. That said, I don't understand how a player like Coronato can make it in the NHL. He took a big hit against Princeton in the ECAC playoffs, afterwards didn't go into the corners or dig. Has not looked like the same players since, gun-shy and gets testy with contact. How will he survive in the NHL?

Myself, I wish Harvard would recruit players who are not as flashy, but good solid workers, who are committed to the team rather than their own careers after playing a few years. The kind of players the Cornells recruit.
Wow. The Harvard hockey version of me.

Now if only there were a trading window for forum-posters. ;)

Trust me on this: we do not want any of the folks who post to the Harvard USCHO thread.  BearLover is Foster Hewitt compared to them.

abmarks

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Quote from: TrotskyFrom the Harvard team thread on USCHO:

QuoteI wish the Harvard players who left the best in the NHL, always root for them. That said, I don't understand how a player like Coronato can make it in the NHL. He took a big hit against Princeton in the ECAC playoffs, afterwards didn't go into the corners or dig. Has not looked like the same players since, gun-shy and gets testy with contact. How will he survive in the NHL?

Myself, I wish Harvard would recruit players who are not as flashy, but good solid workers, who are committed to the team rather than their own careers after playing a few years. The kind of players the Cornells recruit.
Wow. The Harvard hockey version of me.

Now if only there were a trading window for forum-posters. ;)

Trust me on this: we do not want any of the folks who post to the Harvard USCHO thread.  BearLover is Foster Hewitt compared to them.

I'd make the trade and then cut the other poster before their contact was guaranteed.

adamw

Clarkson also already got one player in from the portal. The Alex Campbell one I don't get - the others are no big deal. Haider wasn't that great.
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BearLover

Quote from: adamwClarkson also already got one player in from the portal. The Alex Campbell one I don't get - the others are no big deal. Haider wasn't that great.
Two of their everyday defenseman, and one everyday forward, are in the portal too. They did pick up a good forward from the portal, though.

Trotsky

Quote from: adamwClarkson also already got one player in from the portal. The Alex Campbell one I don't get - the others are no big deal. Haider wasn't that great.
IIRC he was pretty darn good against us. ::pissed::

nshapiro

I understand the antipathy toward Q, but what is the alternative -
Q leaving the ECAC, having our SOS (and indirectly, RPI and pairwise) suffer, and all of Q's accomplishments credited to another conference?

I don't miss the EZAC days, and I don't want them back.
When Section D was the place to be

ursusminor

Jack Malone entered the portal.

Dafatone

Quote from: ursusminorJack Malone entered the portal.

Can I just say I love this terminology? Very foreboding sci-fi vibe.

BearLover

I assume Stienburg and Malinski sign pro deals. That leaves Malone, Berard, Dirven, Malinski, and Tupker to decide whether they want to use their last year of eligibility somewhere else, or sign a pro deal, or retire from hockey. If the Ivy League allowed graduate student athletes, I bet most or all of them would be back in Ithaca next year.

Trotsky

I can't see it ever happening.  The Presidents are protecting the brand by creating this discriminator with all other conferences and hoping it keeps up the patina of prestige.  If the Ivies ever lose that perceived aura of being Above It All then Pollack, Paxson, Hanlon et al. lose their brand advantage and alumni lose bragging rights and stop giving.

This is purely a business decision, like the Brits keeping the monarchy.

scoop85

Quote from: ursusminorJack Malone entered the portal.

He'll be a nice addition for someone, hopefully in another conference.


BearLover

Teams across the country are announcing that seniors will be coming back for their graduate season. For example, Minnesota-Duluth just announced that three NHL draft pick seniors and key contributors will be returning for a fifth year. Meanwhile, a team like BC coming off of a disappointing season can recognize it is short a player on defense and pull a top fifth year player out of the portal. Cornell and the Ivies are at a huge disadvantage here.

I actually think the transfer portal may indirectly help the Ivies going forward. Players move so freely now in large part because they do not value getting a degree at their current school. Ivies have an advantage where it is much harder to justify leaving school and giving up the degree. We may not get many/any transfers, but at least we will retain the players we do have and not see mass defections like at Clarkson, Union, etc.

But first we need to make it through the next two years, the final couple of seasons of fifth year COVID eligibility. We will be at a huge disadvantage until then, but at that time I think things will even out.

abmarks

Quote from: BearLoverTeams across the country are announcing that seniors will be coming back for their graduate season. For example, Minnesota-Duluth just announced that three NHL draft pick seniors and key contributors will be returning for a fifth year. Meanwhile, a team like BC coming off of a disappointing season can recognize it is short a player on defense and pull a top fifth year player out of the portal. Cornell and the Ivies are at a huge disadvantage here.

I actually think the transfer portal may indirectly help the Ivies going forward. Players move so freely now in large part because they do not value getting a degree at their current school. Ivies have an advantage where it is much harder to justify leaving school and giving up the degree. We may not get many/any transfers, but at least we will retain the players we do have and not see mass defections like at Clarkson, Union, etc.

But first we need to make it through the next two years, the final couple of seasons of fifth year COVID eligibility. We will be at a huge disadvantage until then, but at that time I think things will even out.

Even ChatGPT thinks you are long-winded.

Quote from: ChatGPTSure! Here's a shorter and more concise version of the essay:

"Seniors returning for their graduate season is impacting college teams. Some teams benefit while others, like Cornell and the Ivies, are disadvantaged. The transfer portal may help the Ivies as players value their degrees and are less likely to leave. The Ivies will be disadvantaged for two years due to COVID eligibility but things will even out after that."