ECAC playoffs 2022

[billhoward]

This is the ECAC men's hockey playoff schedule for 2022. Most likely outcome for Cornell: first weekend off, second weekend host and beat Colgate (best 2 of 3, one bad game is not fatal), third weekend in Lake Placid play Quinnipiac Friday March at 4 p.m.

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[b]Round 1       QFinal                Semis               Title
March 4-6     Mar 11-13             Fri Mar 18          Sat Mar 19[/b]
----------    ------------          -------------       ---------------
@8-SLU        @1-Quinnipiac vs.     Highest survivor    7:30pm
 9-Brown      8 St. Lawrence        Lowest survivor
                                    4 pm Lake Placid
@5-Colgate    @4-Cornell vs.  
12-Yale       5 Colgate  

@6-RPI        @3-Harvard vs.         Middle survivor    No third-
11-Dartmouth  6 RPI                  Middle survivor    place game
                                     7:30pm
@7-Union      @2-Clarkson vs.
10-Princeton  7 Union
Higher-seeded team (upper line, e.g. SLU, Colgate) hosts in first and second round.

Notes:
* Quinnipiac, Clarkson Harvard and Cornell are the top 4 seeds. They get the first weekend off.
* The tournament is reseeded after each round so highest plays lowest.
* If top seeds win in the first round then second round:
  -- Cornell plays Colgate weekend of March 11-13
  -- Cornell plays Quinnipiac 4pm Friday March 18 in Lake Placid. (If a 6-12 team wins a first round series, Q plays not Cornell but someone seeded lower.) Top seed plays early game Friday.
  -- Cornell if after 3rd upset of Q Friday, if beats Clarkson Saturday, wins 13th ECAC playoff title, likely the only way to make the NCAAs  
* The Lake Placid Olympic ice surface (the big rink, the Miracle on Ice rink, capacity 7,700), has been re-imagined and redone to be a 200x85 NHL surface. If I read correctly, it can be configured either way and for the ECACs it will be 200x85 not 200x100.
* Apropos of Lake Placid's future as a winter sports center, there is talk -- hope? -- that once again Lake Placid would host a Winter Olympics. If it were to happen, Salt Lake City is next up for U.S. site-bidding, and the LP Olympics III backers say such an event might be a joint Lake Placid-Montreal effort, 110 miles distant while China's venues were as much as 140 miles apart. https://cnycentral.com/sports/olympics/future-lake-placid-olympics-are-not-out-of-the-question

Ticket information for the Lake Placid tournament is at https://www.ecachockey.com/men/championship/2022_Fan_Guide.
Tickets are both games / single game
Adult = $60 / $40
Junior/Senior = $50 / $35
Students = $30 / $15
Games are on ESPN+

[andyw2100]

While much of the above is helpful, it looks like someone needs a refresher on the woofing gods.

[Jim Hyla]

While much of the above is helpful, it looks like someone needs a refresher on the woofing gods.

He did put ifs in his discussion.

[marty]

This is the ECAC men's hockey playoff schedule for 2022, I believe. Positions 8-12 are not locked in. Most likely outcome for Cornell: first weekend off, second weekend host and beat Colgate (best 2 of 3, one bad game is not fatal), third weekend in Lake Placid play Quinnipiac Friday March at 4 p.m.

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[b]Round 1       QFinal                Semis               Title
March 4-6     Mar 11-13             Fri Mar 18          Sat Mar 19[/b]
----------    ------------          -------------       ---------------
*8-SLU        @1-Quinnipiac vs.     Highest survivor    7:30pm
 9-Princeton  Lowest survivor       Lowest survivor
                                    4 pm Lake Placid
 5-Colgate    @4-Cornell vs.  
12-Yale       Highest survivor  

 6-RPI        @3-Harvard vs.         Middle survivor    No third-
11-Dartmouth  2nd highest survivor   Middle survivor    place game
                                     7:30pm
 7-Union      @2-Clarkson vs.
10-Brown      2nd lowest survivor
* 8-12 are placeholders, depend on H@P Sunday 2/27. SLU 8th if H>P

Notes:
* Quinnipiac, Clarkson Harvard and Cornell are the top 4 seeds. They get the first weekend off.
* The tournament is reseeded after each round so highest plays lowest.
* If top seeds win in the first round then second round:
  -- Cornell plays Colgate weekend of March 11-13
  -- Cornell plays Quinnipiac 4pm Friday March 18 in Lake Placid. (If a 6-12 team wins a first round series, Q plays not Cornell but someone seeded lower.) Top seed plays early game Friday.
  -- Cornell if after 3rd upset of Q Friday, if beats Clarkson Saturday, wins 13th ECAC playoff title, likely the only way to make the NCAAs  
* The Lake Placid Olympic ice surface (the big rink, the Miracle on Ice rink, capacity 7,700), has been re-imagined and redone to be a 200x85 NHL surface. If I read correctly, it can be configured either way and for the ECACs it will be 200x85 not 200x100.
* Apropos of Lake Placid's future as a winter sports center, there is talk -- hope? -- that once again Lake Placid would host a Winter Olympics. If it were to happen, Salt Lake City is next up for U.S. site-bidding, and the LP Olympics III backers say such an event might be a joint Lake Placid-Montreal effort, 110 miles distant while China's venues were as much as 140 miles apart. https://cnycentral.com/sports/olympics/future-lake-placid-olympics-are-not-out-of-the-question

Ticket information for the Lake Placid tournament is at https://www.ecachockey.com/men/championship/2022_Fan_Guide.
Tickets are both games / single game
Adult = $60 / $40
Junior/Senior = $50 / $35
Students = $30 / $15
Games are on ESPN+

Since Dartmouth apparently won the tie breaker vs Yale this begs as to why they pulled their goalie in OT vs Union last night.

[andyw2100]

While much of the above is helpful, it looks like someone needs a refresher on the woofing gods.

He did put ifs in his discussion.

He edited those in after I posted. Let's hope the woofing gods never saw the original post.

[billhoward]

He edited those in after I posted. Let's hope the woofing god's never saw the original post.

If the gods know about rollback, the original is still there.

[marty]

This is the ECAC men's hockey playoff schedule for 2022. Most likely outcome for Cornell: first weekend off, second weekend host and beat Colgate (best 2 of 3, one bad game is not fatal), third weekend in Lake Placid play Quinnipiac Friday March at 4 p.m.

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[b]Round 1       QFinal                Semis               Title
March 4-6     Mar 11-13             Fri Mar 18          Sat Mar 19[/b]
----------    ------------          -------------       ---------------
@8-SLU        @1-Quinnipiac vs.     Highest survivor    7:30pm
 9-Princeton  Lowest survivor       Lowest survivor
                                    4 pm Lake Placid
@5-Colgate    @4-Cornell vs.  
12-Yale       Highest survivor  

@6-RPI        @3-Harvard vs.         Middle survivor    No third-
11-Dartmouth  2nd highest survivor   Middle survivor    place game
                                     7:30pm
@7-Union      @2-Clarkson vs.
10-Princeton  2nd lowest survivor
Higher-seeded team (upper line, e.g. SLU, Colgate) hosts in first and second round.

Notes:
* Quinnipiac, Clarkson Harvard and Cornell are the top 4 seeds. They get the first weekend off.
* The tournament is reseeded after each round so highest plays lowest.
* If top seeds win in the first round then second round:
  -- Cornell plays Colgate weekend of March 11-13
  -- Cornell plays Quinnipiac 4pm Friday March 18 in Lake Placid. (If a 6-12 team wins a first round series, Q plays not Cornell but someone seeded lower.) Top seed plays early game Friday.
  -- Cornell if after 3rd upset of Q Friday, if beats Clarkson Saturday, wins 13th ECAC playoff title, likely the only way to make the NCAAs  
* The Lake Placid Olympic ice surface (the big rink, the Miracle on Ice rink, capacity 7,700), has been re-imagined and redone to be a 200x85 NHL surface. If I read correctly, it can be configured either way and for the ECACs it will be 200x85 not 200x100.
* Apropos of Lake Placid's future as a winter sports center, there is talk -- hope? -- that once again Lake Placid would host a Winter Olympics. If it were to happen, Salt Lake City is next up for U.S. site-bidding, and the LP Olympics III backers say such an event might be a joint Lake Placid-Montreal effort, 110 miles distant while China's venues were as much as 140 miles apart. https://cnycentral.com/sports/olympics/future-lake-placid-olympics-are-not-out-of-the-question

Ticket information for the Lake Placid tournament is at https://www.ecachockey.com/men/championship/2022_Fan_Guide.
Tickets are both games / single game
Adult = $60 / $40
Junior/Senior = $50 / $35
Students = $30 / $15
Games are on ESPN+

Princeton playing in Schenectady and Canton?

[Tcl123]

This is the ECAC men's hockey playoff schedule for 2022. Most likely outcome for Cornell: first weekend off, second weekend host and beat Colgate (best 2 of 3, one bad game is not fatal), third weekend in Lake Placid play Quinnipiac Friday March at 4 p.m.

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[b]Round 1       QFinal                Semis               Title
March 4-6     Mar 11-13             Fri Mar 18          Sat Mar 19[/b]
----------    ------------          -------------       ---------------
@8-SLU        @1-Quinnipiac vs.     Highest survivor    7:30pm
 9-Princeton  Lowest survivor       Lowest survivor
                                    4 pm Lake Placid
@5-Colgate    @4-Cornell vs.  
12-Yale       Highest survivor  

@6-RPI        @3-Harvard vs.         Middle survivor    No third-
11-Dartmouth  2nd highest survivor   Middle survivor    place game
                                     7:30pm
@7-Union      @2-Clarkson vs.
10-Princeton  2nd lowest survivor
Higher-seeded team (upper line, e.g. SLU, Colgate) hosts in first and second round.

Notes:
* Quinnipiac, Clarkson Harvard and Cornell are the top 4 seeds. They get the first weekend off.
* The tournament is reseeded after each round so highest plays lowest.
* If top seeds win in the first round then second round:
  -- Cornell plays Colgate weekend of March 11-13
  -- Cornell plays Quinnipiac 4pm Friday March 18 in Lake Placid. (If a 6-12 team wins a first round series, Q plays not Cornell but someone seeded lower.) Top seed plays early game Friday.
  -- Cornell if after 3rd upset of Q Friday, if beats Clarkson Saturday, wins 13th ECAC playoff title, likely the only way to make the NCAAs  
* The Lake Placid Olympic ice surface (the big rink, the Miracle on Ice rink, capacity 7,700), has been re-imagined and redone to be a 200x85 NHL surface. If I read correctly, it can be configured either way and for the ECACs it will be 200x85 not 200x100.
* Apropos of Lake Placid's future as a winter sports center, there is talk -- hope? -- that once again Lake Placid would host a Winter Olympics. If it were to happen, Salt Lake City is next up for U.S. site-bidding, and the LP Olympics III backers say such an event might be a joint Lake Placid-Montreal effort, 110 miles distant while China's venues were as much as 140 miles apart. https://cnycentral.com/sports/olympics/future-lake-placid-olympics-are-not-out-of-the-question

Ticket information for the Lake Placid tournament is at https://www.ecachockey.com/men/championship/2022_Fan_Guide.
Tickets are both games / single game
Adult = $60 / $40
Junior/Senior = $50 / $35
Students = $30 / $15
Games are on ESPN+

Princeton playing in Schenectady and Canton?

Probably still better than browns chances.

[billhoward]

St Lawrence, 26 ECAC points, is hosting Brown, 25 points. Princeton plays at Union.  

I failed to mention SLU is also the defending ECAC champion, the entire 2021 ECAC tournament being just two games (was to have been three): St Lawrence over Colgate, Quinnipiac with a bye on account of Clarkson players getting sick, then SLU over Q. See, it is possible to beat Quinnipiac for the ECAC title. Q then went to the NCAAs when St. Lawrence got sick.

[Trotsky]

Let's see if the Participation Points mattered at all:

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[b]
Pl      W  L T Pt PP PN[/b]
 1 Qpc 17  4 1 35 19 54
 2 Clk 14  4 4 32 19 51
 3 Hvd 14  6 2 30 16 46
 4 Cor 12  6 4 28 11 39
 5 Cgt  9  9 4 22 11 33
 6 RPI 10 12 0 20 10 30
 6 Uni  9 11 2 20  7 27
 8 SLU  7 10 5 19  7 26
 9 Brn  6 12 4 16  9 25
10 Prn  7 14 1 15  8 23
11 Yal  7 14 1 15  6 21
11 Drt  5 15 2 12  9 21


I can't speak to (1) the tie breakers if we had used the Right Way, or (2) the official final standings this year, for that matter.  It does seem that in normal years the Participation Points will stretch the standings (see the controversial lemma, 3 > 2) and be better for the better teams, so, fine, good for us (hopefully).

In conclusion, fuck Gary Bettman.

[billhoward]

Hey, careful there. In its cover (?) story on him, Sports Illustrated said Gary Bettman may be the best commissioner the NHL ever had. If I recall, the following sentence was to the effect of, "...considering who came before him ..."

[Trotsky]

OK, update for the actual standings:

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[b]Pl      W  L T Pt PP PN[/b]
 1 Qpc 17  4 1 35 19 54
 2 Clk 14  4 4 32 19 51
 3 Hvd 14  6 2 30 16 46
 4 Cor 12  6 4 28 11 39
 5 Cgt  9  9 4 22 11 33
 6 RPI 10 12 0 20 10 30
 7 Uni  9 11 2 20  7 27
 8 SLU  7 10 5 19  7 26
 9 Brn  6 12 4 16  9 25
10 Prn  7 14 1 15  8 23
11 Drt  5 15 2 12  9 21
12 Yal  7 14 1 15  6 21


So Yale got fucked.

[Trotsky]

QF:

12 Yale at 5 Colgate
11 Dartmouth at 6 RPI
10 Princeton at 7 Union
9 Brown at 8 St. Lawrence

[Tcl123]

QF:

12 Yale at 5 Colgate
11 Dartmouth at 6 RPI
10 Princeton at 7 Union
9 Brown at 8 St. Lawrence

Which home team(s) is the most likely to get upset?

[Trotsky]

QF:

12 Yale at 5 Colgate
11 Dartmouth at 6 RPI
10 Princeton at 7 Union
9 Brown at 8 St. Lawrence

Which home team(s) is the most likely to get upset?

My guess is Princeton over Union.  They mentioned on the Princeton broadcast that they were missing two vital players and expected at leas one if not both back for the playoffs.  Their #1 goalie has also just returned.

I'd be very surprised if we aren't playing Colgate next Friday.