Yale game postponed

Started by dbilmes, January 11, 2022, 10:27:45 AM

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CU2007

Quote from: TrotskyI don't understand the chronology on this at all.

It appears:

1. Yale postpones 11/14 Cornell
2. Brown postpones both 11/14 Colgate and 11/15 Cornell
3. Yale schedules 11/15 Cornell

But something is missing.  Either Yale also postponed its 11/15 Colgate but then changed its mind, or when Colgate learned 11/15 Brown was canceled they said fuck it and pulled out of the whole weekend.  And thus Cornell was able to take the now available 11/15 Yale slot.

None of that really makes sense though.

Does any of this make sense?

upprdeck

its also possible that Yale had some kids out with covid and others just out sick and they were able to field a team now that earlier in the week they were not sure they could.  who knows.

ugarte

when the hell are we going to fit in the brown game? if it's going to be a midweek game i hope it's before union/rpi i guess?

Chris '03

Quote from: ugartewhen the hell are we going to fit in the brown game? if it's going to be a midweek game i hope it's before union/rpi i guess?

It's a mess. And each week it seems more games are getting postponed and squeezed into weeknights. I wonder if the ecac has a contingency for using the first playoff weekend for makeup games (possibly only those needed to determine seeds) and converting the first round to one game playoffs on Tuesday night or something.
"Mark Mazzoleni looks like a guy whose dog just died out there..."

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: Chris '03...and converting the first round to one game playoffs on Tuesday night or something.
That's how it was back in the day.
Al DeFlorio '65

upprdeck

they could just change to win % I suppose to handle teams with odd numbers of games.

you could move one week to thu-fri to open up a tues game suppose.

How many games they really behind..  

They could also play the game at a N site to make travel easier.. Play the Brown game like in Albany or something.

Nothing says Brown couldnt just except a forfeit either

Quin is play fri-sun-tues..  Others can do that.

Trotsky

Blow away the First Round*, only take the top 8, and use the 13 days between the end of the present RS and the beginning of the QF to shake out all the unplayed games.

* Do this anyway.  There is enough churn on the bottom now that we don't have the old problem that somebody never got to play because they always sucked.  And, having done it, we could also add another few games for the ECAC in post-COVID bringing them to parity with the rest of the NC$$.

Weder

Meanwhile, the Cornell women are up to 4 games they need to make up -- 3 ECAC and 1 non-conference game against Syracuse (that was the game that was supposed to be played the day there was a manhunt in Cayuga Heights). Plus, they already have a midweek game scheduled against Penn State in February.
3/8/96

Scersk '97

Quote from: TrotskyBlow away the First Round*, only take the top 8, and use the 13 days between the end of the present RS and the beginning of the QF to shake out all the unplayed games.

* Do this anyway.  There is enough churn on the bottom now that we don't have the old problem that somebody never got to play because they always sucked.  And, having done it, we could also add another few games for the ECAC in post-COVID bringing them to parity with the rest of the NC$$.

This is the clear and correct answer.

Al DeFlorio

Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: TrotskyBlow away the First Round*, only take the top 8, and use the 13 days between the end of the present RS and the beginning of the QF to shake out all the unplayed games.

* Do this anyway.  There is enough churn on the bottom now that we don't have the old problem that somebody never got to play because they always sucked.  And, having done it, we could also add another few games for the ECAC in post-COVID bringing them to parity with the rest of the NC$$.

This is the clear and correct answer.
Also how it was back in the day.
Al DeFlorio '65

BearLover

Quote from: TrotskyBlow away the First Round*, only take the top 8, and use the 13 days between the end of the present RS and the beginning of the QF to shake out all the unplayed games.

* Do this anyway.  There is enough churn on the bottom now that we don't have the old problem that somebody never got to play because they always sucked.  And, having done it, we could also add another few games for the ECAC in post-COVID bringing them to parity with the rest of the NC$$.
This structure would be quite a bit worse for teams like Cornell, which in most years gets to enjoy a bye week as reward for a strong regular season.

Trotsky

Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: TrotskyBlow away the First Round*, only take the top 8, and use the 13 days between the end of the present RS and the beginning of the QF to shake out all the unplayed games.

* Do this anyway.  There is enough churn on the bottom now that we don't have the old problem that somebody never got to play because they always sucked.  And, having done it, we could also add another few games for the ECAC in post-COVID bringing them to parity with the rest of the NC$$.
This structure would be quite a bit worse for teams like Cornell, which in most years gets to enjoy a bye week as reward for a strong regular season.
More than counterbalanced by the fact that the first round ensures a team playing well will play the top four teams.  It's a wash.  And our benefit is no reason not to do the right thing.  Greater Good.

Give My Regards

Quote from: Al DeFlorio
Quote from: Scersk '97
Quote from: TrotskyBlow away the First Round*, only take the top 8, and use the 13 days between the end of the present RS and the beginning of the QF to shake out all the unplayed games.

* Do this anyway.  There is enough churn on the bottom now that we don't have the old problem that somebody never got to play because they always sucked.  And, having done it, we could also add another few games for the ECAC in post-COVID bringing them to parity with the rest of the NC$$.

This is the clear and correct answer.
Also how it was back in the day.

Way back in the day, the entire ECAC tournament took one week.  QF game Tuesday, semi Friday, final Saturday.
If you lead a good life, go to Sunday school and church, and say your prayers every night, when you die, you'll go to LYNAH!

Trotsky

Quote from: Give My RegardsWay back in the day, the entire ECAC tournament took one week.  QF game Tuesday, semi Friday, final Saturday.

1967 post-season:

3/7 ECAC QF
3/9 ECAC SF
3/11 ECAC F
3/16 NCAA SF
3/18 NCAA F

1970 post-season:

3/10 ECAC QF
3/13 ECAC SF
3/14 ECAC F
3/19 NCAA SF
3/21 NCAA F

BearLover

Quote from: Trotsky
Quote from: BearLover
Quote from: TrotskyBlow away the First Round*, only take the top 8, and use the 13 days between the end of the present RS and the beginning of the QF to shake out all the unplayed games.

* Do this anyway.  There is enough churn on the bottom now that we don't have the old problem that somebody never got to play because they always sucked.  And, having done it, we could also add another few games for the ECAC in post-COVID bringing them to parity with the rest of the NC$$.
This structure would be quite a bit worse for teams like Cornell, which in most years gets to enjoy a bye week as reward for a strong regular season.
More than counterbalanced by the fact that the first round ensures a team playing well will play the top four teams.  It's a wash.  And our benefit is no reason not to do the right thing.  Greater Good.
Best 2-of-3 format makes it quite likely the better team advances. In any event, I don't understand why it's better for a top-4 team to ensure they play against one of the 5-8th place teams. The PWR accounts for strength of opponent, so it's a wash. I like the current format's added incentive to finishing in the top 4. Your alternative format adds incentive to finishing in the top 8, but that makes things pretty boring at the top. Also, playoff seeding often comes down to tiebreaks, and it's a lot more acceptable to have a tiebreaker like goal differential decide bye vs. no bye as opposed to deciding season continues vs. season over.